Posted August 20, 201113 yr It seems likely we'll have two different songs high in the chart mentioning the same artist this Sunday - I wonder if this has ever happened before? Edited August 21, 201113 yr by vidcapper
August 20, 201113 yr 'Swagger Jagger' isn't about Mick Jagger, it's a poorly spelled version of 'swagger jacker'. It's just coincidental that both Ke$ha and The Black Eyed Peas before her had rhymed 'swagger' with 'Jagger' referring to Mick. :P Anyway, it's not quite the same thing, but Michael Jackson's 'Man In The Mirror' and 'Billie Jean' went top 10 in 2009 when Keri Hilson/Kanye West/Ne-Yo - Knock You Down was there, featuring the lyric 'this is bad, real bad, Michael Jackson'. Edited August 20, 201113 yr by Bré
August 20, 201113 yr Aqua's "Doctor Jones" and Savage Garden's "Truly Madly Deeply" were both about actor Harrison Ford. Edited August 20, 201113 yr by Mr. Belding
August 20, 201113 yr Eminem says in "The Real Slim Shady" - 'Why? So you guys could just lie to get me here? So you can, sit me here next to Britney Spears?' On w/e 26/08/2000 that song was number 10 and Britney Spears "Lucky" debuted at number 5.
August 20, 201113 yr Author To clarify - I meant direct references in the song *title*, not merely the lyrics.
August 20, 201113 yr To clarify - I meant direct references in the song *title*, not merely the lyrics. Regardless, the point is mute because Cher Lloyd's song isn't referencing Mick Jagger, whilst Moves Like Jagger is.
August 20, 201113 yr It does not matter that 'Swagger Jagger' is not name-checking Mick Jagger directly. It is still Mick Jagger's surname. So, there will be 2 Singles in the Chart that mention Mick Jagger's second name. That is an indisputable fact. A coincidence does not have to mean that 2 exact things happen - at the same time - that are rare. A coincidence can mean that 2 unrelated things LOOK similar, & are also rare. Which is what we get with this 'Jagger' matter.....A rare coincidence.
August 20, 201113 yr It does not matter that 'Swagger Jagger' is not name-checking Mick Jagger directly. It is still Mick Jagger's surname. So, there will be 2 Singles in the Chart that mention Mick Jagger's second name. That is an indisputable fact. A coincidence does not have to mean that 2 exact things happen - at the same time - that are rare. A coincidence can mean that 2 unrelated things LOOK similar, & are also rare. Which is what we get with this 'Jagger' matter.....A rare coincidence. No, there are 2 singles in the chart with the word 'Jagger' in the title - only one of those is mentioning Mick Jagger's surname, the other is the word 'jacker' purposely misspelled. It may be spelled the same but it's a different word with a different meaning. Edited August 20, 201113 yr by Bré
August 21, 201113 yr What the hell is a jacker? :lol: BOTH say Jagger do they not? So both have the same word (coincidentally Mick JAGGER's surname) contained in the title. Some people here will nitpick at ANYTHING. Even when their theory is irrelevant. :lol:
August 21, 201113 yr Author Regardless, the point is mute[ I think you mean moot. :lol: because Cher Lloyd's song isn't referencing Mick Jagger, whilst Moves Like Jagger is. *We* know that, now - but a few years down the line, anyone looking back at this chart won't.
August 21, 201113 yr It depends on intention. If Swagger Jagger is word play on Swagger Jacker and intends to name check Mick Jagger then the OP's point stands. If not, then Bré is correct, on a technicality. I do however appreciate the co-incidence. A slight change the OP's wording will mean that Bré's technicality becomes null and void. All Vidcapper has to do is use the word "mention" instead of "name-checking".
August 21, 201113 yr Author A slight change the OP's wording will mean that Bré's technicality becomes null and void. All Vidcapper has to do is use the word "mention" instead of "name-checking". Done. :)
August 21, 201113 yr What the hell is a jacker? :lol: BOTH say Jagger do they not? So both have the same word (coincidentally Mick JAGGER's surname) contained in the title. Some people here will nitpick at ANYTHING. Even when their theory is irrelevant. :lol: A 'jacker' on its own isn't anything, it's 'swagger jacker' that has a meaning (someone who steals or 'jacks' someone else's 'swagger' - horrible phrase) It depends on intention. If Swagger Jagger is word play on Swagger Jacker and intends to name check Mick Jagger then the OP's point stands. If not, then Bré is correct, on a technicality. I do however appreciate the co-incidence. A slight change the OP's wording will mean that Bré's technicality becomes null and void. All Vidcapper has to do is use the word "mention" instead of "name-checking". It possible that it's a reference to Mick Jagger but there's no other indication of it having anything to do with him, I think she just changed the spelling to make it rhyme. It is odd/coincidental that there are two songs with the word 'Jagger' in their title simultaneously in the top 15, as that's not exactly a common word. It's just wrong to say they're both references to Mick because only one of them is.
August 21, 201113 yr Author It is odd/coincidental that there are two songs with the word 'Jagger' in their title simultaneously in the top 15, as that's not exactly a common word. It's just wrong to say they're both references to Mick because only one of them is. Except that only a few thousand people familiar with street lingo will know that, though...
August 21, 201113 yr Except that only a few thousand people familiar with street lingo will know that, though... Incorrect. If you listen to the song and still believe that Jagger is some sort of association to Mick, then you clearly haven't listened to the song properly. "Swagger Jagger, you should get some of your own" CLEARLY implies that she means 'jacker' but for some reason has made the baffling decision to spell it and pronounce it incorrectly. And I'm no "street lingo" connoisseur. (Is it EVEN street lingo, or just something Cher's made up?) As for this "record" I agree with the original poster that regardless of WHY the word is in the title, it IS - and to have it in two songs in the upper echelons of the chart is rare.
August 21, 201113 yr (Is it EVEN street lingo, or just something Cher's made up?) It isn't a phrase Cher made up :P http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?...=swagger%20jack (ignore the second definition :lol:) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?...wagger%20jacker http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?...agger%20jacking
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