braindeadpj

I agree.

Sorry can't count today!

So it looks like what we know 'sales' wise is approximately: 1 27,000 LadBaby - Food Aid * 2 11,000 Wham! - Last Christmas 3 10,730 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You 4 10,480 Ed Sheeran & Elton John - Merry Christmas 10 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas 12 - 175 from the number 10 The Kunts feat. Terry Edwards - F*ck The Tories * Adjusted totals as I can't count! :wacko:

No streaming data at all so just real sales?

Boo!!!!!!!

It was increased to 16 at the start of 2022. It was 12 prior to this.

I enjoy your thread seeing what the charts really look like without the OCC's shenanigans applied. It would be a shame to wrap it up, but I can understand if you choose to do so as it does not get many comments. It's good to see all the real number 1s rather than the fake official ones (sometimes).

In this instance I think x is a rather large number (but I get your point)! :)

U.K. Songs Week of December 17, 2022 TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 1 1 4 All I Want For Christmas Is You - Mariah Carey ( 1 ) 2 2 4 Last Christmas - Wham! ( 2 ) 3 3 3 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree - Brenda Lee ( 3 ) 4 5 3 It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas - Michael Buble ( 4 ) 5 7 2 Santa Tell Me - Ariana Grande ( 5 ) 6 12 2 Fairytale Of New York - The Pogues Featuring Kirsty MacColl ( 6 ) 7 8 2 Merry Christmas Everyone - Shakin' Stevens ( 7 ) 8 10 2 Jingle Bell Rock - Bobby Helms ( 8 ) 9 14 2 Do They Know It's Christmas? - Band Aid ( 9 ) 10 13 2 Underneath The Tree - Kelly Clarkson ( 10 ) 11 17 2 Driving Home For Christmas - Chris Rea ( 11 ) 12 21 2 It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year - Andy Williams ( 12 ) 13 23 2 Step Into Christmas - Elton John ( 13 ) 14 18 2 Escapism - RAYE Featuring 070 Shake ( 14 ) 15 NEW 1 I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday - Wizzard ( 15 ) 16 25 2 Wonderful Christmastime - Paul McCartney ( 16 ) 17 NEW 1 Merry Christmas - Ed Sheeran & Elton John ( 17 ) 18 NEW 1 Holly Jolly Christmas - Michael Buble ( 18 ) 19 NEW 1 Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! - Dean Martin ( 19 ) 20 16 2 Firebabe - Stormzy ( 16 ) 21 NEW 1 Sleigh Ride - The Ronettes ( 21 ) 22 4 7 Anti-Hero - Taylor Swift ( 1 ) 23 NEW 1 Snowman - Sia ( 23 ) 24 NEW 1 Merry Christmas Everybody - Slade ( 24 ) 25 NEW 1 Happy Xmas (War Is Over) - John & Yoko/The Plastic Ono Band With The Harlem Community Choir ( 25 ) from BrainDamageII post in US Billboard Charts (17/12/2022) at UKMIX

Don't forget its not on ACR, so a little under half as many are listening to this compared to Wham or Mariah

U.K. Songs Week of December 10, 2022 TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 1 5 3 All I Want For Christmas Is You - Mariah Carey ( 1 ) 2 6 3 Last Christmas - Wham! ( 2 ) 3 16 2 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree - Brenda Lee ( 3 ) 4 1 6 Anti-Hero - Taylor Swift ( 1 ) 5 23 2 It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas - Michael Buble ( 5 ) 6 2 10 Unholy - Sam Smith & Kim Petras ( 1 ) 7 NEW 1 Santa Tell Me - Ariana Grande ( 7 ) 8 NEW 1 Merry Christmas Everyone - Shakin' Stevens ( 8 ) 9 3 5 Made You Look - Meghan Trainor ( 3 ) 10 NEW 1 Jingle Bell Rock - Bobby Helms ( 10 ) 11 4 7 Miss You - Oliver Tree & Robin Schulz ( 3 ) 12 NEW 1 Fairytale Of New York - The Pogues Featuring Kirsty MacColl ( 12 ) 13 NEW 1 Underneath The Tree - Kelly Clarkson ( 13 ) 14 NEW 1 Do They Know It's Christmas? - Band Aid ( 14 ) 15 8 6 Messy In Heaven - venbee x Goddard. ( 8 ) 16 NEW 1 Firebabe - Stormzy ( 16 ) 17 NEW 1 Driving Home For Christmas - Chris Rea ( 17 ) 18 NEW 1 Escapism - RAYE Featuring 070 Shake ( 18 ) 19 7 14 I'm Good (Blue) - David Guetta & Bebe Rexha ( 1 ) 20 9 11 Psycho - Anne-Marie x Aitch ( 9 ) 21 NEW 1 It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year - Andy Williams ( 21 ) 22 10 12 Forget Me - Lewis Capaldi ( 3 ) 23 NEW 1 Step Into Christmas - Elton John ( 23 ) 24 13 7 Hide & Seek - Stormzy ( 10 ) 25 NEW 1 Wonderful Christmastime - Paul McCartney ( 25 ) from BrainDamageII post in US Billboard Charts (10/12/2022) at UKMIX

Depends on whether they are released specifically for this christmas or not. For instance I'd have included Merry Christmas last year as it was first released then, but wouldn't count it this year.

So it looks likes the following may be true: Songs to reach every position in the top 10: Officially Last Christmas Without ACR: Someone You Loved Blinding Lights Sales Only: Blinding Lights Bad Habits It may be more frequent in the streaming only chart.....

Yeah, its swings and roundabouts. If a song doesn't complete the top 7 or so in its first 9 weeks it's going to be more difficult to do so once on ACR. Of course Last Christmas would be at 2 not 9 this week without ACR, and may not have reached 4 or 5 if it hadn't been on ACR, but at the same time perhaps it did reach all those positions earlier if it wasn't on ACR... or perhaps another track has done it - we now Blinding Lights and Bad Habits did in the real single sales charts, so perhaps they also did it without ACR? Difficult to know as we don't have access to all the non-ACR data and can only guessestimate the positions if we're not given the exact sales.... Actually looking back Last Christmas was probably no.9 w/e 7/12/17 but I don't think it has ever been 4 or 5 without ACR....

Of course there is the caveat that since 2017, many of the positions are due to suppressed sales (ACR) so that does cheapen the record a little... Of course, The Weeknd - Blinding Lights and Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits have both done it on the 'unmanipulated' sales chart.......

No. Thursday's streams are predicted based on a sophisticated algorithm derived from the pattern of streaming over the previous few days because the streaming companies provide the data too late to include (which is why the midweeks always say data missing.....). It is unclear how different the real data is from the predicted.

Don't forget the streaming ratio is different and sales from D2C are excluded here also. You'd do better looking at JulianT's thread "Estimated Chart without ACR" http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=235185 - though of course that is unofficial while the Billboard one is an "official" chart.....

U.K. Songs Week of December 3, 2022 TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 1 1 5 Anti-Hero - Taylor Swift ( 1 ) 2 2 9 Unholy - Sam Smith & Kim Petras ( 1 ) 3 4 4 Made You Look - Meghan Trainor ( 3 ) 4 3 6 Miss You - Oliver Tree & Robin Schulz ( 3 ) 5 20 2 All I Want For Christmas Is You - Mariah Carey ( 5 ) 6 22 2 Last Christmas - Wham! ( 6 ) 7 5 13 I'm Good (Blue) - David Guetta & Bebe Rexha ( 1 ) 8 8 5 Messy In Heaven - venbee x Goddard. ( 8 ) 9 9 10 Psycho - Anne-Marie x Aitch ( 9 ) 10 7 11 Forget Me - Lewis Capaldi ( 3 ) 11 6 3 Rich Flex - Drake & 21 Savage ( 3 ) 12 11 21 I Ain't Worried - OneRepublic ( 3 ) 13 10 6 Hide & Seek - Stormzy ( 10 ) 14 12 16 B.O.T.A. (Baddest Of Them All) - Eliza Rose & Interplanetary Criminal ( 1 ) 15 NEW 1 Rocket Science - Clavish Featuring D-Block Europe ( 15 ) 16 NEW 1 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree - Brenda Lee ( 16 ) 17 16 33 As It Was - Harry Styles ( 1 ) 18 19 8 Another Love - Tom Odell ( 17 ) 19 21 4 Calm Down - Rema & Selena Gomez ( 19 ) 20 15 18 Bad Habit - Steve Lacy ( 7 ) 21 14 10 Cuff It - Beyonce ( 6 ) 22 17 12 Under The Influence - Chris Brown ( 8 ) 23 NEW 1 It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas - Michael Buble ( 23 ) 24 13 4 Lift Me Up - Rihanna ( 7 ) 25 18 5 Lavender Haze - Taylor Swift ( 3 ) from BrainDamageII post in US Billboard Charts (3/12/2022) at UKMIX

Reality is what it sells period (see no need to fake it or put it in quotes to get it to fit the official line). Officially is what it sells after chart manipulation. The official chart is therefore not reality in any way, shape, or form, as it is chart manipulation (of course chart manipulation may have started from 1952 to some extent but its certainly more rampant since 2017). The official chart will of course be what the record books show, as we all know that history is (re)written by the 'winners'. That still doesn't make it the reality of the situation. As much as I dislike Mariah Carey it will be reality that AIWFCIY will probably get a 7th week at no.1 this week, even if she doesn't officially.

Do you mean officially or in reality as it hasn't reached number 1 in reality yet - it was outsold by both Wham and Mariah last year each week it was 'officially' at no.1?

So Mariah carey is no.1 then as she is on around 19,000 without ACR!

Based on the sales of the no.1 (47,851) and the no.8 (24,312) on the Official 'chart' on Friday, Mariah could already really be no.1 this week (ie without ACR)!!!!!!!

Now 113 is probably no.2 in real sales....

yes, almost its physical and downloads for million seller so real actual individual purchases.

Fairytale of New York features twice in the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas Special so it may get a boost from that so will definitely(?) be top 40 next week.