But most people don't exactly engage in that as it is - it really only tends to be you, Addy, Rich and Phil, with a couple of others occasionally dipping in. Pre-contest banter is hardly the key thing with countries :lol:

 

I'd see the lack of finding out what others think to be quite a refreshing twist actually. It would certainly encourage more creative entries knowing you're not going to be depending on what a few others think anyway! Certainly I'd say my best entries were the ones I'd have sent no matter what anyone thought of them - La Roux, Camille, Eric Saade, The Sound of Arrows, Erik Hassle etc. My more disappointing ones were the ones where I felt quite unsure with what I would go with and went with something based on how popular I thought it would be - Girlicious, Suzie McNeil, etc.

I'm far proud of the entries i entered after i realised i really didn't care about a good finishing position and that i'd rather introduce someone to something amazing they wouldn't have heard otherwise rather than next weeks/months big hit. For me, Alone, Mitt Liv Ar Mitt, Nevio/Cilmi, Don't Stop Looking etc were better entries than Push The Button, Got No Place To Go etc although i am extremely proud of Colour Me Dirty and rather pleased with I Don't Know.

I'm sort of 50/50 on the anonymity front, the 'unknown pleasures' format did work well - and it could here too, but I think people like to have people evaluate their entries before they decide on them - but maybe that's one of the problems with the current format? As the perceived desire to suceed narrows the musical diversity?

 

Who knows :o

It be funny if 3 countries picked the same artist and same track, if the comp went anonymous, I guess it will be first come first serve, tough $h!t you have to pick another track.

 

I actually like the annoymous format as it makes it more fun trying to guess which country is sending which, it keeps everybody guessing. The only problem with that, if you chart the track in your personal chart, "ooh look that could be FSR Fontvia's entry" as an example.

 

FSR Fontvia? Hang your head in shame -_-

 

:kink:

 

There's another way to do that, give fake titles, Rich originally charted his XXVI winner as Sheila - Dancing Psycho, but in the end I never sent either Darius Gaiden - Can't Eat Can't Sleep (Taito Tikaro - Addicted) or Kris K - Show Me What Ya Got (Crystal Kay - Flash) :lol:

 

Yeah exactly :lol: I had so many people asking me where they could hear the song too because they Googled it and couldn't find it. Was it really any wonder when I gave it a fake name? Same with Lena/Ellie - Not Following, people saying they couldn't find that on a search engine - yeah, because I made the 'duet' myself :lol: I didn't realise people took so much of an interest in the 'unknown' songs in my chart to be honest :heehee:

 

I'd see the lack of finding out what others think to be quite a refreshing twist actually. It would certainly encourage more creative entries knowing you're not going to be depending on what a few others think anyway! Certainly I'd say my best entries were the ones I'd have sent no matter what anyone thought of them - La Roux, Camille, Eric Saade, The Sound of Arrows, Erik Hassle etc. My more disappointing ones were the ones where I felt quite unsure with what I would go with and went with something based on how popular I thought it would be - Girlicious, Suzie McNeil, etc.

 

Definitely agree with this. 90% of my entries were selected by me internally with no opinions from other people whatsoever and I didn't do too badly :lol: I'd rather send something and have the excitement of not knowing who will and won't like it, rather than ask for opinions, which are obviously always going to be mixed and may put you off sending a great pop winner because only indie posters replied in your thread. I have traditionally always PM'd Phil (and often Tom) my choices for his opinions beforehand and vice versa. Why do you think we swap points so much, I've actually ditched a fair few songs if he's panned them and I wasn't sure about them anyway!

 

As long as it's not the last one, because I'm not ending the contest with Shoes. :mellow:

It's not the last one, no way i'm giving up the chance to host :heehee:

WTF is going with Buzzjack Contest. I remember when participating was fun. These days there are too many rules and too many moaners that make the contest less enjoyable. Le sigh.

 

And allow anonymous. I don't get what it would achieve at all?

Buzzjack is boring without BJSC :zzz:

 

Let's go back in time, Tinnmark's 12 (18) points history! :magic:

 

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NINE: Kingdom of Shadow; Margaret Berger - Will You Remember Me Tomorrow? // 1st \/ 187 pts

 

Tinnmark's first 12 went to Kingdom of Shadow's first victory, and first Norwegian winner of BJSC!

 

Tinnmark have given Kingdom of Shadow 23 points in total, while they have given us 21 points in total!

 

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TEN: FSR Farahtyn; Dean Geyer - If You Don't Mean It // 16th \/ 79 pts

 

Tinnmark have given FSR Farahtyn 24 points in total, while they have given us 7 points in total!

 

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ELEVEN: Elëdan; Lenka - The Show // 1st \/ 147 pts

 

Tinnmark's third 12 went to Elëdan's second victory!

 

Tinnmark have given Elëdan 48 points in total, while they have given us only 15 points! What happened to Eledan's good entries in the beginning of BJSC history?

 

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TWELVE: FSR Farahtyn; Una Healy - Sorry // 25th \/ 44 pts

 

Another 12 for them! 12 + 12 = 24 : D

 

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THIRTEEN: FSR Rontvia; The Sounds of Arrows - M.A.G.I.C. // 2nd \/ 169

 

This was actually the first points FSR Rontvia ever recived from Tinnmark, through Tinnmark's BJSC history, FSR Rontvia have recived 37 points from us and we have recived 19 from them!

 

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FOURTEEN: Herzebania; Amanda Jenssen - Amarula Tree // 15th \/ 93 pts

 

Agnes won the contest before and got 10 points from Tinnmark, and in total Tinnmark have given Herzebania 39 points, while they have given us 15 points, lol

 

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FIFTEEN: Land of Jack; Sabrina Salerno - Erase Rewind // 20th \/ 71 pts

 

Land of Jack is the country who have got most points from Tinnmark, and have given Tinnmark most points

 

Tinnmark have recived 101 points in total from LoJ, and have given 113 points in total to LoJ

 

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SIXTEEN: Land of Jack; 3OH!3 - Don't Trust Me // 12th \/ 95 pts

 

12 for LAND OF JACK!

 

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SEVENTEEN: Hendinia; SamSaya - Money // 12th \/ 93 pts

 

I SHOULD HAVE SENT THIS... f***....

 

Tinnmark came 17th...

 

Tinnmark have given Hendinia 61 points in total, while they have given us.... 22....

 

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EIGHTEEN: Xanaga; Ashley Tisdale - How Do You Love Someone? // 15th \/ 87 pts

 

Oh Xanaga, out naighbours in the north!! <3

 

Tinnmark have given and recived 30 points from Xanaga! Isn't that fair? lol cheers!

 

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NINETEEN: Espen - Katzenjammer - A Bar in Amsterdam // 8th \/ 127 pts

 

NORWEGIAN PATROISME!!

 

Anyway, Tinnmark have given Espen 26 points in total and we have recived 10 points from them!

 

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TWENTY: Ashton; Tone Damli Aaberge - Butterflies // 4th \/ 160pts

 

SEE HENDINIA (Seventeen)

 

Tinnmark have given Ashton 35 points in total and recived 60 from them <333 Cheers!!

 

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TWENTYONE: Hendinia; Linda Teodosiu - Reprogram My Heart // 11th \/ 112

 

This is much better result then I got with Love Sux (DNQ) *cry*

 

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TWENTYTWO: Numayania; Mimmi Sandén - Du // 14th \/ 94 pts

 

Tinnmark have given Numayania 41 points and recived 36 points from them! *thanks*

 

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TWENTYTHREE: FNT Nickodonia; Leddra Chappman - Story // 12th \/ 90 pts

 

FNT Nickodonia ftw! We have given them 49 points and recived 65 from them <33333 *thank you*

 

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TWENTYFOUR: Espen; Jena Lee - Je Me Perds // 28th \/ 44 pts

 

Oh my (See nineteen)

 

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TWENTYFIVE: Skall; Lo-Fi-Fnk - Marchin' In' // 2nd \/ 132 pts

 

Yey! We have given Skall 56 points and recived 7.......... LMAO <3

 

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TWENTYSIX: Land of Jack; Jenni Vartiainen - En Haluu Kuolla Tänä Yönä // 13th \/ 159 pts

 

YOUR BEST ENTRY EVER!

 

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TWENTYSEVEN: Skall; Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros - Home // 17th \/ 149 pts

 

YOUR BEST ENTRY EVER

 

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TWENTYEIGHT: Letland; Hej Mathematik - Party i Provinsen // 11th \/ 147 pts

 

Tinnmark have given Letland 18 and recived 8 from them !

 

OH WELL... that was some 12 (18) facts!

NINETEEN: Espen - Katzenjammer - A Bar in Amsterdam // 8th \/ 127 pts

 

NORWEGIAN PATROISME!!

 

Anyway, Tinnmark have given Espen 26 points in total and we have recived 10 points from them!

 

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TWENTYFOUR: Espen; Jena Lee - Je Me Perds // 28th \/ 44 pts

 

Oh my (See nineteen)

 

LOL. Are you sure I've only given you 10 points? :o :lol:

LOL. Are you sure I've only given you 10 points? :o :lol:

Yes :lol: :P

HAS THE BJSC FINISHED OMG

LOL

Oh Cass, what are we going to do with you?!

No green room my ass

Sorry, I wasn't expecting it to be on page 3 :P

 

I think it's nearly time to start disecting this contest, I think on the whole it's been quite succesful, but the forum has been REALLY quiet. I guess the proof of the pudding is in the voting though...

It was halfway down page 1!!!!

Sorry, I wasn't expecting it to be on page 3 :P

 

I think it's nearly time to start disecting this contest, I think on the whole it's been quite succesful, but the forum has been REALLY quiet. I guess the proof of the pudding is in the voting though...

 

I agree. To be honest even if the voting and results all go smoothly and the right song wins etc, the actual result is really a relatively small part of the contest.

 

Having been away for 9 months it makes the difference even more noticeable.

 

We all may disagree on the reason, but the BJ(U)SC jumped the shark when Silly Boy won.

Maybe so, but the whole of BJ was obsessed with Silly Boy for several weeks, whatever else had been entered, it would have won. I don't think it's really the contest's fault... Anyway, if this experiment hasn't/doesn't work, how do we get it back on track?

I think Silly Boy is when people started getting really annoyed with the BJ(U)SC, but I think the moment when people just stopped bothering with it was (no offence to Kath) during the six hour results of XX. After then people pretty much stopped caring. People got a bit excited again after the really unpredictable results in XXIV when Delphic and Tinashe came top two, but then all gains from that were pretty much thrown away when Good Times won the next contest.

 

I don't think we can judge the experiment solely on the basis of this contest. People seem pleased for it to continue, but I think we need to stop kidding ourselves that the contest could ever reach the heights of popularity that it had in 2008/2009 again. Put simply, the contest was a lot more novel then, most of the participants weren't at university at the time (whereas the majority are these days, I think) - something which has affected the website overall, I'd say. We also don't have the monopoly to being one of the website's USPs anymore - too many people lost interest. I think given that we don't really have the level of participation we used to, the new format makes a lot more sense - it's far more casual, focuses a lot more on the music than any hype really - a lot like Unknown Pleasures. Even over there they have days without any posts whatsoever, but they tend to get quite a lot of interest and activity during the results show. One thing I would've changed about this contest would've been the timing of the unveiling of who sent what - I'd have done it during the results as with Unknown Pleasures, as that tends to generate activity on top of the activity you already get with the results from people posting their surprise etc.

 

(For people determined to find cracks where there are none, that was NOT a criticism of Silas, merely a statement of how I would've done it differently had I ran the contest.)

Ah f***, I forgot to send my votes in.. ;(

I think Silly Boy is when people started getting really annoyed with the BJ(U)SC, but I think the moment when people just stopped bothering with it was (no offence to Kath) during the six hour results of XX. After then people pretty much stopped caring. People got a bit excited again after the really unpredictable results in XXIV when Delphic and Tinashe came top two, but then all gains from that were pretty much thrown away when Good Times won the next contest.

 

I don't think we can judge the experiment solely on the basis of this contest. People seem pleased for it to continue, but I think we need to stop kidding ourselves that the contest could ever reach the heights of popularity that it had in 2008/2009 again. Put simply, the contest was a lot more novel then, most of the participants weren't at university at the time (whereas the majority are these days, I think) - something which has affected the website overall, I'd say. We also don't have the monopoly to being one of the website's USPs anymore - too many people lost interest. I think given that we don't really have the level of participation we used to, the new format makes a lot more sense - it's far more casual, focuses a lot more on the music than any hype really - a lot like Unknown Pleasures. Even over there they have days without any posts whatsoever, but they tend to get quite a lot of interest and activity during the results show. One thing I would've changed about this contest would've been the timing of the unveiling of who sent what - I'd have done it during the results as with Unknown Pleasures, as that tends to generate activity on top of the activity you already get with the results from people posting their surprise etc.

 

(For people determined to find cracks where there are none, that was NOT a criticism of Silas, merely a statement of how I would've done it differently had I ran the contest.)

 

 

I'll admit, something in BJSC died a little for me in the early twenties of BJSC. I still enjoy the contest, but probably not to the same extent.

 

I would have loved to see something a little like......and people might not agree with this but...

 

Have it so the fake names stay until we have the final scoreboard.....and then go from last place to first place revealing which country sent what. It might mean you wouldn't be able to cheer on your song but I would mean it would be tense right to the end wondering which of the last two countries left to be revealed sent the winner.