Why not try and promote Video Phone if she wants some post-Telephone success - it's got GaGa and it is her most recent single and just makes the most sense?

 

Even a lot of Beyonce & Lady GaGa fans don't like "Video Phone" (me included).

 

I think Beyonce should just stop the current era, and getting working on the next one.

 

Even a lot of Beyonce & Lady GaGa fans don't like "Video Phone" (me included).

 

I think Beyonce should just stop the current era, and getting working on the next one.

I agree with everything in this post. Video Phone is awful (:puke2:)

 

I'm looking forward to the next album ^_^

Unfortunately I think it is. I was watching 4Music last night, and it was one of those "New Track Alert" things on 4Musics Top 20 countdown thing. :(

 

Same on VIVA, as a 'future hit' (:lol:)

 

:cry: I love 'Video Phone'

Morning everyone :) - I'm hoping that someone here can shed some insight on a debate weve been having over on the delirious fan page...

 

currently iTunes has the live version of delirious' single @ the low 20's on the singles chart AND @ number 8 on its album chart.

from my understanding - that seems to indicate that they have somehow split the sales?

 

logic is as follows...

 

either A) they are double counting it on both charts... (and all is fine as the OCC will just ignore the album registration)

 

Or B) there are some gremlins with the listing and its counting sometimes as an album and sometimes (correctly as a single) and all is not fine as the "album" sales will get ignored by the OCC

 

from my limited knowledge of the uk market I don't see it possible that the same number of dloads can land you in both places (you'd need a lot more to get 8 on the album chart than you do to hit 25 on the singles chart??) or am I wrong and is option A the more likely?

 

would apreciate any input people can give me :)

Edited April 2, 201015 yr by seethestar

oh and whilst im here.. heres the latest pop bars @ 1am

 

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7076/barsat1am.jpg

Thanks for the pop bars :) As I understand it, all sales of History Makers are combined, unless people are buying the whole live album. But if they are buying the track individually or a bundle of tracks designated as a single that has History Makers as the lead track (if there is one :lol:), they will count :) Hope that helps!

The explicit and the clean versions both get added to the sales, and if there are more versions, perhaps a live or a radio edit that would get added also.( Same from Plan B and Lady Gaga both of which have two versions on iTunes). What doesn't count us the same person buying the same version two or more times. It's considered by the OCC that there is no good reason to buy the same thing twice although what is possible is to gift a version to another.

On the Xmas 'Rage against the machine' facebook groups that I was involved with, we made good use of buying more then one version and gifting. I seem to recall there was something like four versions in the Amazon Top 5 on the final day.

Thanks for the pop bars :) As I understand it, all sales of History Makers are combined, unless people are buying the whole live album. But if they are buying the track individually or a bundle of tracks designated as a single that has History Makers as the lead track (if there is one :lol:), they will count :) Hope that helps!

Yes correct.

 

Album sales go to the Album chart. Single sales go to the single chart.

from my limited knowledge of the uk market I don't see it possible that the same number of dloads can land you in both places (you'd need a lot more to get 8 on the album chart than you do to hit 25 on the singles chart??) or am I wrong and is option A the more likely?

 

would apreciate any input people can give me :)

 

On the official chart, yes but on the Itunes chart album downloads are still relatively low and I would suspect that the sales of #25 on the Itunes singles chart outweigh the sales of the #8 album

 

On the official chart, yes but on the Itunes chart album downloads are still relatively low and I would suspect that the sales of #25 on the Itunes singles chart outweigh the sales of the #8 album

 

thanks for that info - helps to clear it up a lot... its probably a case of double counting then rather thana nasty mixup. We were just concerned as to how the 1 track single ended up int he album charts.. :) the live album it is taken from isn't even available to buy yet..

Edited April 2, 201015 yr by seethestar

On the Xmas 'Rage against the machine' facebook groups that I was involved with, we made good use of buying more then one version and gifting. I seem to recall there was something like four versions in the Amazon Top 5 on the final day.

 

Good use and bad use. About half of the total sales were said to have been disqualified and I think the plainly ludicrous multiple gifting that went on might well have been part of that. Worst thing about that is we could have more than doubled the money to Shelter with the amount people spent on disqualified single sales!

thanks for that info - helps to clear it up a lot... its probably a case of double counting then rather thana nasty mixup. We were just concerned as to how the 1 track single ended up int he album charts.. :) the live album it is taken from isn't even available to buy yet..

 

It's technically an album purely by virtue of people clicking the buy album button as opposed to the buy song button. It won't count towards the iTunes single chart, it counts towards the iTunes album chart instead rather than as well, but like has already been mentioned, the sales of the itunes album chart are pretty low and in this case they'll all count towards the official chart anyway. Which is what really matters.

Good use and bad use. About half of the total sales were said to have been disqualified and I think the plainly ludicrous multiple gifting that went on might well have been part of that. Worst thing about that is we could have more than doubled the money to Shelter with the amount people spent on disqualified single sales!

 

Just because they were disqualified doesn't mean money didn't go to shelter does it? I've never heard of anyone getting a refund because of a disqualified sale.

Just because they were disqualified doesn't mean money didn't go to shelter does it? I've never heard of anyone getting a refund because of a disqualified sale.

 

Only a very tiny fraction of the money spent on any single sales will have gone to Shelter - *the band* said that they would give *some* of their royalties from the sales to the charity. The label have pledged nothing from it and nor has anyone else.

 

The money people spent on disqualified singles, which was several hundred thousand pounds, could instead have been added directly to the total that was voluntarily given by campaigners at http://justgiving.com/ratm4xmas. It was a brilliant campaign but some of the silly techniques used were stupid wastes of money that only lined the labels' and retailers' pockets.

Good use and bad use. About half of the total sales were said to have been disqualified and I think the plainly ludicrous multiple gifting that went on might well have been part of that. Worst thing about that is we could have more than doubled the money to Shelter with the amount people spent on disqualified single sales!

 

wonder what the actual sales of rage were then?!! :o

SFG still completely trouncing the competition, Plan B has now definately missed his chance, he wouldve caught up by now

 

Delirious? starting to slip, they might get top 5 on the sunday chart depending if there is a Rage-style mass buy

I hope Plan B can stick around the top ten for a while to make up for missing out on #1.

Delirious? to #5

Parachute to #8

Rude Boy to #9

Inna to #10

Ego (ft. Kanye) to #112

Ego to #308

Edited April 2, 201015 yr by MrLovett

Wow!!! :o

 

Looking at those pop bars it looks like Scouting For Girls could well be looking at around 100k first week sales. Who would've thought that'd happen this time last week? :o

 

Plan B has decent enough lead of 'Telephone' at no. 3 so 'She Said' might be looking at 60k (roughly) this week which is still great sales. Those sales would've outsold 'Telephone' over the last fortnight.

 

Makes me think of that other thread - sales vs. chart positions :D

Wow!!! :o

 

Looking at those pop bars it looks like Scouting For Girls could well be looking at around 100k first week sales. Who would've thought that'd happen this time last week? :o

 

Plan B has decent enough lead of 'Telephone' at no. 3 so 'She Said' might be looking at 60k (roughly) this week which is still great sales. Those sales would've outsold 'Telephone' over the last fortnight.

 

Makes me think of that other thread - sales vs. chart positions :D

Actually I wanted to say the opposite. The lead of SFG are decreasing since a day or so, and both Plan B and GaGa are closing and now I don't think they can clear 100k. Only around 80k imo :D