should go for Take The Power Back from RATM if you wanted another one from them ;)

 

surely Bullet In The Head would be better?

No escape from the mass mind rape

Play it again jack and then rewind the tape

And then play it again and again and again

Until ya mind is locked in

Believin' all the lies that they're tellin' ya

Buyin' all the products that they're sellin' ya

They say jump and ya say how high

Don't think this will work TBH, as per the hundreds of campaigns that have been started since last year, with only two or three succeeding. Any No.1 contender has to be a new song without an angle or to avoid being labelled a copycat campaign, and be able to compete with the physical sales of the XF. Very hard to do nowadays with the physical single being virtually dead, but I don't think an old song (Christmassy or otherwise) will work, and Christmas songs seem to have died off since they started entering the charts again.

I'd rather THE Silence was Christmas number one. It'd be the best since Mad World.

can you please learn how to comment statuses on facebook it is getting annoying to look at the page and see your every response, including a copy and paste from the post i have quoted here, just posted on the wall, everyone who is looking at it just thinks you are an ignorant moron who completly misses the point and really needs to find something better to do with their time, which is obviously true.

 

I'm confused, I haven't been on the facebook page - are you mixing me up with someone else?

I'm confused, I haven't been on the facebook page - are you mixing me up with someone else?

 

that might be my mistake then, but someone went on there and put literally, word for word exactly the same thing you put on here, so i guessed it was you and it was not long after you last posted here so it appeared as it was, must of been some random loser who viewed this topic and decided to copy and paste what you had said.

Don't think this will work TBH, as per the hundreds of campaigns that have been started since last year, with only two or three succeeding. Any No.1 contender has to be a new song without an angle or to avoid being labelled a copycat campaign, and be able to compete with the physical sales of the XF. Very hard to do nowadays with the physical single being virtually dead, but I don't think an old song (Christmassy or otherwise) will work, and Christmas songs seem to have died off since they started entering the charts again.

 

I agree with you there, Rage was definatly a one off imo, this sort of thing doesnt work twice, thats why it has to be really unique, which is also why christmas songs wont work, unless this builds up to having as much or more media coverage as the rage campaign has it wont manage it, im surprised there are not more copycat campaigns, that said although i backed the Rage campaign last year, ir wasnt until the final week that i actually thought it might manage it.

If we have to have a song about silence, why can't we have the best one there is? at least we can actually listen to a great song at Xmas.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgbBLKet14E...feature=related

 

If we have to have a song about silence, why can't we have the best one there is? at least we can actually listen to a great song at Xmas.

It may be 45 years old but it's still a great song :wub:

If we have to have a song about silence, why can't we have the best one there is? at least we can actually listen to a great song at Xmas.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgbBLKet14E...feature=related

 

yeah but 4"33 isnt about silence, it IS silence, having a song about silence takes away the point.

yeah but 4"33 isnt about silence, it IS silence, having a song about silence takes away the point.

 

^For anyone wondering about my previous reply......... it only looks like there is no reply text......... its actually 4'33'' of background text :P

IF - this 'campaign' succeeds, it will be 100% pointless.

 

DJ's etc. will not play the 'silent track' on the Radio. Nor will it even be played

if it were at No.1.

 

Instead, the Christmas Chart will stop when the No.2 Hit is played.

The No.1 will be mentioned - but, then 100% ignored.

 

 

It wouldn't be "played" as it would trigger the radio emergency tapes which come in after a certain period of total silence.

It wouldn't be "played" as it would trigger the radio emergency tapes which come in after a certain period of total silence.

Which can be overridden.

 

^For anyone wondering about my previous reply......... it only looks like there is no reply text......... its actually 4'33'' of background text :P

HA.

 

This is ridiculous.

 

What kind of person comes up with such a stupid idea?

Which can be overridden.

 

Radio 3 broadcast a performance of it once and had to override it especially.

 

i cant imagine this would even be played however big the campaign got.

Radio 3 broadcast a performance of it once and had to override it especially.

 

i cant imagine this would even be played however big the campaign got.

Yes I thought Radio 3 had broadcast it once.

 

If it does chart they'll play the shortened radio edit. 4.33 seconds maybe :lol:

One thing seems to be evident from this thread, that people DO still care about what's number one (or at least xmas #1), which I thought was the real victory of last year's campaign! (Admittedly as we've all chosen to be on a chart forum then perhaps that was a given). Think about the numbers though, nearly half a million backed each side, so nearly a million people cared about the outcome (and that doesn't count those that backed an outsider!). OK so I know I'm going off topic with that but I think that's a very heathly market of music fans that aren't really being engaged in the chart as much, ordinarily, as past generations used to be, partly due to more choices of type of medium (Radio, TV, the net etc) and more choices in each medium ( e.g. abt 30 DAB stations vs 2 or 3 decent analogue pop stations in most areas, a few more maybe in London) meanin far more fragmentin of audiences making them much harder to target and also much more music being available to buy. So being one of the few things with any proper audience coverage these days it's not surprisin that X Factor reaches much more of the music buyin market than anyone else and gets big selling singles. To me the X Factor single has unfair advantage and as such it's cool that via fb or a similar site David can take on Goliath so to speak (though in last years battle Goliath also won in that the X Factor single sold rather more than it was originally to based on the previous few years diminishing returns, almost as if Mr Cowell had deliberately stoked the market's proverbial fire a bit). The problem to me is that David can only beat Goliath with a clever choice of weapon, and I'm not sure that this idea is it. As previously mentioned it would get no airplay or promotion due to it's practical problems and people wouldn't necessarily buy a 'track' they could never really play again (whereas I still play the Rage single occasionally even tho I didn't know it till the campaign and it's a lil heavier than most of my taste). In response to the Fairytale of New York idea I don't think many would buy it now as people have been downloading it every xmas since 2003 and most have surely kept the file rather than paying again each year, not to mention the CD being available abt 3 years in a row (HMV old single stand by the third time). Likewise Mariah or most other xmas singles. The Rage campaign was surely boosted by the fact that a lot of people had never heard it before and perhaps didn't know what to expect until they played it after they had downloaded it, probly many wdn't ahve bought it if they'd knwon the lyrics and style beforehand (not that I'm slating it but it's not to a lot of people's tastes).

 

My suggestion for a campaign would be Victoria Wood's Freda and Barry, most people know it but don't own it, it's very funny and a gd song, it wd defo get airplay if the radio people supported the idea and wd probly start gettin listener requests too as more people picked up on it, and I believe there is a version with a new lyric from the last couple of years which cd maybe be chosen. And it wd be cool for Vic to return to the top spot, I say return because technically she shared #1 with the Stonk in 1991, the shared billing being very evident from the record sleeve design split down the middle.

P.S. sorry if this is a bit ramblin.

I think radio's would be reluctant at playing it.

People may interpret it as the station not working, especially if you tune in mid-'song', resulting in change of station / loss of listeners for the radio.

 

One thing seems to be evident from this thread, that people DO still care about what's number one (or at least xmas #1), which I thought was the real victory of last year's campaign! (Admittedly as we've all chosen to be on a chart forum then perhaps that was a given). Think about the numbers though, nearly half a million backed each side, so nearly a million people cared about the outcome (and that doesn't count those that backed an outsider!). OK so I know I'm going off topic with that but I think that's a very heathly market of music fans that aren't really being engaged in the chart as much, ordinarily, as past generations used to be, partly due to more choices of type of medium (Radio, TV, the net etc) and more choices in each medium ( e.g. abt 30 DAB stations vs 2 or 3 decent analogue pop stations in most areas, a few more maybe in London) meanin far more fragmentin of audiences making them much harder to target and also much more music being available to buy. So being one of the few things with any proper audience coverage these days it's not surprisin that X Factor reaches much more of the music buyin market than anyone else and gets big selling singles. To me the X Factor single has unfair advantage and as such it's cool that via fb or a similar site David can take on Goliath so to speak (though in last years battle Goliath also won in that the X Factor single sold rather more than it was originally to based on the previous few years diminishing returns, almost as if Mr Cowell had deliberately stoked the market's proverbial fire a bit). The problem to me is that David can only beat Goliath with a clever choice of weapon, and I'm not sure that this idea is it. As previously mentioned it would get no airplay or promotion due to it's practical problems and people wouldn't necessarily buy a 'track' they could never really play again (whereas I still play the Rage single occasionally even tho I didn't know it till the campaign and it's a lil heavier than most of my taste). In response to the Fairytale of New York idea I don't think many would buy it now as people have been downloading it every xmas since 2003 and most have surely kept the file rather than paying again each year, not to mention the CD being available abt 3 years in a row (HMV old single stand by the third time). Likewise Mariah or most other xmas singles. The Rage campaign was surely boosted by the fact that a lot of people had never heard it before and perhaps didn't know what to expect until they played it after they had downloaded it, probly many wdn't ahve bought it if they'd knwon the lyrics and style beforehand (not that I'm slating it but it's not to a lot of people's tastes).

 

My suggestion for a campaign would be Victoria Wood's Freda and Barry, most people know it but don't own it, it's very funny and a gd song, it wd defo get airplay if the radio people supported the idea and wd probly start gettin listener requests too as more people picked up on it, and I believe there is a version with a new lyric from the last couple of years which cd maybe be chosen. And it wd be cool for Vic to return to the top spot, I say return because technically she shared #1 with the Stonk in 1991, the shared billing being very evident from the record sleeve design split down the middle.

P.S. sorry if this is a bit ramblin.

You're right about the Pogues song. Most fans of the song probably do own it by now. However,if there was a real chance of getting it to number one this year of all years - to fit in with the 10th anniversary of Kirsty's death - I think a lot of people who own it already would download it. I certainly would.