July 29, 201114 yr Yep! It wouldn't be as evident on Facebook, but people seem to Tweet ridiculous crap every two seconds so maybe they'll stop for a minute. :P Hopefully this will encourage more awareness towards other attacks or disasters, particularly the East African Famine. Stuff like this goes viral and nobody profits from it, so I'll be taking part! :D I like it! :lol: It's quite an interesting idea, so I'll be taking part from England! ^_^ Has it been getting alot of publicity in Dublin? Or on the internet websites of Dublin :lol:
July 29, 201114 yr I like it! :lol: It's quite an interesting idea, so I'll be taking part from England! ^_^ Has it been getting alot of publicity in Dublin? Or on the internet websites of Dublin :lol: Some newspapers (Irish and Norwegian) have written about it, but most of its popularity has come from Facebook, Twitter, and celebrity endorsement. :)
July 30, 201114 yr Quite an interesting article this I thought from The Star (the CANADIAN one, not ours....LOL) Mallick: What to do when a monster likes your work Heather Mallick, Star Columnist Spare a moment to feel pity for a small but select crowd of people in Canada, the U.S. and Europe. They’re the agitators who woke up last Saturday to find that the Norwegian monster Anders Breivik liked them. As in, he liked their opinions, he quoted them in his so-called manifesto and they — only lurking on the margins of decency before then — are now themselves hated worldwide. This is new in human history. Thanks to the power of the Internet, never before have lives been so easily damaged, if not destroyed. Life online is fast and remorseless. It runs on rage. The online hate that so-called Muslim-haters displayed was instantly turned back on them and their discomfiture must be terrible. One former Ryerson student who was involved in a minor quarrel over Catholic-versus-Muslim prayer rooms was mentioned by Breivik. The poor man is collateral damage. He sounds stunned now. I’m trying to imagine how he will survive a basic Google search done by prospective employers. What’s striking is how much succour the killer drew from the online hate that matched his own. No one is to blame for his finding motivation where he could, but need Canadian opinionators have positively bubbled with malevolence? Do not read Brievik’s footnoted little booky-wook. I read it at 3 a.m. only because I had a severe case of food poisoning and it seemed wrong to waste perfectly good nausea. What better way to pass the time than exploring the damp folds of a psychopathic brain. The clock ticked. It is thick with misogyny, just like the online world itself. Women-hating is so common now that most commentators haven’t noticed that he hated women as much as he hated Muslims, maybe more. Breivik, a mommy’s boy who lived off his mother, had a curlicued sexuality. But so do many hateful people. That’s why I find the case of the unreadable British journalist Melanie Phillips so troubling. She has always been vicious, first on the hard left and now on the hard right. But almost everyone else praised by the killer has said how horrified they were by the slaughter at Utoya. Not Phillips of the Daily Mail. “The supposed beliefs of the Norway massacre’s perpetrator has (sic) got the left in general wetting itself in delirium at this apparently heaven-sent opportunity to take down those who fight for life, liberty and western civilization against those who would destroy it.” Seriously. That was her response. We cry at the news of children who bled to death in the water. She spits. When I study Phillips’ trajectory, I get the same sensation I do about Breivik, that she is reacting to some deeply felt psychic wound. The key is that many years ago, Phillips’ left-wing allies turned against her and she was terribly hurt. She didn’t have the moral fibre to prevent herself deteriorating into a sick caricature. When people are hurt, they lash out. This is the cloud that hovers over the Internet, the rage of damaged people, especially those who comment anonymously and egg each other on. This is why Mark Zuckerberg’s sister, Randi, who helps run Facebook, has called for an end to online anonymity and why Jimmy Wales has set up a rating system to try to take the hate out of Wikipedia. If people could find a way to be kinder online, we perhaps might not have had billions of people whipping each other into a frenzy of hate. The killer shouldn’t have been able to find so many kindred sickened souls. Speaking of which, could I ask people who disagree with me not to openly wish for my death? I am going to die one day. So will they. Shockingly, we are all going to. In the meantime, as the grave draws nearer, could we all please be kinder to each other and try to make the online world less of a stinking swamp and more of a sunlit upland? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melanie Phillips's commentary is probably even more offensive than Morrissey's and Glen Beck's tbh.... I think she probably deserves to be at least as despised as Rebekah Brooks... Perhaps she should quit from her role of spouting bollocks for the Daily Fail..... -_-
July 30, 201114 yr Quite an interesting article this I thought from The Star (the CANADIAN one, not ours....LOL) Mallick: What to do when a monster likes your work Heather Mallick, Star Columnist Spare a moment to feel pity for a small but select crowd of people in Canada, the U.S. and Europe. They’re the agitators who woke up last Saturday to find that the Norwegian monster Anders Breivik liked them. As in, he liked their opinions, he quoted them in his so-called manifesto and they — only lurking on the margins of decency before then — are now themselves hated worldwide. This is new in human history. Thanks to the power of the Internet, never before have lives been so easily damaged, if not destroyed. Life online is fast and remorseless. It runs on rage. The online hate that so-called Muslim-haters displayed was instantly turned back on them and their discomfiture must be terrible. One former Ryerson student who was involved in a minor quarrel over Catholic-versus-Muslim prayer rooms was mentioned by Breivik. The poor man is collateral damage. He sounds stunned now. I’m trying to imagine how he will survive a basic Google search done by prospective employers. What’s striking is how much succour the killer drew from the online hate that matched his own. No one is to blame for his finding motivation where he could, but need Canadian opinionators have positively bubbled with malevolence? Do not read Brievik’s footnoted little booky-wook. I read it at 3 a.m. only because I had a severe case of food poisoning and it seemed wrong to waste perfectly good nausea. What better way to pass the time than exploring the damp folds of a psychopathic brain. The clock ticked. It is thick with misogyny, just like the online world itself. Women-hating is so common now that most commentators haven’t noticed that he hated women as much as he hated Muslims, maybe more. Breivik, a mommy’s boy who lived off his mother, had a curlicued sexuality. But so do many hateful people. That’s why I find the case of the unreadable British journalist Melanie Phillips so troubling. She has always been vicious, first on the hard left and now on the hard right. But almost everyone else praised by the killer has said how horrified they were by the slaughter at Utoya. Not Phillips of the Daily Mail. “The supposed beliefs of the Norway massacre’s perpetrator has (sic) got the left in general wetting itself in delirium at this apparently heaven-sent opportunity to take down those who fight for life, liberty and western civilization against those who would destroy it.” Seriously. That was her response. We cry at the news of children who bled to death in the water. She spits. When I study Phillips’ trajectory, I get the same sensation I do about Breivik, that she is reacting to some deeply felt psychic wound. The key is that many years ago, Phillips’ left-wing allies turned against her and she was terribly hurt. She didn’t have the moral fibre to prevent herself deteriorating into a sick caricature. When people are hurt, they lash out. This is the cloud that hovers over the Internet, the rage of damaged people, especially those who comment anonymously and egg each other on. This is why Mark Zuckerberg’s sister, Randi, who helps run Facebook, has called for an end to online anonymity and why Jimmy Wales has set up a rating system to try to take the hate out of Wikipedia. If people could find a way to be kinder online, we perhaps might not have had billions of people whipping each other into a frenzy of hate. The killer shouldn’t have been able to find so many kindred sickened souls. Speaking of which, could I ask people who disagree with me not to openly wish for my death? I am going to die one day. So will they. Shockingly, we are all going to. In the meantime, as the grave draws nearer, could we all please be kinder to each other and try to make the online world less of a stinking swamp and more of a sunlit upland? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melanie Phillips's commentary is probably even more offensive than Morrissey's and Glen Beck's tbh.... I think she probably deserves to be at least as despised as Rebekah Brooks... Perhaps she should quit from her role of spouting bollocks for the Daily Fail..... -_- I haven't seen what Glen Beck said but to me that's far worse than what Moz said. If she's not hung out to dry like the woman who ranted about Stephen Gately (what was her name?) there's something slightly off about the general public in this country.
July 30, 201114 yr I haven't seen what Glen Beck said but to me that's far worse than what Moz said. If she's not hung out to dry like the woman who ranted about Stephen Gately (what was her name?) there's something slightly off about the general public in this country. Beck likened the Norwegian camp to the Hitler youth. And the evil bitch who wrote the Gately article was Jan Moir.
July 30, 201114 yr Arbeiderpartiet (Labour) have jumped 10% in opinion polls (back up to 35%), and 94% of the public say that Jens Stoltenberg has dealt with the situation "well" or "extremely well". 80% gave Stoltenberg the highest rating possible. The Red-Green coalition has been slipping ever since they were re-elected back in 2009, many questioning whether Labour were strong enough to lead. I think it's safe to say that recent events have certainly shown Norwegians that Jens Stoltenberg is an excellent leader, and he's dealt with this in an excellent way. Fremskrittspartiet (Progress) have lost a lot of support due to Brevik's "brief" association with them. Progress supporters are now going to Høyre (Conservative). It seems this has eliminated a lot of the whole "immigration is bad" sentiment among the Right. Progress have always been backwards. Populist, ultra-conservative, rich people. :kink:
August 1, 201114 yr http://rt.com/news/estonia-nazis-veteran-extremism/ (click on link to see clip) This actually made me almost choke on my Corn Flakes this morning when I saw it reported on Russia Today.... It's allowing shit like this that probably emboldens people like Breivik to act..... Nazism is condemned worldwide, but there are still pockets of support in some areas of Europe. Over the weekend, Estonian veterans of the Nazi SS rallied on the anniversary of a battle with the Red Army. The Estonian town of Sinimae was the scene of a fierce World War II battle between Soviet soldiers and SS forces in 1944. And less than a mile up the road from the monument that commemorates the Soviet soldiers who died there, a gathering of veterans of the Estonian Waffen SS is taking place – an event that has attracted widespread criticism for glorifying Nazism. “I was the leader of the Association of the Former Soldiers of the Waffen SS. I was voluntary. It’s something that you don’t think about at the time; later you think about the fact you shot people. But that’s the war. That’s the war,” Anton Powelli, a former SS fighter, told RT. In Anton's home country – and most of Europe – celebrations of this kind are banned. “We cannot do in Belgium what we can do here,” Anton added. But in Estonia it is a different story altogether. “It's common in Estonia to call these people freedom fighters. We hold our protest rallies on the same day they hold this event to remind them what they are – that they had given allegiance to Hitler, to tell them they had never liberated Estonia, moreover, many of them were engaged in – and all of them are more or less accomplices of – the crimes committed by Nazi Germany,” said Maxim Reva from “World Without Nazis”. In recent years, the Estonian authorities have made it increasingly difficult for anyone to come to Sinimai to protest against the Nazi gathering. This year, once again, members of the anti-fascist movement were detained at the border, and pulled over by the police. “I was stopped and I was told that I have an entry prohibition to the country. But of course they don’t want any other opinion other than their own opinion, which is very much supporting the SS veterans,” said Johan Beckman, a Finnish anti-fascist activist. The revival of the far-right across Europe has caused growing concern. Ultra-right parties are gaining ground in countries like Austria, Finland and France. The savage slaughter by far-right extremist Anders Breivik in Norway has driven home just how dangerous these views remain. Disgusting...... :angry:
August 1, 201114 yr Finland is quite different in that the True Finns are right-wing on social issues, but are very very left-wing on fiscal issues. They're considered more centre-left, which is slightly scary. Thankfully, there is enough opposition to ultra-right that they may never get into power. Finland's current coalition is made up of seven parties in a move to prevent the True Finns from having enough power in opposition. France won't elect a National Front president. It almost happened in 2002, but the Socialists made sure their supporters voted for Chirac so that Le Pen wouldn't be elected. It's the Eastern countries that you have to look out for. They're progressing, but there is still a lot of ultra-right fanatics.
August 1, 201114 yr Finland is quite different in that the True Finns are right-wing on social issues, but are very very left-wing on fiscal issues. They're considered more centre-left, which is slightly scary. Thankfully, there is enough opposition to ultra-right that they may never get into power. Finland's current coalition is made up of seven parties in a move to prevent the True Finns from having enough power in opposition. France won't elect a National Front president. It almost happened in 2002, but the Socialists made sure their supporters voted for Chirac so that Le Pen wouldn't be elected. It's the Eastern countries that you have to look out for. They're progressing, but there is still a lot of ultra-right fanatics. As Anders Breivik proves though, all it takes is one nutter to be influenced by these "parties"..... The True Finns are kind of weird... I'd probably agree with them on the fiscal side (especially if they want to go after the banks and the rich), but the social is just as important, if not more so....
August 3, 201114 yr http://talkaboutequality.wordpress.com/201...-really-happen/ Wow, this is kind of interesting... So, who actually saw/heard of this being reported anywhere....? If a Married Lesbian Couple Saves 40 Teens from the Norway Massacre and No One Writes About it, Did it Really Happen? By this point, most of you have heard about the tragedy in Norway a few weeks ago when a Christian Fundamentalist* murdered 77** people and injured another 96. The story has been well-covered by International media and the mainstream press here in the US. What you probably have not heard about is the married lesbian couple who rescued 40 teenagers during and after the bloody event. Several blogs and gay and lesbian publications are now picking up the story, but the heavy hitters who usually kill for hero stories like this, have remained silent. The Finnish capital city’s largest daily newspaper, Helsingin Sanomat, published this account (translated from Finnish): Hege Dalen and her spouse, Toril Hansen were near Utöyan having dinner on the opposite shore across from the ill-fated campsite, when they began to hear gunfire and screaming on the island. “We were eating. Then shooting and then the awful screaming. We saw how the young people ran in panic into the lake,” says Dale to HS in an interview. The couple immediately took action and pushed the boat into Lake Tyrifjorden. Dalen and Hansen drove the boat to the island, picked up from the water victims in shock in, the young and wounded, and transported them to the opposite shore to the mainland. Between runs they saw that the bullets had hit the right side of the boat. Since there were so many and not all fit at once aboard, they returned to the island four times. They were able to rescue 40 young people from the clutches of the killer. “We did not sleep last night at all. Today, we have been together and talked about the events,” Dalen said. Please share this story and make sure people know the heroism of Hege and Toril. Check out our follow-up to this post here: Hege & Toril: Why We Write, which addresses many of your comments and questions about this article. *The term “Christian Fundamentalist” has been disputed greatly in both the press and the comments section below this post. According to Norwegian police investigating the massacre, Anders Behrin Breivik was a “Christian Fundamentalist” as described by the New York Times and several Norwegian sources. There is a great post from CNN, which discusses at length, the use of the term being used for Breivik. **Thank you to readers who have provided credible sources as to the actual number of deaths from this tragedy. We originally reported that 92 had been killed, but according to Norwegian sources, the total number is at 77, with many still in the hospital. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As the article says, the mainstream press usually LOVES "hero stories" like this, so why so silent do you suppose....? Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the couple are LESBIANS could it....?? As for this supposed dispute over whether to call Breivik a "Christian Fundamentalist", are you f**king kidding me..??? Surely there IS not debate here, surely Breivik IS a Christian fanatic... After all, the mainstream press weren't exactly shy about flinging the term "Islamic Fundamentalist" around on July 7th 2005 were they....? So, it's only "muslims" that are fanatics, eh....? Not nice, fluffly, cuddly Christians.... So, the choice is simple - if Anders Breivik is not a "true" Christian, then these Al Qaeda-types are not "true" Muslims, let's quit ascribing these terms to both and call them what they are - murderers and fascists.....
August 3, 201114 yr There were a lot of people who did the same thing and there hasn't been much written about any of the rescuers so I don't think this couple are being singled out.
August 3, 201114 yr I did see this on another site, but from the same article. It's very brave what they did, and they rescued 40 people, which is wonderful. The fact that they are lesbians shouldn't factor in at all. All the rescuers should really be commended. I've heard the term Christian Fundamentalist flung about quite a bit. Was Breivik doing it for his religion though? From what I remember his actions were for political reasons.
August 3, 201114 yr I did see this on another site, but from the same article. It's very brave what they did, and they rescued 40 people, which is wonderful. The fact that they are lesbians shouldn't factor in at all. All the rescuers should really be commended. Agreed. I don't know what honours are available in Norway but all the volunteers who used their boats to try and rescue people deserve some sort of honour. There were stories of some boats (possibly including the one in the story above) which were overloaded so the children on board had to spend their time bailing out water.
August 3, 201114 yr I've heard the term Christian Fundamentalist flung about quite a bit. Was Breivik doing it for his religion though? From what I remember his actions were for political reasons. You could say the same thing about Bin Laden and his ilk though... But, what is it that stuck most...? The term "muslim fundamentalist".... So, I think it's only fair and proper that Breivik be branded a "Christian Fanatic", unless of course the the mainstream media wants to print a retraction over falsely associating Al Qaeda with Islam and ordinary Muslims....
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