Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion, October 2021 |
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30th September 2021, 02:19 PM
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This is the streaming services thread for October 2021, the go-to topic for the discussion of playlists and charts from services such as Spotify, Apple & Amazon!
Spotify FAQs What is streaming? What are the chart rules regarding streaming? For streaming and chart rules related FAQs read this thread. How do I see today's Spotify chart? To see the daily top 50 update on desktop, log in to Spotify, click 'Browse', then click 'Charts', then click 'United Kingdom Top 50', or click the link below. The desktop top 50 may update before anything else so is always worth checking if the website is not up to date. However recently it has been known to not to do (even when the website has), so do check all sources. Also note that the Spotify Website will update before external websites (Kworb, LivePopBars). Occasionally there will be a delay in the Spotify chart updating which could even take days. Useful web links: Spotify App [top 50] Spotify Website [top 200] Kworb [top 200 and extra data] LivePopBars [top 200] SponOnTrack [top 200] Hot playlist links: How often does the chart update? It should update once every day, usually in the early afternoon - although this is not 100% guaranteed. Sometimes the top 200 on the website will update but without the top 50 on the app updating, and sometimes there will be no update at all. How many plays on Spotify equals one download sale? 100 plays if you are on Spotify Premium, or 600 if you are using the ad-supported free tier. However you cannot simply play a song that many times in one day to give it one sale, you are limited to 10 plays per day in terms of what counts to the chart. (Spotify will let you play a song on repeat 600 times if you really want to). The number changes to 200 or 1200 plays when a song moves to ACR. For more information on the rules of ACR see this thread. For information on what songs are currently on ACR and what songs will be moving to ACR, refer to this thread. How much does Spotify contribute to the chart? Streaming contributes over 90% to the singles chart as a whole, although the #1 still can be decided by who has better paid-for sales. Spotify counts for a good chunk of streaming sales (although it appears to be losing some market share as Apple Music and Amazon Music gain in popularity), so doing well on Spotify is essential for doing well in the chart. Why is my fave not doing well on Spotify? Is it being promoted on one of Spotify's major curated playlists? If it isn't, it's unlikely to really take off! Hot Hits UK is the biggest of these playlists, with over a million followers. The playlist usually updates itself to include breaking hits once or twice a week, though there is no guarantee that your fave will get a place on the playlist. Also, the UK Top 50 is a largely followed playlist and that songs often experience a 'top 50 effect', when they enter the top 50 and get the additional exposure of being on the playlist. Often sales hits don't cross over to being streaming hits, this is usually the case for songs with an older target audience, reality or campaign songs. Also keep in mind that it often takes longer for a song to take off on Spotify than it would on iTunes. My fave didn't debut high and is falling already, does this mean they're flopping? Not necessarily. Most songs debut relatively low as they aren't instantly well-known, and experience a sharp decline on Day 2 as they no longer have the promoted 'New Music Friday' effect. A lot of songs manage to recover through gaining popularity and additions to playlists. Exceptions to the rule of course come from massively hyped artists/releases such as Justin Bieber/Ed Sheeran/Drake who will of course enter straight at the top. What do the numbers mean? The streaming figures cited in the daily chart are the number of streams each song received the previous day. Unlike the iTunes chart, Spotify is not a rolling chart so the numbers will only change once per day. [FAQs written by Dan] Spotify/streaming discussion thread archive 2021: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep 2020: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2019: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2018: Jan-Mar Mar-May May-Jun Jun-Sep Sep-Oct Nov Dec 2017: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct-Dec 2016: Jan-Jun Jun-Oct Oct-Dec 2015: Jan-Oct Oct-Dec 2014: Jun-Dec |
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30th September 2021, 10:57 PM
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is my brain across your walls?
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Googling 'ed sheeran elton john' brought up some interesting results lol x
(I see an article saying they've recorded something together but I'd be surprised if it showed up on Ed's album, unless it's a case of Elton providing some minor uncredited contribution similar to Kylie on 'Visiting Hours'). |
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30th September 2021, 11:09 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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I thought he'd said in some interview that they had recorded a track together for his album but checking again it seems he said they have recorded together but it will be released "after my album's out".
https://www.bigtop40.com/news/ed-sheeran-elton-john-collab/ So there's no ruling out him featuring on another big hit if that does actually happen. I take it you're referring to Ed's 'birthday gift' to Elton Bre lmao This post has been edited by Dot Branning: 30th September 2021, 11:10 PM |
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1st October 2021, 12:03 AM
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Shakin Stevens
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Maybe itll be a new mix of a song on the album he will release as he tries to push for Xmas number one like Beyoncι on Perfect for the Xmas release in December 2017?
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1st October 2021, 06:15 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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I don't think Ed can fight against the biggest Christmas songs or charity songs (unless he does on himself)
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1st October 2021, 06:16 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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well he did with Perfect
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1st October 2021, 06:29 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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That was 4 years ago, Christmas songs have surged since then and his popularity is not.
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1st October 2021, 06:39 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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His popularity is not? He's been #1 for the last 12 weeks I'm sure he can do it if he releases a new version of a single with a feature or something, perpetual ACR is too much of a weight for Xmas songs...
actually the Xmas songs do well the week after the UK #1 is announced, but don't challenge the UK Xmas #1 either... |
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1st October 2021, 06:42 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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His numbers are smaller than with even the No 6 era though, and BH got at least two weeks because of the remixes. NOT saying he isn't popular (he obviously is) but he is not super dominant if something big is out at the same time.
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1st October 2021, 06:45 AM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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Pretty dead week for new releases
NMF: 1 Headie One - Cry 2 Ashnikko - Panic Attacks in Paradise 3 Years and Years - Crave 4 RAY BLK - Baggage 5 Diplo, Paul Woolford and Kareen Lomax - Promises HH have also added the new Headie One song, and my heart goes (la di da) has been moved up to track #5 now! Elton and Dua now the cover. |
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1st October 2021, 07:43 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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My Heart Goes has been top 5 on HH for a while now
this is really a dead week for new releases, really thought it was cos Adele was coming but alas... This post has been edited by Bjork: 1st October 2021, 07:44 AM |
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1st October 2021, 12:11 PM
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BuzzJack Climber
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His numbers are smaller than with even the No 6 era though, and BH got at least two weeks because of the remixes. NOT saying he isn't popular (he obviously is) but he is not super dominant if something big is out at the same time. Except theyre not. Not in the UK and not worldwide. |
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1st October 2021, 12:16 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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His figures are definitely smaller on Spotify, he's barely doing 400K per day with Shivers
that's as lows as you can go for a #1 |
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1st October 2021, 12:18 PM
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BuzzJack Climber
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1st October 2021, 12:24 PM
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BuzzJack Climber
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His figures are definitely smaller on Spotify, he's barely doing 400K per day with Shivers that's as lows as you can go for a #1 Head & Heart, Mood, Positions, WAP, Rockstar, Toosie Slide etc. etc. also had numbers as low as 400k in certain weeks they were at #1. Just because its Ed doesnt mean he has to do +700k with every song |
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1st October 2021, 12:27 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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of course it's smaller than 6 Projects
I Don't Care opened with 1.16 million even Beautiful People opened with 610K |
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1st October 2021, 12:32 PM
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BuzzJack Climber
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1st October 2021, 07:24 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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Exactly people are trying to compare a 2017 era with a 2021 era which is difficult in these streaming times!
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1st October 2021, 09:37 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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just scrolling through Hot Hits list and realized how majority of big hits are all shorter than 3 mins
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1st October 2021, 09:50 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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