braindeadpj

I think Bad Habits is actually the biggest song by Ed this week (without ACR)!

At a quick estimate I put heatwave at 27 this week without ACR, so not top 10 (though of course that is also excluding the 3-track rule; I guess 17 with it).

Now that's interesting. We know that Billboard doesn't count the D2C sales and so the 9,000+ CD singles of Harry's wouldn't be included. Presumably some of Sam's actual sales were also D2C and so also excluded? No.5 is where Sam is on streaming. Perhaps some of Cat Burns are also D2C and that's why Lizzo has overtaken her? Lizzo is ahead on sales but not overall streams (according to the OCC). Tbh I was expecting Sam to be no.1.... They clearly have a different streaming ratio (and probably freemium ratio too).

Interesting that Billboard have Starlight climbing back up to 2 instead of falling to 5 and Go also being outsold by Baby. Anyone know if this due to a different freemium ratio or the not counting of artist site sales?

Since its the OCC I'd say 'Please Please Me' by the Beatles or 19th Nervous Breakdown by the Rolling Stones, both of which reached no.1 on 2 or more of the charts available in the 60s but not the 'official' one. .

Both are higher here than in the OCC non-ACR chart as can be predicted from the official chart. In the Estimated chart without ACR thread, JulianT predicts 7 (Bad Habits) and 11 (Heatwave), which I essentially agree with. We know that Billboard don't include sales from the artists own website and we don't know the streaming ratios that they are using, so these two factors may explain the differences.

Of course making it official singles only would almost preclude the need for a 3-track rule..... and get things back more to the pre-download era in one sense. However, everything streamed is now double counted ('singles' and albums- up to 16 tracks-, even though they are at different ratio values), which can help make the market look healthy (or not...)

Personally I agree with this completely. While I understand the reasoning behind the restrictions in the Official chart, I still want to see what the chart really looks like. Unfortunately unless you're in the industry, the OCC/BPI or whomever don't allow you to see this or report this in any real capacity and that is what really annoys me. I can see their reasoning behind this too (to stop any confusion about there being more than one chart produced by them), but perhaps they could allow it to be disseminated as the Official Unoffical Chart?

Do you mean no.6 where of course 6 of their albums have been certified gold (as the platinum ones would have been certified gold before they were platinum) or is it one of the other ones? If they added the word only (before been certified gold) then it would be true....

Either OCC made a mistake or the record company may have asked them to go with the 4th best seller instead of the third, perhaps to give some of the other tracks a chance - don't they get another 9 weeks on the chart until ACR even though they would've been on it if they hadn't been starred out?

I think that is what they mean by not including D2C (direct to consumer) sales and that would explain why Joker and Queen only entered at 15 last week (no signed CDs from Ed's official store).

As mentioned several times in this thread, it is dfferent from just the OCC chart without ACR. Billboard/MRC exclude sales from what they deem non-official stores such as artist sites (perhaps because they only sell the artists merch?). It is also unclear what streaming ratio(s) they use.

They are all still on SCR (DCL-2). It'll be the following week that they may not be....

They exclude D2C purchases so that is probably why. Purchases have to be from official stores not fan clubs so it probably excludes the signed CDs.

Yes, I suspect their own versions of the country's charts is probably what they have used to compile the Global and Global (excl USA) charts.

They say that each country has its own customized ratio so probably not 1:100 and 1:600. Billboard does a different ratio for its charts. I forget what it is currently, but 1:1350 rings a bell (though that maybe albums)

After next week most of them will probably be back on ACR.

You forgot to add 2 of the 3 weeks that Last Christmas 'lost' at no.1 while "Merry Christmas" was there officially.

I expect the song was deleted. Deleting a track (no more physical stock and no more downloads) was common in the 2000s. Once deleted (from physical production not digital), a song had 2 weeks in which it could chart before it was removed due to having no physical presence. This 'physical release required' rule was changed in 2007. Crazy by Gnarls Barkley is a good example of this as it was deleted the last week it was no.1 and then had enough stock left in stores and digital sales to be at 2 and 5 the following 2 weeks before being removed the following week. Again such 'records' should be marked with an asterisk as they are due to chart manipulation rather than actual sale patterns.

I'd even suggest having pre-streaming and post-streaming records as the addition of streaming has turned everything on its head.

You forgot "I Don't Care" by Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber dropping off from the top 100 from No.2 due to it going to ACR that week and becoming the 4th best seller (even though it was actually the number 1 - without ACR). It of course returned at no.2 the following week when SCR was reinstated. It is also worth adding that annotation to some of the drop offs to show that they are due to chart manipulation rather than real chart drop offs.