May 1, 201015 yr Getting back to the subject in hand, sorry if I come across as belittling you regarding your support of the LibDems. But unfortunately for them due to the nature of British Politics lack of some sort of Proportional Representation system, all their good ideas get nicked by the other two parties, usually leaving them with either impractical or borderline lunatic policies. I greatly admire Sir Ming Campbell - a very decent man (unfortunately in this media driven celebrity culture X-Factor age he is not so great at simple sound bytes), as I did his two predecessors Charles Kennedy (great to see him on the Politics Show with Michael Portillo & Diane Abbott) & Paddy Ashdown. But I don't like Nick Clegg, as he comes across as someone who should be a car or insurance salesman (fully of great sound bytes, but lacking substance). As I think he makes Tony Blair look like the Dr David Owen in comparison. But his behaviour in the three TV debates seems to have worked a treat on the British public to a depressing effect, proving that the Great British public are gullible. All the more reason to vote Lib Dem to get the voting system changed. The saga of the Lib Dem leadership sums up the state of British politics. A leader of real substance - Ming Campbell - forced out because the media portrayed him as some sort of ancient relic well into his third century. Then a leadership contest between Chris Huhne - a man whose views are closer to my own than Nick Clegg's are but who makes Gordon Brown look like a brilliant and charismatic performer - or Nick Clegg who looks good and performs well on telly. Cameron got the job for similar reasons. He made a good speech to the Tory conference at a time when he was seen as an outsider in the race while the then-favourite David Davis's performance was woeful.
May 1, 201015 yr There's lots of talk about the 'big three' parties but is anyone else considering voting for the minors? I'm looking likely to vote Green myself although it's purely tactical.
May 1, 201015 yr There's lots of talk about the 'big three' parties but is anyone else considering voting for the minors? I'm looking likely to vote Green myself although it's purely tactical. The minor parties running in my area that i know of are: UKIP, Greens and SNP. I'm pro-Europe so thats byebye UKIP, i don't buy into this climate change scaremongering $h!te [it's cheaper and greener to run a small diesel than a Prius] so thats the Greens out, plus they are side with cuntface on the independence issue and lastly, i will never vote SNP. I hate everything they stand for and their leader makes me want to vomit. Disgusting Xenophobic little party
May 1, 201015 yr Polls for the Sunday papers show the Tories are strengthening slightly, at the expense of the Lib Dems. Still, all polls still point to a hung parliament, although one poll suggests the Tories would be just 10 seats off of a majority.
May 1, 201015 yr From BBC's website: Sunday's Polls: ICM survey puts the Tories on 36%, Labour on 29% and the Lib Dems on 27%. YouGov poll puts the Conservatives on 35%, the Liberal Democrats on 28% and Labour 27%. ComRes poll shows the Tories on 38% (up two), Labour on 28% (down one) and the Lib Dems on 25% (also down one). Whilst: Tomorrow's News of the World will carry an opinion poll conducted in 96 Labour-Conservative marginal seats, writes the paper's political editor Ian Kirby in his blog. He says their polling suggests David Cameron is "on course to win 311 seats - a massive gain of 113 from the last election". That means, he continues, that the Conservatives could have a majority of four in the new parliament - with the support of the Unionist parties in Northern Ireland. Whilst other news that will not please Labour supporters: The woman at the centre of the "Bigot-gate" row - Gillian Duffy - has spoken exclusively to the Mail on Sunday, which is devoting its front page and four inside pages to her encounter with Prime Minister Gordon Brown in Rochdale last Wednesday. According to the paper, the thing that upset her the most "wasn't the word bigot. It was the way he called me 'that woman'". But most crushingly of all: Former Lib Dem leader, Paddy Ashdown: "He's just finished a phone conversation: 'Rory (Bremner), you're backing us? That's great!' He's previously come out in support of Labour. A member of the onboard staff has just asked if there's anything she can get Lord Ashdown. 'Are you still heavily involved?', she asks. 'Yes, very much involved. In fact I'm just writing an e-mail to Nick Clegg,' he replies. Presumably to let the leader know the good news of the latest celebrity endorsement for the party." :lol:
May 1, 201015 yr If the NOTW poll has only looked at Lab/Con marginals the result may be misleading. If they have assumed that the Tories will have gained a whole raft of seats from the Lib Dems then their prediction looks like being some way out.
May 1, 201015 yr Actually, not necessarily. The Lib Dems could get SW Surrey off a 5.5% swing - given they're consistently polling at a 7+% swing, that's very doable. :o I have seen a lot of Vote Mike Simpson posters around, but still - Jeremy Hunt got 50.4% in the 2005 election whereas the Lib Dems only polled 39.5%. Poor Labour were left with 7% :lol:.
May 1, 201015 yr :o I have seen a lot of Vote Mike Simpson posters around, but still - Jeremy Hunt got 50.4% in the 2005 election whereas the Lib Dems only polled 39.5%. Poor Labour were left with 7% :lol:. That's the biggest problem for the Lib Dems there. There aren't many Labour voters to persuade to vote Lib Dem to boot the Tory out. It means either persuading Tories to switch or people who didn't vote last time.
May 2, 201015 yr After getting a boost in the Sunday paper polls, the Tories are slipping again in polls for tomorrow... apparently UKIP are gaining at the Tories' expense.
May 2, 201015 yr After getting a boost in the Sunday paper polls, the Tories are slipping again in polls for tomorrow... apparently UKIP are gaining at the Tories' expense. It's all rather curious. Today's polls showed a modest swing towards the Tories but tomorrow's polls suggest that it has been reversed. Yet there's no logical explanation for either move.
May 2, 201015 yr Yougov's blog attributes it to the samples used. Apparently Bank Holiday samples tend to be a bit off? http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2669
May 2, 201015 yr Yougov's blog attributes it to the samples used. Apparently Bank Holiday samples tend to be a bit off? http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2669 Other people on the same site have said they cannot find any evidence that Bank Holiday samples have produced odd results.
May 2, 201015 yr Other people on the same site have said they cannot find any evidence that Bank Holiday samples have produced odd results. tbh I would have no idea why a bank holiday would cause an odd result anyway :P Maybe Cameron came across badly on Andrew Marr? Or he's been attacked convincingly?
May 2, 201015 yr tbh I would have no idea why a bank holiday would cause an odd result anyway :P Maybe Cameron came across badly on Andrew Marr? Or he's been attacked convincingly? I can't think of any logical reason either. That's why I find the results of today's and tomorrow's polls rather odd.
May 2, 201015 yr I think it's just a case of some people switching to the Tories after Cameron's good performance in the last debate, but, now the dust has settled, they've switched back to whoever they were supporting before.
May 2, 201015 yr I still think Labour are being under-stated in the polls by about 2-3%... I just think that, when push comes to shove, some of those people who had been toying with change won't want to risk it and will go for Labour in the booth. I'd hope most of those "Shy Labour" voters came off the Tories' votes, but sadly, I suspect it will be more likely to come off the Lib Dems.
May 3, 201015 yr I still think Labour are being under-stated in the polls by about 2-3%... I just think that, when push comes to shove, some of those people who had been toying with change won't want to risk it and will go for Labour in the booth. I'd hope most of those "Shy Labour" voters came off the Tories' votes, but sadly, I suspect it will be more likely to come off the Lib Dems. exactly, that is usual and is why im not so sure labour will be outed. people dont like the slippery, duplicitous, smarmy boy cameron ... otherwise he would be well ahead in the polls. people dont like brown but may well stick with 'the devil you know', and if they care to cast their minds back .... labour did deliver on alot (but not all) of their 1997 policies.. spending did increae in schools that the tories ran down. every school ive worked in has had massive improvements. plus we have had the longest period of economic stability ever... and even now im paying less for my mortgage then i was 17 years ago under the tories.
May 3, 201015 yr Estimated declaration times are available here http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/20...claration-times Obviously they are very rough estimates and could be some way out, particularly if there are any recounts. Based on past experience it's unlikely that any will be significantly earlier than the estimated times.
May 3, 201015 yr All the Fife seats are expected at 2am. My constituency is gonna have a count like this: "One for Ming, One for someone else, One for Ming, One for someone else...." :heehee:
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