I think metal should get its own genre ouside of rock, not sure how to split dance up.

Is there really any point in putting some of the genres listed here on a CHART forum? Stuff like ambient, classical, country has no footing in the charts at all in this country, so I'd find it hard to believe there are any fans of it here. Maybe very very casual fans of it, at best.

 

Anyway, this is a very ambitious idea, especially since so many genres have taken influences from a variety of different ones, so you're never going to be able to group them perfectly without anyone raising any objections. For example, grime somewhat evolved from garage, which evolved from house music, but then it also takes influences from hip hop. So where would you put it? Is it really notable enough to have its own category?

in case you're planning to include it, Indie isn't actually a genre of music- it means 'independant label' its just now a lot of rock bands seem to be associated with it

Is there really any point in putting some of the genres listed here on a CHART forum? Stuff like ambient, classical, country has no footing in the charts at all in this country, so I'd find it hard to believe there are any fans of it here. Maybe very very casual fans of it, at best.

 

I'm a fan of ambient :P I can't say that much for the other two though - they're the only two genres I do not like at all (although there are times where a bit of Beethoven sounds good :kink:)

I'm a fan of ambient :P I can't say that much for the other two though - they're the only two genres I do not like at all (although there are times where a bit of Beethoven sounds good :kink:)

Really? You mean proper ambient or just stuff that dabbles in it but can be better fitted somewhere else? :P

 

I forgot to target easy listening on my previous post, too - another largely irrelevant genre these days. Most stuff that might get tagged as that now is merely more jazzy or bluesy stuff like Norah Jones, so it doesn't need to be a category at all really.

I like Rap/Hip-Hop, Pop, R&B, Soul, Country and Dance the most ^_^ Am partial to a bit of anything though :)

in case you're planning to include it, Indie isn't actually a genre of music- it means 'independant label' its just now a lot of rock bands seem to be associated with it

 

Well, I could put 'Indie Rock' as one category?

Using that wikipedia list, the "broad" genres are:

 

African Popular Music

Avant-Garde

Country

Jazz

Blues

Easy Listening

Electronic

Hip Hop & Rap

Latin American

Pop

Modern Folk

Ska

Rhythm & Blues

Rock

Other

 

The only ones which are mainstream in today's UK charts are:

 

Electronic

Hip Hop & Rap

Pop

Rhythm & Blues

 

There's also a little bit of Rock and Ska (Ska songs include the likes of Replay by Iyaz, Eenie Meenie by Justin Bieber/Sean Kingston, Hold You by Gyptian?), but I don't know if they're worth including. Maybe rock, because it was so dominant in the charts in the past.

Well, I could put 'Indie Rock' as one category?

 

yeah, but I still think people will just associate it with anything alternative :P

Edited February 8, 201114 yr by chart wizard

Using that wikipedia list, the "broad" genres are:

 

African Popular Music

Avant-Garde

Country

Jazz

Blues

Easy Listening

Electronic

Hip Hop & Rap

Latin American

Pop

Modern Folk

Ska

Rhythm & Blues

Rock

Other

 

The only ones which are mainstream in today's UK charts are:

 

Electronic

Hip Hop & Rap

Pop

Rhythm & Blues

 

There's also a little bit of Rock and Ska (Ska songs include the likes of Replay by Iyaz, Eenie Meenie by Justin Bieber/Sean Kingston, Hold You by Gyptian?), but I don't know if they're worth including. Maybe rock, because it was so dominant in the charts in the past.

 

None of those are ska at all. The first two are pop, simple as. The third is sort of poppish dancehall/reggae.

None of those are ska at all. The first two are pop, simple as. The third is sort of poppish dancehall/reggae.

 

Dancehall and reggae IS ska, isn't it?

 

These are sub-genres of ska, according to wikipedia:

 

Ska2 tone

Dancehall

Dub

Lovers rock

Ragga

Reggae

Reggaefusion

Rocksteady

Ska Punk

 

In the article for Reggae Fusion, it says:

In addition to characterizing fusions of reggae music with other genres, the term is used to describe artists who frequently switch between reggae and other genres, mainly hip hop, such as Kardinal Offishall, Sean Kingston and Heavy D. The term is also used to describe artists who are known to deejay over instrumentals which are neither reggae nor dancehall, such as Elephant Man, Shaggy, Beenie Man, Natasja Saad, Diana King and Delly Ranx.

 

and

 

Also some producers have gained recognition for consistently incorporating reggae fusion into songs they produce, such as J.R. Rotem, who has produced reggae fusion hits such as Beautiful Girls, Me Love, Take You There, Replay, Love Like Woe and Solo.

 

Also, I'm not saying they're not pop songs. Infact, most songs in the chart fit into multiple genres (that's why they're in the chart, since they have broader appeal). Like OMG is a pop song, but also an RnB song.

Electronic isn't a genre, electronica is. Electronica is what people in Europe call dance, and what many people in the US incorrectly call techno (which is just a sub-genre).

Electronic isn't a genre, electronica is. Electronica is what people in Europe call dance, and what many people in the US incorrectly call techno (which is just a sub-genre).

 

I thought that too. I called it electronica in my first few posts in this thread, but then the list on wikipedia says "Electronic", but I just posted it as it was, anyway. :lol:

Dancehall and reggae IS ska, isn't it?

 

Hmm, fair enough they're descended from ska, but I think they're different enough to not be called ska.

Edited February 8, 201114 yr by ★BlindFaithBray★

Perhaps instead of grouping by genres we can group by destination?

 

For example, reggae, ska and dancehall all developed in the Caribbean, so we can call that category "Caribbean-influenced music"

Then other genres developed in more latin countries such as salsa, latin pop, samba :lol: so we can have another category of "Latin-influenced music"

 

Then dance can be split up with trance, techno, house, eurodance etc under the "dance" umbrella, with drum & bass, UK garage, grime, dubstep under their own umbrella as they all basically moved into each other and all originated in the United Kingdom.

 

And then obviously you have the other genres like metal, alternative/indie, pop, R&B, hip hop which don't really need grouping, and are more universal.

Edited February 8, 201114 yr by superbossanova

Hmm, fair enough they're descended from ska, but I think they're different enough to not be called ska.

 

Maybe. I'm not really an expert on those genres to be fair. All I know about them is what I've read from youtube, wikipedia, facebook, etc, which could easily be incorrect, in all honesty. :lol:

I would say it should be split like so:

 

Blues and Jazz

Folk (includes folk rock, indie folk, neofolk)

Dance (includes trance, house, techno, eurodance, rave)

UK-based dance & urban (includes grime, drum and bass, dubstep, UK garage)

Pop music (includes electropop, dance-pop, country-specific pop, J-pop, disco, teen pop)

Adult pop (includes country pop, soft rock, MoR, pop/rock)

Electronic music (includes synthpop, new wave, trip hop, downtempo, ambient)

Latin-influenced music (includes latin pop, samba, salsa, mambo, tango)

Caribbean-influenced music (includes ska, dancehall, reggae)

Alternative & indie (includes alternative rock, britpop, shoegaze, indie rock, lo-fi, neo-psychadelica)

Rock (includes grunge, punk, hard rock, gothic rock, prog-rock, garage-rock)

Metal (includes heavy metal, nu metal, rap metal, symphonic metal, death metal, thrash metal)

R&B and Urban (includes rhythm & blues, soul, funk)

Hip hop (includes West Coast, East Coast, alternative hip hop, country-specific varities, gangsta rap)

Art music (includes classical, opera)

 

I can't think of any more that is really needed, unless I forgot something important :unsure:

Edited February 9, 201114 yr by superbossanova