Ongarboy

I'm not sure though...I'd have thought her debut hit and as yet uncertified VISION OF LOVE would have been the better known song and have accumulated more post 1994 units. I remember when that came out...it was played on radio nonstop and everyone was calling her the next Whitney Houston. Its possibly my favourite Mariah song too so I'm biased! 😊 EMOTIONS is a fun song but I dont recall it then or now being one of her more signature or ubiquitous hits. It didnt even make the top 10 in the UK despite it being the launch song of her highly anticipated second album

The mix with Milkshake by Kelis at clubs is great too! ❤️ 🕺

Its a bit like The Weeknd's The Highlights album. A massively successful album that reached #2 on many occasions and an outstanding 196 weeks in the Top 10 alone (still there as of most recent chart) but could never quite hit #1.

So true. I thought it was my age that I just simply do not tune into the mediums that younger generations use to hear music either passively or proactively hence my lack of familiarity woth current hits. I'm often aware of artists and names of songs from following these forums but never hear or know about the songs outside of here. I'm old enough to remember the original chart runs of Bryan Adams (Every Thing I Do), Whitney Houston (I Will Always Love You) amd Wet Wet Wet (Love Is All Around Me) ...all 10 weeks or more at No.1 and they all started getting a backlash towards the end as everyone (I mean the general public) was SICK of hearing them nonstop. They were simply ubiquitous. Retrospectively they"ve stood the test of time and I dont think most people hate those songs now. I wonder how many of the GP know Drake or Dave or Sam Fender's extended No.1 hits? Even songs that were considered awful or novel (eg Geri Halliwell's entire output) were familiar to the GP even if you wanted to change the dial the instant you heard them. Music consumption and broadcasting was a lot more linear and less fragmented then so.the GP were familiar regardless. I imagine a lot of young people are unfamiliar with Rein Me In amd many other No.1s of the last 5 years yet those of us of a certain vintage remember most top 10 hits from the 80s or 90s even if you weren't a chart follower or hated the songs..they were just more ubiquitous thanks to TOTP and how we generaly were exposed to pop music...different times...

James Masterson noted in his weekly update that Rein Me In has declined in sales from the previous week so 2 more declines and it's on ACR. I think that's the only way it will fall from Number One in the near term. I think it has finally peaked at this stage.

Wow! I don't think I've seen so many New Entry yellow stars for the Album chart before! Reminds me of the Singles chart in the late 90s/early 2000s!! 😂

I've heard it a few times and actually like it. I think it deserves an official top 40 placing. Tones & I has not really being able to capitalise subsequently on her Dance Monkey success and she risks falling into "One Hit Wonder" territory. Also, I'm surprised Bruno Mars hasn't gone further than #5. I thought it would be a guaranteed #1 like in USA where it spent a fortnight at the summit. Saying that, there is nothing very original sounding in it and sounds like just another Bruno Mars song...

Wonder will Take That see a bump now that their documentary has dropped on Netflix. I can't recall Boyzone or Ronan Keating benefitting too much chart wise when their successful documentary aired a while back...

I always thought the difference was due to songs or albums that appeared on the midweek update top 100 but didn't quite achieve enough units to make the final Official charts hence the differential.

Am I the only one here that somehow looks forward to that more than the weekly OCC singles and albums charts? 😃

Yes unfortunately pre Feb 1994 songs suffer this unfair restriction and prevents true like for like comparisons of current vs retro hits from a total units perspective using the crude measurement of BPI certifications. The more certs a song earned pre Feb 1994, the more "start from zero again" units it needs to acquire post 1994 to earn new certifications. An example: Whitney Houston sold approx 1.6 million units pre 1994 and earned double platinum for 1.2 million sales in 1993 for one of the best selling physical singles of all time (I Will Always Love You). Instead of just adding 200k units post 1994 to earn triple platinum, she has to accumulate 1.8 million post 1994 "new" units to achieve triple platinum and which hasn't yet happened. Strangely, this is not an issue for albums as BPI appear to be able to recognise both pre and post 1994 sales for total tally purposes. I wonder why that is the case...?

I think those 2004 dates relate to to when those older songs become available for downloading and hence BPI tracking.

I dont like how on the new BPI site if an artist has collaborated with another artist for a song, you have to search separately or specifically for that duo or collaboration. The old site pulled up everything associated for the artist. Also, it seems to mostly only report the most recent (highest) certification for a song or album rather than every cert awarded like the old site did. I used to enjoy tracking the certification progress of songs or albums that way (ie how long it took to go from silver to gold or gold to platinum etc etc).

She always was the most certified albums artist in the UK. This recent cert only extends her lead further.

Surely anyone who likes this song and is a fan already would have bought the variants already long before Christmas? Do Taylor fans have unlimited amounts of money to enable them to buy variants of the same thing dozens or hundreds of times?

I think Kelly's song sounds more universally Christmassy a la Mariah (hence its more successful endurance)whereas Leona's song sounds like a love song that could be played at any time of the year and just doesn't scream Christmas in my opinion.

Both Alex Jones and James Masterson have commented that we were slightly closer to Christmas Day on the second (and third) last chart week last year so there would have been more Chrismassy consumption accordingly.

I think an issue some have with the annual Christmas invasion is that artists and labels pretty much hold off on releasing any music for the entire last quarter of each year nowadays because just as a song starts gaining traction or momentum in the charts in Oct or Nov, it then gets swallowed by the Christmas rush and has to try harder to regain that momentum again in January after a 6 week hiatus of not being played, streamed or discussed as part of the public consciousness and potential listeners or fans just move onto other more brand new music released in January. It means the non-Christmas popular music calendar has all but shrunk by a quarter. Is that a good thing?

I'm old enough to remember when the Thriller video first debuted in 1983 and being terrified by it as an 8 year old! Was really surprised to learn recently that it only peaked barely in the top 10 at #10 at the time but I realise since that the Thriller album had been out a year at that time so most people would have already owned the song by way of the album which had already sold millions at that stage.

Yes , the Whitney song from 2009. Worth watching her X Factor live performance of the Freemasons Mix version on YouTube. It was a watercooler moment back in the day..but not for the intended reasons... 😛

I think it really was only a big hit primarily in UK and Ireland. I was surprised to see it go from Gold to Platinum so quickly too whereas other more classic and recognisable Whitney hits like "So Emotional " and "Saving All My Love For You" have yet to earn any post 1994 certifications.

Whitney Houston also has Platinum records from the 80s (2) How Will I Know I Wanna Dance With Somebody 90s(5) I Will Always Love You I Have Nothing When You Believe Its Not Right But Its OK My Love Is Your Love 00s (1) Million Dollar Bill 10s(1) Higher Love

Funny how some enormously popular songs are just not on one's radar. Seeing Naive by The Kooks certified 6 times Platinum made me play it just now to hear if I actually recognised it without realising I did but nope. I'm wondering if this is the most BPI certified song I've never heard of before today? Usually, even if I've no interest in a song that is multi platinum certified, I'll still be familiar with it subconsciously as it will be somewhat ubiquitous regardless but I can't say that for this song. Possibly a generational thing as I'm more a 20th century popular music afficionado! P..S. it actually sounds pleasant on first listen! 😊

Huntr/x have declined in consumed units 2 weeks in a row. If they decline this week, they're on ACR!

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