Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion, November 2021 |
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31st October 2021, 10:28 PM
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This is the streaming services thread for November 2021, the go-to topic for the discussion of playlists and charts from services such as Spotify, Apple & Amazon!
Spotify FAQs What is streaming? What are the chart rules regarding streaming? For streaming and chart rules related FAQs read this thread. How do I see today's Spotify chart? To see the daily top 50 update on desktop, log in to Spotify, click 'Browse', then click 'Charts', then click 'United Kingdom Top 50', or click the link below. The desktop top 50 may update before anything else so is always worth checking if the website is not up to date. However recently it has been known to not to do (even when the website has), so do check all sources. Also note that the Spotify Website will update before external websites (Kworb, LivePopBars). Occasionally there will be a delay in the Spotify chart updating which could even take days. Useful web links: Spotify App [top 50] Spotify Website [top 200] Kworb [top 200 and extra data] Hot playlist links: How often does the chart update? It should update once every day, usually in the early afternoon - although this is not 100% guaranteed. Sometimes the top 200 on the website will update but without the top 50 on the app updating, and sometimes there will be no update at all. How many plays on Spotify equals one download sale? 100 plays if you are on Spotify Premium, or 600 if you are using the ad-supported free tier. However you cannot simply play a song that many times in one day to give it one sale, you are limited to 10 plays per day in terms of what counts to the chart. (Spotify will let you play a song on repeat 600 times if you really want to). The number changes to 200 or 1200 plays when a song moves to ACR. For more information on the rules of ACR see this thread. For information on what songs are currently on ACR and what songs will be moving to ACR, refer to this thread. How much does Spotify contribute to the chart? Streaming contributes over 90% to the singles chart as a whole, although the #1 still can be decided by who has better paid-for sales. Spotify counts for a good chunk of streaming sales (although it appears to be losing some market share as Apple Music and Amazon Music gain in popularity), so doing well on Spotify is essential for doing well in the chart. Why is my fave not doing well on Spotify? Is it being promoted on one of Spotify's major curated playlists? If it isn't, it's unlikely to really take off! Hot Hits UK is the biggest of these playlists, with over a million followers. The playlist usually updates itself to include breaking hits once or twice a week, though there is no guarantee that your fave will get a place on the playlist. Also, the UK Top 50 is a largely followed playlist and that songs often experience a 'top 50 effect', when they enter the top 50 and get the additional exposure of being on the playlist. Often sales hits don't cross over to being streaming hits, this is usually the case for songs with an older target audience, reality or campaign songs. Also keep in mind that it often takes longer for a song to take off on Spotify than it would on iTunes. My fave didn't debut high and is falling already, does this mean they're flopping? Not necessarily. Most songs debut relatively low as they aren't instantly well-known, and experience a sharp decline on Day 2 as they no longer have the promoted 'New Music Friday' effect. A lot of songs manage to recover through gaining popularity and additions to playlists. Exceptions to the rule of course come from massively hyped artists/releases such as Justin Bieber/Ed Sheeran/Drake who will of course enter straight at the top. What do the numbers mean? The streaming figures cited in the daily chart are the number of streams each song received the previous day. Unlike the iTunes chart, Spotify is not a rolling chart so the numbers will only change once per day. [FAQs written by Dan] Spotify/streaming discussion thread archive 2021: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct 2020: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2019: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2018: Jan-Mar Mar-May May-Jun Jun-Sep Sep-Oct Nov Dec 2017: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct-Dec 2016: Jan-Jun Jun-Oct Oct-Dec 2015: Jan-Oct Oct-Dec 2014: Jun-Dec |
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31st October 2021, 10:49 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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Pinch and a punch for the first day of the month.
So streaming in November will be all about a certain Ed and a certain Adele. I'm looking forward to the domination! |
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31st October 2021, 10:57 PM
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Time for the return of Mariah & Wham!
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31st October 2021, 11:06 PM
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...among just a handful of others.
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31st October 2021, 11:42 PM
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Looking forward to Tuesdays stats coming in to see where Mariah ends up from the Nov 1st streams, my guess is number 53!
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1st November 2021, 07:34 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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Adele back to #1 on Apple and Amazon
although on Amazon, Moster Mash is #2 and #9 Graffiti down to #31 on Amazon |
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1st November 2021, 07:35 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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Amazon seems so messy
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1st November 2021, 07:53 AM
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One-off Amazon update to get the Halloween songs out of the way before the next weekly one.
Current top 10 (yesterday's positions in brackets); known daily peaks in bold; songs on permanent ACR in italics: (3) 1 Easy On Me (6) 2 Monster Mash [also #9] (1) 3 Cold Heart (5) 4 Time Warp (9) 5 Ghostbusters [also #21 & #78] (8) 6 Somebody's Watching Me (4) 7 Bad Habits [also #87] (2) 8 Shivers [also #20] (11) 9 Monster Mash [also #2] (18) 10 Le Freak Other Halloween-related songs in the top 20: (23) 11 Super Freak (16) 13 Thriller [also #18 & #49] (38) 15 I Knew You Were Trouble (40) 17 You Spin Me Round plus more at #23, #25, #26, #27, #33, #35, #38 & #39 The next 3 highest Ed Sheeran songs: (14) 30 Visiting Hours (13) 31 Overpass Graffiti (20) 57 First Times |
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1st November 2021, 08:38 AM
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1st November 2021, 08:48 AM
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Apple Music Chart Update (31/10)
01 01 Adele - Easy On Me 02 02 Ed Sheeran - Shivers 03 03 Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 04 04 Elton John & Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 05 05 Ed Sheeran - Overpass Graffiti 06 17 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters 07 06 Ed Sheeran - First Times 08 07 The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - STAY 09 08 Ed Sheeran - Tides 10 23 Michael Jackson - Thriller (2003 Edit) 11 27 Bobby "Boris" Pickett & The Crypt-Kickers - Monster Mash 12 09 Becky Hill & Topic - My Heart Goes (La Di Da) 13 24 Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me 14 10 Ed Sheeran - 2step 15 11 Ed Sheeran - The Joker And The Queen 16 12 Ed Sheeran - Collide 17 13 Ed Sheeran - Leave Your Life 18 15 Ed Sheeran - Visiting Hours 19 14 Central Cee - Obsessed With You 20 16 Ed Sheeran - Stop The Rain 21 18 Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 22 19 Ed Sheeran - Love In Slow Motion 23 21 Joel Corry - I Wish (feat. Mabel) 24 22 Drake - Girls Want Girls (feat. Lil Baby) 25 25 Ed Sheeran - Sandman 26 29 D-Block Europe - No Competition 27 20 Joel Corry & Jax Jones - OUT OUT (feat. Charli XCX & Saweetie) 28 46 Vic Mizzy & His Orchestra - The Addams Family Theme (Reprise) 29 33 NEIKED, Mae Muller & Polo G - Better Days 30 30 Coldplay X BTS - My Universe 31 32 Ed Sheeran - Be Right Now 32 31 Glass Animals - Heat Waves 33 28 Doja Cat - Woman 34 56 Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell 35 51 Little Nell, Patricia Quinn & Richard O'Brien - Time Warp 36 68 AC/DC - Highway to Hell 37 26 Jonasu - Black Magic 38 38 Tom Grennan - Don't Break the Heart 39 36 CKay - Love Nwantiti (ah ah ah) [feat. Joeboy & Kuami Eugene] [Remix] 40 34 Lil Nas X & Jack Harlow - INDUSTRY BABY 44 35 Riton & RAYE - I Don't Want You 45 41 Mimi Webb - 24/5 46 42 Dermot Kennedy - Better Days 47 40 Digga D - Red Light Green Light 48 43 THE ANXIETY, WILLOW & Tyler Cole - Meet Me At Our Spot 52 53 Arz - Alone With You 54 44 Diplo, Paul Woolford & Kareen Lomax - Promises 55 45 Clean Bandit & Topic - Drive (feat. Wes Nelson) 56 49 Jesy Nelson - Boyz (feat. Nicki Minaj) 58 54 Drake - Fair Trade (feat. Travis Scott) 60 72 Benson Boone - GHOST TOWN 62 50 David Guetta, MistaJam & John Newman - If You Really Love Me (How Will I Know) 64 58 Drake - Way 2 Sexy (feat. Future & Young Thug) 65 52 Navos & HARLEE - You & I 67 69 Sam Fender - Spit Of You 68 57 Anne-Marie & Little Mix - Kiss My (Uh Oh) 69 64 Meduza - Tell It To My Heart (feat. Hozier) 70 89 SwitchOTR - Coming for You (feat. A1 x J1) 71 71 Griff - One Night 72 74 Justin Bieber - Ghost 73 65 Swedish House Mafia & The Weeknd - Moth To A Flame 78 63 Shouse & David Guetta - Love Tonight (David Guetta Remix Edit) 82 86 Oliver Tree - Life Goes On 83 85 Mεneskin - MAMMAMIA 84 84 Mimi Webb - Halfway 85 83 The Weeknd - Take My Breath 94 76 Ewan McVicar - Tell Me Something Good 96 97 Da Beatfreakz - Money Calling (feat. Russ Millions, RAYE & wewantwraiths) 97 88 Fireboy DML - Peru 98 94 Wes Nelson - Say Nothing 100 98 Sam Fender - Seventeen Going Under 103 96 Abra Cadabra & Unknown T - Double Tap 112 90 Nathan Dawe & T. Matthias - Goodbye 122 123 Sam Fender - Get You Down 125 122 Craig David & MNEK - Who You Are 127 124 Justus Bennetts - Bad Day 134 130 Coldplay X Selena Gomez - Let Somebody Go 135 151 LISA - MONEY 147 140 Lost Frequencies & Calum Scott - Where Are You Now 150 161 M Huncho - Hiatus (Freestyle) 152 158 James Arthur - Emily 158 149 Wizkid - Mood (feat. Buju) 159 136 Acraze - Do It To It (feat. Cherish) 166 117 Jethro Heston & Max Marshall - Cut Me Loose (2021 Edit) 169 183 Russ Millions - 6:30 176 125 Whitney Houston & Clean Bandit - How Will I Know 179 170 Ofenbach & Ella Henderson - Hurricane Halloween 06 17 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters 10 23 Michael Jackson - Thriller (2003 Edit) 11 27 Bobby "Boris" Pickett & The Crypt-Kickers - Monster Mash 13 24 Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me 28 46 Vic Mizzy & His Orchestra - The Addams Family Theme (Reprise) 34 56 Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell 35 51 Little Nell, Patricia Quinn & Richard O'Brien - Time Warp 36 68 AC/DC - Highway to Hell 42 66 The Citizens of Halloween - This Is Halloween 43 55 Rihanna - Disturbia 50 67 Cartoons - Witch Doctor 51 70 Little Mix - Black Magic 53 77 Backstreet Boys - Everybody (Backstreet's Back) [Radio Edit] 76 99 Evanescence - Bring Me to Life 81 103 Shakira - She Wolf 86 101 Billie Eilish - bury a friend 88 108 Michael Jackson - Thriller 93 118 Warren Zevon - Werewolves of London 95 116 twenty one pilots - Heathens 101 145 Alice Cooper - Poison 102 132 Stevie Wonder - Superstition 107 NE Ava Max - Sweet but Psycho 108 135 Duran Duran - Hungry Like the Wolf (2009 Remastered Version) 113 193 Damian - The Time Warp 119 133 Radiohead - Creep 138 176 Iggy Azalea - Black Widow (feat. Rita Ora) 153 180 The Specials - Ghost Town 161 NE Sheb Wooley - The Purple People Eater (Rerecorded) 164 NE Aqua - Halloween 177 NE Ne-Yo - Beautiful Monster 180 NE The Prodigy - Breathe 183 NE Ella Henderson - Ghost 198 NE DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince - A Nightmare on My Street And now it's that time of the year when I get to moan about how many people are streaming Christmas songs way too early. |
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1st November 2021, 09:09 AM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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So she's one again with a big lead over Shivers again... At least noticeable. I wonder how many physical copies he has of those song (that and OG)
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1st November 2021, 09:22 AM
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White rabbit
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1st November 2021, 10:59 AM
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Halloween mania also on Spotify with Thriller at #4!!
Adele on just 500K-ish but it's Sunday... but Graffiti on half of that... 250K... |
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1st November 2021, 11:14 AM
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BuzzJack Regular
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Adele number 1 on Spotify again, and Apple Music, I think she will get another week at 1 OG will deffo drop
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1st November 2021, 11:21 AM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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I think Adele just got hit by Halloween/Halloween parties. I expect she'll gain decently during the rest of the week on streaming services.
I wonder how many, if any, Halloween songs will manage to sneak into the official chart? I assume "Thriller" might be able to? Halloween was on a the best day this year for maximum impact - lots of streams for parties Friday/Saturday and then on the day itself. This post has been edited by Envoirment: 1st November 2021, 11:23 AM |
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1st November 2021, 11:23 AM
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The gap between 'Easy On Me' and 'Shivers' has dropped again today, down to a 57k difference (now small enough that they surely must be more or less even when factoring in the acoustic / remix versions of 'Shivers'). Although that is with both of them decreasing quite a bit of course, proportionally it's basically the same gap as yesterday (actually very slightly larger, Ed dropping from ~89.2% to ~89.0% lol).
Wish I had noted down what the worldwide tallies for the other versions of 'Shivers' were yesterday to have some idea of how fast they are increasing. For future reference here's what they're at now: 2,992,661 Alok Remix 2,593,448 Acoustic Version 1,941,811 Ofenbach Remix 341,151 Navos Remix The Alok remix actually being the most streamed version now despite being the most recent one - I suspect quite a large proportion of those streams may be coming from Brazil though as Alok is Brazilian and that's a pretty huge market for Spotify. Just dividing the totals by the number of days they've been available, they've done on average ~142k, ~83.7k, ~80.9k and ~11.0k per day since release respectively although obviously those are worldwide and they are all likely doing less than that per day now. |
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1st November 2021, 11:33 AM
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#1 Easy On Me 518k; #2 Shivers 461k; #3 Bad Habits 377k
Think it's between those first two for #1 officially and, other versions of Shivers notwithstanding, I would guess Adele will take it, though Ed could still have 3 of the Top 4 with those physicals for Overpass Graffiti, even though it's #7 here and would be #8 behind the combined Love Nwantiti. Ghostbusters at #13 is the next highest after Thriller, though if combining multiple versions Monster Mash would be #9 and Somebody's Watching Me would be #13. |
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1st November 2021, 11:53 AM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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As I say my moneys on Shivers officially. The streaming gap is less than it looks with all versions taken into account and Shivers is doing more than double Easy On Me on iTunes plus a few physicals no doubt (that wont yield high numbers obviously but matters when its close).
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1st November 2021, 12:06 PM
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Ed would probably do anything to make Graffiti a #1, as additional week for Shivers isn't really a big deal all things considered. He craves more #1's, not the by default climbs due to album release.
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1st November 2021, 12:08 PM
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I'm definitely going with Shivers for this week, ahead of Easy On Me on Amazon and very close behind on Spotify, surely very close on Apple as well, plus the significant sales lead it has I think will push it back to #1.
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