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ISTM this year has had especially slow turnover, especially in the higher regions of the chart?

 

There used to be a website that had graphs of new entry totals, but I can't remember which it was now?

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The site is polyhex.com

 

The graphs are under the UK/US Charts heading.

 

A few graphs:

 

Average new entries per week per year

 

http://www.polyhex.com/music/singles/avgentries.php

 

New entries per year:

 

at number 1: http://www.polyhex.com/music/singles/newentn1.php

 

in top 10: http://www.polyhex.com/music/singles/newent10.php

 

in top 40: http://www.polyhex.com/music/singles/newenttop40.php

 

Average weeks in chart: http://www.polyhex.com/music/singles/average.php

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So songs spend longer in the top40 now more than EVER before. No wonder I'm bored whenever I listen to the chart show

 

That's a graph for top 75 is it not?

 

And anyhow, of course they do. That's the effect non-limited availability (downloads) has on the charts.

It's strange to see that 1992 had such a low "average weeks in chart" considering it had so few number 1s and that sales were so low. You'd think with so few number 1s there was a very slow turn over in the chart.
It's strange to see that 1992 had such a low "average weeks in chart" considering it had so few number 1s and that sales were so low. You'd think with so few number 1s there was a very slow turn over in the chart.

 

Must have had loads of singles with '71-x' chart runs.

Back then there would have been plenty of 35-x with amount of niche dance singles being released. So many rave singles on indie labels would be snapped up as soon as they were released and supply disappeared so the single would plummet. Then there's the Wedding Present with their 1 weekers also.

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So songs spend longer in the top40 now more than EVER before. No wonder I'm bored whenever I listen to the chart show

 

Surely at least 50% of the is Reggie though... :lol:

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The site is polyhex.com

 

Thanks - that's the one I was thinking of! :)

 

 

It's strange to see that 1992 had such a low "average weeks in chart" considering it had so few number 1s and that sales were so low. You'd think with so few number 1s there was a very slow turn over in the chart.

 

That is strange - I'd have thought, thanks to Bryan Adams, that 1991 would have been worse.

Thanks - that's the one I was thinking of! :)

That is strange - I'd have thought, thanks to Bryan Adams, that 1991 would have been worse.

 

 

One single spending 20 something weeks isn't exactly that unusual. It wouldn't have skewed the figures that much.

It's SO boring. I mean 17 new entries in a week was too many, but 2 or 3 just isn't enough.

 

So many factors affecting this - major labels signing fewer acts, 3rd/4th/5th singles don't sell enough to make the top 40 because don't buy the download single if they have the album/unlimited supplies of big hits-are never deleted...

 

Probably the biggest thing though is that in the olden days of the new release shelves, you could practically make it into the top 40 by virtue of being on the shelf, almost by default. Now people have to actually think to search for your single in the first place, rather than just see it, then buy it on impulse. This explains the "phenonmenon" of singles very quickly rising to the top of the chart once they make it into the top 10 - they're more visible.

 

It would be a great help if iTunes etc improved their front pages to prominently "display" new singles.

It would be a great help if iTunes etc improved their front pages to prominently "display" new singles.

 

That could be a good idea. On the front page, they could have a list of the 10 highest songs released in the past X days, or something like that. Placed alongside the list of the overall top 10 downloads. If we did that for the current new releases, these would be on the front page, and in theory, would get the top 10 effect:

 

1. The Adventures of Rain Dance Maggie - Red Hot Chili Peppers

2. Up All Night - Blink-182

3. Sexy and I Know It - LMFAO

4. Party Rock Anthem (feat. Lauren Bennett & GoonRock) - LMFAO

5. Champagne Showers (feat. Natalia Kills) - LMFAO

6. In the Bubble With a Bullet - Beady Eye

7. Hitz (Single Version) [feat. Tinie Tempah] - Chase & Status

8. Shelter (Photek Remix) - Birdy

9. Hitz (Wretch 32 Remix) - Chase & Status

10. One Day - LMFAO

 

So the Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Blink-182, LMFAO, Beady Eye, Chase & Status, and Birdy would get their new releases promoted, and they would got a boost on iTunes, helping them to chart higher.

 

Blink-182, Red Hot Chilli Peppers and Chase & Status all look like they could just miss out on top 40 this week (or only just scrape in), but that promotion would really help them I think, considering what we've seen the top 10 effect do to some songs before.

That could be a good idea. On the front page, they could have a list of the 10 highest songs released in the past X days, or something like that. Placed alongside the list of the overall top 10 downloads. If we did that for the current new releases, these would be on the front page, and in theory, would get the top 10 effect:

 

1. The Adventures of Rain Dance Maggie - Red Hot Chili Peppers

2. Up All Night - Blink-182

3. Sexy and I Know It - LMFAO

4. Party Rock Anthem (feat. Lauren Bennett & GoonRock) - LMFAO

 

Surely "Party Rock Anthem" has been available for weeks?

 

Yeah, I guess iTunes wouldn't be able to differentiate between new versions of old songs. But sometimes the album version can be quite different to the single version, so it'd be fair enough if that's the case.
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One single spending 20 something weeks isn't exactly that unusual.

 

It ISN'T??

 

Only 3 songs have *ever* been #1 for 15 weeks or more...

It ISN'T??

 

Only 3 songs have *ever* been #1 for 15 weeks or more...

 

he was talking about weeks in the chart, not weeks at number one :P

Is Polyhex.com down? Chose a really bad moment as I'm writing an article about this subject.. Has anyone downloaded their data? If so please PM me. Thanks!

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