Are you a teacher? I've never said anything about pupils holidays or exams have I? You must be confusing me with nother poster.

 

You implied that students would have to take shorter holidays as well, otherwise what will the teachers be doing with their 8 extra weeks at work?

you fukin moron... they DO NOT get 13 weeks holiday a year... now unless you can post something thats a) accurate and b ) TRUE then go away.

 

you get 52 weeks holiday a year... when YOU get a job then you are entitles to pass opinion, until then go away.

 

 

Okay let's see, 6 in summer, 2 at Christmas, 2 at Easter and 3 half-terms. Now I've no degree in maths but what does that add up to then? :rolleyes: A moderator swearing at a poster. Absolutely disgusting. I'm contacting Admin about my treatment here. I'm happy to debate Rob but you're swearing at me and treating me very unfairly here.

Edited June 10, 201015 yr by Victor Meldrew

You implied that students would have to take shorter holidays as well, otherwise what will the teachers be doing with their 8 extra weeks at work?

 

 

No I didn't. I said they shouldn't be paid for more than 5 or 6 weeks a year, like other workers get.

No I didn't. I said they shouldn't be paid for more than 5 or 6 weeks a year, like other workers get.

 

Right, in that case I misunderstood what you were saying. I don't agree witth your point but at least you weren't saying what I thought you were saying, the other poster who made the big purple list of $h!t has no such excuse.

Everyone else has had a say so in a democracy I will.

 

CUT TEACHERS PAY. They're just a pampered, underworked and overpaid profession. Only pay them for 5 weeks a year holiday instead of the 13 they're currently paid for. Anyone who rounds on me please tell me first which other workers get 13 weeks' paid holiday a year? Even MP's are having their holidays cut. I posted this on Digital Spy and several people agreed with me but said it would need pay cuts spread over the year so they can still make their mortgage repayments in August. Fine by me. If they won't accept this then get them in to paint the schools or clear canals or pick up litter during the summer. 13 weeks' paid leave a year? OUTRAGEOUS. :angry:

 

:lol:

 

You'd have to pay me a lot more than teacher's get paid before I'd even consider taking it up as a profession!

 

Plus, a lot of teacher's work far more than a normal 5 day week. They have marking to do in their own time at home and they end up partaking in lots of out of hours support activities too.

 

 

Okay let's see, 6 in summer, 2 at Christmas, 2 at Easter and 3 half-terms. Now I've no degree in maths but what does that add up to then? :rolleyes: A moderator swearing at a poster. Absolutely disgusting. I'm contacting Admin about my treatment here. I'm happy to debate Rob but you're swearing at me and trating me very unfairly here.

 

theres nothing to debate you arsehole...ive warned you, now ill warn you.

 

they WORK in the times they arnt at school, i know, i work in schools, most of the holidays most teachers are in school preparing lessons, updating work schedules, updating new methods, and if you think for one second they only work 9 - 3.30 then you are a total ignorant moron...

 

they work MUCH LONGER, marking into the night, late evenings, holidays, preparing the next days work.

 

NOW THOSE ARE THE FACTS, THERES NOTHING MORE TO SAY ON THE TEACHERS, POINT OVER YOU LOST now

GO AWAY with you idiotic sun reader mentality hypocritical contradictory nonsense. ill delete anything else you post.

:lol:

 

You'd have to pay me a lot more than teacher's get paid before I'd even consider taking it up as a profession!

 

Plus, a lot of teacher's work far more than a normal 5 day week. They have marking to do in their own time at home and they end up partaking in lots of out of hours support activities too.

I'd agree with that last part, teachers don't have it as easy as some seem to think. Discipline issues, bureaucracy (lesson plans, subject co-ordination), marking, the extra-curricular activities that they take run for the pupils (I remember a Chess club during my first year at high school). I know this, my parents were both teachers and I have a friend who is currently a primary school teacher.

Quite... my father used to be a teacher and he used to be at work by 8 and usually arrived home at about 6. He'd then have marking and lesson plans to do in the evenings and weekend and two nights a week he wouldn't be back until about 8 as he'd be helping run after school activities - plus there's the school trips and productions that ran well into the evenings too, it was a lot of time and effort.

 

 

On a different subject, your quote has made me realise that I used an apostrophe incorrectly. Urgh. :(

Edited June 10, 201015 yr by Dandy*

A friend of mine said to me about my prospects of getting a Council House when I considered putting myself on a waiting list - "you're a single bloke without a kid, you've no chance.....". Surely THAT is discrimination..... -_-

 

..

 

 

Your friend's absolutely correct Scott. Even we as a couple couldn't get one when we first moved down here to London. We put our name on the list but once you privately rent and therefore have somewhere to live, you're not homeless so have no rights to Council accommodation. Single mothers and asylum seekers take priority. It should go on order of registering but it doesn't as those jump to the top of the queue every time. :angry:

Edited June 10, 201015 yr by Victor Meldrew

just to clarify.... the old 'teachers have a cushy job' notion is one that has been posted before by the guy who doesnt work. then it was totally and overwhelmingly shown to be utter nonsense. so i make no apologies for treating crazy chrises reactionary, inflamitory, post with such short shrift.

Your friend's absolutely correct Scott. Even we as a couple couldn't get one when we first moved down here to London. We put our name on the list but once you privately rent and therefore have somewhere to live, you're not homeless so have no rights to Council accommodation. Single mothers and asylum seekers take priority. It should go on order of registering but it doesn't as those jump to the top of the queue every time. :angry:

This is a problem with a lack of housing stock, not with single mothers and asylum seekers - who are the least able in society to afford private housing and therefore SHOULD be the highest priority! This is Thatcher's fault for not investing the gains from the right to buy scheme in new housing stock, and it's shameful that Labour has allowed this to continue...

This is a problem with a lack of housing stock, not with single mothers and asylum seekers - who are the least able in society to afford private housing and therefore SHOULD be the highest priority! This is Thatcher's fault for not investing the gains from the right to buy scheme in new housing stock, and it's shameful that Labour has allowed this to continue...

 

How do you mean they're less able to afford private housing? They'd get all their rent paid by Housing Benefit the same as they do for a Council flat/house!

Edited June 10, 201015 yr by Victor Meldrew

:offtopic:

How do you mean they're less able to afford private housing? They'd get all their rent paid by Housing Benefit the same as they do for a Council flat/house!

I'd like to see ANYONE unemployed try to live in private housing off the pitiful Housing Benefit :mellow: Council housing is subsidised, why do you think people go for it over private housing? :manson:

I'd like to see ANYONE unemployed try to live in private housing off the pitiful Housing Benefit :mellow: Council housing is subsidised, why do you think people go for it over private housing? :manson:

 

 

Apologies Rob but just want to answer this point. Housing Benefit isn't pitiful so no idea why you think that. We used to get all our £150 pw private rent paid by Housing Benefit before my wife started working. So long as you don't have extra bedrooms that you don't need and the rent charged isn't "unreasonable" for the area anyone on the lowest benefit ie Jobseekers gets 100% of their rent paid. You get some deducted for bedrooms you don't need though.

Edited June 10, 201015 yr by Victor Meldrew

Why do so many people fall into the trap of getting het-up from Chris's (Victor's) comments. He's just winding you all up.

 

Norma

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Edited June 10, 201015 yr by Victor Meldrew

Erm how is it bollox? You could say every other spending cut proposal is bolloxs then, like sickness benefit crackdowns, stopping benefits after one child. etc. Why are my proposals any less valid than other posters' in this thread?

 

Because you DO NOT PAY INTO THE SYSTEM - HENCE - WTF SHOULD YOU, OF ALL PEOPLE, HAVE ANY SAY WHATSOEVER IN THE WAY THIS COUNTRY SPENDS MY MONEY? YOU'VE MADE A CAREER OUT OF CLAIMING BENEFITS FOR A SUPPOSED ILLNESS - FOR DECADES.

 

You have NO opinion.

Everyone else has had a say so in a democracy I will.

 

CUT TEACHERS PAY. They're just a pampered, underworked and overpaid profession. Only pay them for 5 weeks a year holiday instead of the 13 they're currently paid for. Anyone who rounds on me please tell me first which other workers get 13 weeks' paid holiday a year? Even MP's are having their holidays cut. I posted this on Digital Spy and several people agreed with me but said it would need pay cuts spread over the year so they can still make their mortgage repayments in August. Fine by me. If they won't accept this then get them in to paint the schools or clear canals or pick up litter during the summer. 13 weeks' paid leave a year? OUTRAGEOUS. :angry:

 

They could only be the words of a lazy workshy sack of $h!t.

 

When you know exactly what the workload of a teacher is then you get to comment that teachers are pampered.

 

I get to work at 8.00 and leave at 5.00 then do at least 2 hours when I get home.

AND then I do at least 4-5 hours on every Sunday, prepping and marking.

 

AND I also work during the holidays prepping and marking.

 

I think lazy fukkers who scrounge off the state should be asked to paint the schools and clear canals.

 

I am quite literally shaking with anger at the moment.

Where to begin?

 

Use volunteers to run school catering and libraries - where do you expect to get all these volunteers from? And how does it make sense to send tens of thousands of people on to the dole queue?

 

This is the BIG Society David Cameron has been eluding to; people will have to take on the responsibility, in their own communities, for the provision of services that the government can no longer afford to fund as it makes its spending prioritizations. This is a once in a generation opportunity to downsize government, to rethink what a government should and should not provide, and enhance society by people sacrificing time to help staff libraries and school kitchens; we’re all in this together. That in essence is the BIG society, an ideology that is very much in mainstream politics today.