Ongarboy

I suppose I was being a bit tongue in cheek to make a point...but I still think the reset % increase should be way higher...

A 25% uptick seems too loose a benchmark to be eligible for a reset anymore. Every time Liam Gallagher burps or Taylor Swift sneezes, their songs streams seem to increase by more than 25% and come back out of ACR yet again. I think 100% increase (doubling of streams) in a week should be the criteria. I'd imagine this would then only allow truly pop cultural or epic revival moments like the Kate Bush's RUTH for Stranger Things or Dolly Parton's passing to be reflected and mean a more exclusive and rarer set of oldies re-enter the charts in a way that seems appropriate in capturing the nation's mood on a given week. I get that is a subjective stance in itself but what is the alternative....? I get that some chart purists here dont want ACR at all and would be happy for Rein Me In to be Number One for the rest of eternity if thats what the bot driven playlists spit out for ever more as the most passively streamed track week in, week out but that would be the worst of all outcomes in my opinion...

And I can assure you the general public weren'taware of that! But thanks for the clarification! 👍

Actually, it's nice to see Ella's label promoting the song this way. Nothing worse than a song at number one that both the artist and label are indifferent about! It was bad enough having the entire nation being indifferent to a number one for the last 22 weeks in a row! 😜

If I'm ever out and there's a jukebox in the bar, Self Control always gets a play! I love that song!! 😍

I remember Toni Braxton's Unbreak My Heart hitting number one on the older Billboard Dance chart just because a remix was thrown in. I'm trying to visualise how anyone would dance to it other than a slow set dance!

Happened a few times last year also. Makes you wonder if it's a solitary person who knows how to do it and when they're on annual leave, the update just gets postponed until their return...

All of Dolly's songs are in free fall on Spotify's Tuesday figures dropping 20 something places at least. I imagine Wednesday's streams will drop further as I suppose realistically her passing has become last week's news. She may be lucky to only have one top 10 song this week...

I think the ubiquity and proliferation of streaming hadn't reached full impact when those legends passed and even in MJ and Whitney's case, streaming as yet didn't factor into chart position calculations. Kind of similar as to why Christmas songs had yet to dominate the charts back then during December. Streaming the same song 100 times benefits its chart potential. Downloading or purchasing a song once to listen a million times doesn't...

The fact that Spotify does guesswork for Thursday streams, I'm wondering if it is able to factor in major unexpected late surges brought on by such events like a superstar passing? Will its algorithms recognise the huge surge on Wednesday and replicate it for Thursday or will it just average out the daily consumption for the previous 6 days for an artist..hence majorly underestimate Dolly's Thursday streams?

I think back then even though 9 to 5 was a US Number One hit, songs didnt always translate as well in different markets and you had many instances of No. 1s in USA not charting at all in UK and vice versa. Promotion was staggered with release dates of singles up to a year apart in differentcountries or not done at all based on artist availability. Now with streaming, every hit becomes a global hit almost simultaneously depending on how the streaming sites playlist it. 1981 was in the full swing New Romantic era too and country music may have been considered naff or uncool at the time in UK. Also maybe the film it was associated with didnt perform as well over here as in the States(a great movie by the way!). Quite a few legacy songs as we know have done way better in the streaming era than they ever did during original release.

I think people are underestimating how huge Dolly's death and legacy is. It's the lead and dominating news item on every news programme and channel this evening as she was not only a singer but a cultural icon for half a century. This week's chart will only capture slightly over 2 days but I can see next week becoming very evident. Her songs have found a lot of favour in the streaming era, particularly Jolene, 9 to 5 , Islands In The Stream and I Will Always Love You(which she penned). I predict she will be way more impactful than Tina or Ozzy and definitely moreso than Bonnie on next week's charts. It wouldn't surprise me if I Will Always Love You (due to its poignant goodbye lyrics) could be the song that resonates most with the general public and chart highest over the next week. It'll be interesting to see....

Might start seeing songs starting to enter for Dolly Parton on Friday after the sad news this evening... 😢

I think the fact she is breaking all sorts of longevity records in her core market on the US Billboard Hot 100 (just earned her 19th week at the top), that I don't think her label is overly focused on foreign markets. Its performing very well in UK and reaching new peaks with zero promotion so that's good enough for them perhaps ..

Is Sam Smith not considered an A list star any more? Why is their album entry position prediction so low? When I think of all the artists and groups I've never heard of and have such a tiny niche fanbases sailing into #1 with ease on a regular basis, it seems all the more remarkable that Sam hasn't higher numbers...