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I think if Katy Perry really cared that much, she'd release a remix of it or something.

 

The main reason people aren't buying this song is because they find it boring, they already have the album or it's really old. So even promoting one of the dance remixes from the EP (i.e. sending it to radio, making an edit of the music video, or a brand new one, and doing live performances of it) would solve that problem.

 

I don't really mind if she breaks the record though. I don't think her songs are that good (bar E.T. and Firework), but it bothers me more when an artist is overrated in terms of critical acclaim than when they sell a lot. Katy sells a lot, but she doesn't really get praised that much in the press or anything. Infact, it's more the opposite, with people saying she's a bad singer, a $l*t, etc, so her having chart success doesn't annoy me, even if she doesn't really deserve it.

 

Basically, it annoys me more if an artist gets moderate chart success and is overrated by the media and their fans.

 

Also, the year-end top 10 has come out!!!!

 

1. Adele - Rolling in the Deep :wub:

2. LMFAO ft. Goonrock & Lauren Bennett - Party Rock Anthem

3. Katy Perry - Firework :wub:

4. Katy Perry ft. Kanye West - E.T. :wub:

5. Pitbull ft. Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer - Give Me Everything

6. Bruno Mars - Grenade :puke:

7. Cee-Lo Green - Forget You :puke:

8. Nicki Minaj - Super Bass

9. Maroon 5 ft. Christina Aguilera - Moves Like Jagger

10. Black Eyed Peas - Just Can't Get Enough :wub:

 

Not anything too surprising, although I wasn't expecting Super Bass to make the top 10!! :o :o

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Also, the year-end top 10 has come out!!!!

 

1. Adele - Rolling in the Deep :wub:

2. LMFAO ft. Goonrock & Lauren Bennett - Party Rock Anthem

3. Katy Perry - Firework :wub:

4. Katy Perry ft. Kanye West - E.T. :wub:

5. Pitbull ft. Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer - Give Me Everything

6. Bruno Mars - Grenade :puke:

7. Cee-Lo Green - Forget You :puke:

8. Nicki Minaj - Super Bass

9. Maroon 5 ft. Christina Aguilera - Moves Like Jagger

10. Black Eyed Peas - Just Can't Get Enough :wub:

 

The rest of the top 25:

 

11. On The Floor - Jennifer Lopez

12. S&M - Rihanna

13. Pumped Up Kicks - Foster the People

14. Last Friday Night (TGIF) - Katy Perry

15. Just The Way You Are - Bruno Mars (WTF? :o)

16. Tonight (I'm Loving You) - Enrique Iglesias

17. Raise Your Glass - P!nk

18. Born This Way - Lady Gaga

19. f***in' Perfect - P!nk

20. What's My Name? - Rihanna

21. Look At Me Now - Chris Brown

22. Down On Me - Jeremih

23. How To Love - Lil Wayne

24. Someone Like You - Adele

25. Good Life - OneRepublic

 

This doesn't seem right honestly. BTW should be much higher and Firework should definitely not be above ET. I'm also incredibly surprised P!nk got not one, but TWO songs in the top 25, and that Down On Me made it higher than SLY. :wacko:

 

More importantly, what the hell is JTWYA doing at 15?? Is this the first time a song has been in the top 25 two years in a row? It's definitely the first time a song will make it into two DJ Earworm mashups :lol: . Iirc it wasn't even that high on the Year End of 2010, either. Weird.

 

EDIT: It was only #18 on last years, which means it actually went higher! :drama:

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The whole year-end top 100 has come out (no idea why though - it's not the end of the year yet? :wacko:)

 

1 Adele - Rolling In The Deep

2 LMFAO feat. Lauren Bennett and GoonRock - Party Rock Anthem

3 Katy Perry - Firework

4 Katy Perry feat. Kanye West - E.T.

5 Pitbull feat. Ne-Yo, Afrojack and Nayer - Give Me Everything

6 Bruno Mars - Grenade

7 Cee Lo Green - F**k You!

8 Nicki Minaj - Super Bass

9 Maroon 5 feat. Christina Aguilera - Moves Like Jagger

10 The Black Eyed Peas - Just Can't Get Enough

11 Jennifer Lopez feat. Pitbull - On The Floor

12 Rihanna - S&M

13 Foster The People - Pumped Up Kicks

14 Katy Perry - Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)

15 Bruno Mars - Just The Way You Are

16 Enrique Iglesias feat. Ludacris and DJ Frank E - Tonight (I'm F**kin' You)

17 P!nk - Raise Your Glass

18 Lady Gaga - Born This Way

19 P!nk - F**kin' Perfect

20 Rihanna feat. Drake - What's My Name?

21 Chris Brown feat. Lil Wayne and Busta Rhymes - Look At Me Now

22 Jeremih feat. 50 Cent - Down On Me

23 Lil Wayne - How To Love

24 Adele - Someone Like You

25 OneRepublic - Good Life*

26 Bruno Mars - The Lazy Song

27 Britney Spears - Till The World Ends

28 Lupe Fiasco - The Show Goes On

29 Lady Gaga - The Edge Of Glory

30 Ke$ha - We R Who We R

31 Wiz Khalifa - Black And Yellow

32 Hot Chelle Rae - Tonight Tonight*

33 Ke$ha - Blow

34 Bad Meets Evil feat. Bruno Mars - Lighters

35 The Band Perry - If I Die Young*

36 Gym Class Heroes feat. Adam Levine - Stereo Hearts

37 The Black Eyed Peas - The Time (Dirty Bit)

38 Diddy - Dirty Money feat. Skylar Grey - Coming Home

39 Pitbull feat. T-Pain - Hey Baby (Drop It To The Floor)

40 Rihanna - Only Girl (In The World)

41 Lil Wayne feat. Cory Gunz - 6 Foot 7 Foot

42 Lady Antebellum - Just A Kiss

43 Jason Aldean - Dirt Road Anthem*

44 Taio Cruz - Dynamite

45 Waka Flocka Flame feat. Roscoe Dash and Wale - No Hands*

46 Britney Spears - I Wanna Go*

47 DJ Khaled feat. Drake, Rick Ross and Lil Wayne - I'm On One

48 Cobra Starship feat. Sabi - You Make Me Feel...

49 Chris Brown - Yeah 3X

50 Nicki Minaj feat. Drake - Moment 4 Life

51 Dr. Dre feat. Eminem and Skylar Grey - I Need A Doctor

52 Nelly - Just A Dream

53 Kelly Rowland feat. Lil Wayne - Motivation*

54 Edward Maya feat. Vika Jigulina - Stereo Love

55 Christina Perri - Jar Of Hearts

56 Wiz Khalifa - Roll Up

57 LMFAO - Sexy And I Know It

58 Far*East Movement feat. Ryan Tedder - Rocketeer

59 Kanye West feat. Various Artists - All Of The Lights

60 Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me

61 Usher - More

62 Avril Lavigne - What The Hell

63 Tinie Tempah feat. Eric Turner - Written In The Stars

64 Trey Songz feat. Nicki Minaj - Bottoms Up

65 Usher feat. Pitbull - DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love

66 The Script - For The First Time

67 Blake Shelton - Honey Bee*

68 Jason Aldean and Kelly Clarkson - Don't You Wanna Stay*

69 Rihanna feat. Calvin Harris - We Found Love

70 Keri Hilson - Pretty Girl Rock

71 Lady Gaga - Yoü And I

72 Far*East Movement feat. The Cataracs and Dev - Like A G6

73 David Guetta feat. Usher - Without You

74 Taylor Swift - Back To December*

75 Katy Perry - Teenage Dream

76 Eli Young Band - Crazy Girl*

77 Rihanna - Cheers (Drink To That)

78 Selena Gomez & The Scene - Who Says

79 Jake Owen - Barefoot Blue Jean Night*

80 Zac Brown Band feat. Jimmy Buffett - Knee Deep*

81 Luke Bryan - Country Girl (Shake It For Me)*

82 Brad Paisley and Carrie Underwood - Remind Me*

83 Dev - In The Dark

84 New Boyz feat. The Cataracs and Dev - Backseat

85 Drake - Headlines

86 Beyoncé - Best Thing I Never Had

87 Jason Derülo - Don't Wanna Go Home

88 David Guetta feat. Flo Rida and Nicki Minaj - Where Them Girls At

89 Chris Brown - She Ain't You

90 Rodney Atkins - Take A Back Road*

91 Mike Posner - Please Don't Go*

92 Miguel - Sure Thing*

93 Jessie J feat. B.o.B - Price Tag

94 Blake Shelton - God Gave Me You*

95 Lil Wayne feat. Drake - She Will

96 Thompson Square - Are You Gonna Kiss Me Or Not*

97 Neon Trees - Animal

98 Kenny Chesney feat. Grace Potter - You And Tequila*

99 Zac Brown Band - Colder Weather*

100 Big Sean feat. Chris Brown - My Last*

 

37/100 of these aren't UK top 40 hits (italic) and 23 of those 37 didn't even go top 100 in the UK (asterisked). 'My Last' could escape that as it's only now getting promoted. Most of the others are long-dead UK flops, mostly by rappers, or random country people who'd never have UK success.

 

Interesting that Motivation is higher than Best Thing I Never Had.

 

Five of the top 100 are by British acts and one other is by an Irish act. That's not too bad I guess. Tinie at #63 :wub:

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The Billboard year-end charts strongly favour songs released earlier in the year.

 

So songs that were popular at the end of last year, such as Only Girl, What's My Name?, Like a G6, We R Who We R, etc. are likely to do better in the following year-end chart, rather than their current year's. Same applies with this year. We'll probably see We Found Love, Sexy and I Know It and It Will Rain in 2012's year-end top 25.

 

And also, they run from November to November, so Firework should definitely be above E.T., and that further disadvantages the songs at the end of the "year". This is why it's already out, and it comes out early every year. :lol:

 

There's also the fact that it includes airplay, which, unlike sales, can stay quite constant for the entire year, so that favours the earlier released songs even more.

 

So bearing all this in mind, there's honestly nothing that majorly surprised me here. Probably the biggest surprise was Raise Your Glass. I always thought of that as a bit of a "non-#1" by US standards, but I guess not.

 

I think I Gotta Feeling might've got 2 years in the top 25. I'm not sure. I remember it got 2 years in the top 10 in Canada though! :o

 

About Just the Way You Are, I was reading some people's predictions for the year-end chart a couple of weeks ago, and a few people were even putting it in the top 10!!! So people who closely follow the US charts seemed to be expecting it to be high again.

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What's the point in it running from November to November? Then again, none of Billboard's other rules make sense either so it's fitting I guess.
What's the point in it running from November to November? Then again, none of Billboard's other rules make sense either so it's fitting I guess.

 

I think its because the last Billboard issue of every year has always included the year end charts and the only way to do that is to have the cut off the last week of November. I think Soundscan do a proper year end chart (Jan-Dec) that counts all sales as well though.

I also heard Billboard used to have an award show for the winners of each of the year-end charts back in the day (they have dozens of different charts like for different genres and formats, and even weird things like ringtones, etc.), which they used to do in December, so it was necessary to end the chart year in November so they would know the winners in time.
I think its because the last Billboard issue of every year has always included the year end charts and the only way to do that is to have the cut off the last week of November. I think Soundscan do a proper year end chart (Jan-Dec) that counts all sales as well though.

 

 

I also heard Billboard used to have an award show for the winners of each of the year-end charts back in the day (they have dozens of different charts like for different genres and formats, and even weird things like ringtones, etc.), which they used to do in December, so it was necessary to end the chart year in November so they would know the winners in time.

 

Easy way around this is to just do it in January... it makes absolutely no sense to have a 'top 100 songs of the year' which excludes an entire month of the year and includes one from the previous year :wacko:

Easy way around this is to just do it in January... it makes absolutely no sense to have a 'top 100 songs of the year' which excludes an entire month of the year and includes one from the previous year :wacko:

 

They don't do that awards show anymore I think, but I think now it's just a matter of still doing it like to for it to remain consistent with previous years.

 

I agree it's strange. And it can be misleading to people how songs released in the last half of 2010 seem to be doing better than songs released in the last half of 2011 itself. :lol:

 

Looking lower down the list, I'm seeing songs that I think of being "flops" appearing on there. I guess in the US you get lots of songs with peak low but still have enourmous chart runs (like Down On Me or Dog Days Are Over in the UK).

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I think I Gotta Feeling might've got 2 years in the top 25. I'm not sure. I remember it got 2 years in the top 10 in Canada though! :o

 

Nah, I remember reading last years and seeing it around like 27ish, and thinking wow that would've been weird. :wacko:

:up: 8. Someone Like You - ADELE

:up: 14. Set Fire to the Rain - ADELE

:up: 42. Rolling in the Deep - ADELE

 

:cheer: (especially for SFTTR - hopefully it should be top 10 soon then!)

Come on Set Fire To The Rain :D Doing amazingly already, video please? :dance:
93. Robyn - Call Your Girlfriend

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:up: 11. Set Fire to the Rain - ADELE

 

Come on, overtake that 'Red Solo Cup' shite :cheer: Can't believe how well this is doing already, heading for being a third #1 I think!

re: Billboard's year end charts:

 

The few weeks they don't count towards Hot 100 Year End chart doesn't make that much difference because it's based on points. And a song might hit number one in November but still collect most of its points the following year.

 

However, their album chart (based on sales) might differ quite a bit from Soundscan's because sales are higher than in general in December.

:up: 10. Set fire to the rain :D

Give it a month and this song will be #1 I think. It will be top 5 in the the weekly airplay, possibly top 2 for the next few weeks and it probably go top 5 on sales shorty.

I don't think it will go #1, Top 5 is definitely though.

Set Fire To The Rain >>>> The past two singles.

 

Hope it hits #1.

Great to see SFTTR about to hit top 10 :D Hopefully they don't release 'Rumour Has It' there, it would flop. 'Turning Tables' is screaming for a release, it could be a massive T20 hit in the UK and a massive T10 in the US :heart:
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