In school a while ago we where talking about it, and if it should be brought back into england.

 

So what are your views?

I think it should.

Nope

 

Far too many miscarriages of justice happen to bring it back

 

I am utterly opposed to the death penalty for that reason

Mine:

 

Im 50/50 about it. I think it's horrible and cruel, but then again, if half of the prisons in england all full of people who are in jail for life, then there just taking up space.

In years to come, new prisons will need to be built because others are running out of space. So really, what is the point in keeping people who have been jailed for life in a prison?

 

And sick and twisted prisoners (so many i cant name) should just be killed, some of the stuff people do are sickening and they shouldnt have a life

How is it horrible and cruel if they are murderers themselves?

I wouldn't agree with it if the person hadn't killed anyone though...

 

For instance, take the Jeremy Bamber case, he killed 5 people in the 80's think it was, including two small children and only got 25 years, 5 years per person he killed.

Surely he didn't deserve to live?

Mine:

 

Im 50/50 about it. I think it's horrible and cruel, but then again, if half of the prisons in england all full of people who are in jail for life, then there just taking up space.

In years to come, new prisons will need to be built because others are running out of space. So really, what is the point in keeping people who have been jailed for life in a prison?

 

And sick and twisted prisoners (so many i cant name) should just be killed, some of the stuff people do are sickening and they shouldnt have a life

 

What do the following have in common ?

 

The Birmingham 6

The Guildford 4

Sian Jenkins (jailed for battering his daughter with a tent spike)

Raphael Rowe (jailed for the M25 murders)

Eddie Browning (jailed for murdering a pregnant woman)

 

Those are just a few off the top of my head

 

The thing they all have in common is that it turned out years later that they were INNOCENT, what good is it if they are dead ?? you can't bring them back to their families, you can't compensate them from beyond the grave, every year there are convicted murderers released after it turned out they didn't do it

 

There would be far more space in jails if people were not sent to jail for not paying council tax, tv licence, VAT and so on and other crimes that don't justify jail sentences, I would be happy to pay a bit more tax to have lots of new prisons built

Craig I agree with that, but what's your opinion on people that DID murder?

Craig I agree with that, but what's your opinion on people that DID murder?

 

I can see where you are coming from but at the time of their trials of the ones I listed it was assumed that they did murder, we have new evidence in the Barry George case, the guy jailed for killing Jill Dando that has come to light and he looks like being the next murderer to be released so until there is a foolproof way of ensuring that someone is guilty beyond any doubt I prefer to err on the side of caution

 

There are so many cases in this country of corrupt cops, of confessions extracted under physical or psychological torture and so on that put me off the death penalty

 

And anyways with regards the likes of Huntley and so on I would rather they spent their entire life in jail forever looking over their shoulder and fearing attack from other prisoners and warders, look at Myra Hindley, her last 3 or 4 years she was riddled with emphesemya and of brittle bone disease, she went through 4 years of living hell and really really suffered, with the death penalty she would have suffered for 10 secs max I preferred her suffering for years

Edited August 1, 200619 yr by Ozzy Osbourne

No, studied this at school and while I was orginally of the option that the death penalty should be brought back. MY mind was changed when I realised the statistics show that at time of having the death penalty crime goes up.

When it's removed crime goes done.

 

I later came to the conclusion that real thing is the value put on life by society, As you devalue life, more think it's okay to kill/murder. When you allow state authorised death penalty you are then devaluing life, hence the effect seen in the crime figures.

No, who made the courts back then God? If we killed murderers then that makes us as bad as them.

What do the following have in common ?

 

The Birmingham 6

The Guildford 4

Sian Jenkins (jailed for battering his daughter with a tent spike)

Raphael Rowe (jailed for the M25 murders)

Eddie Browning (jailed for murdering a pregnant woman)

 

Those are just a few off the top of my head

 

The thing they all have in common is that it turned out years later that they were INNOCENT, what good is it if they are dead ?? you can't bring them back to their families, you can't compensate them from beyond the grave, every year there are convicted murderers released after it turned out they didn't do it

 

There would be far more space in jails if people were not sent to jail for not paying council tax, tv licence, VAT and so on and other crimes that don't justify jail sentences, I would be happy to pay a bit more tax to have lots of new prisons built

I agree, unless the person has admitted it, imo there will never be concrete evidence that someone has done something. That is why there shouldn't be a death penalty. The thought of being jailed for something you didn't do is sickening and doesn't bear thinking about, the thought of being killed for something you didn't do is worse. -_-

I'm against the death penalty. One of the reasons being the Myra Hindley/Ian Brady case. Brady apparently wants to die and has been on hunger strike for seven years surely keeping him alive is a far worse punishment in that case.

 

As for Myra Hindely, if she was put to death then she would never have been able to reveal where some of the victims bodies were buried in 1987.

 

I think though that if you're found guilty of murder (barring been subsequently found to be not guilty) then I do think life should mean life. I also think that prison should be much tougher than it's reported to be at the moment.

 

I think though that if you're found guilty of murder (barring been subsequently found to be not guilty) then I do think life should mean life. I also think that prison should be much tougher than it's reported to be at the moment.

 

Yes that I agree

 

Some murderers get out after 8 years :rolleyes: and the average "life" sentence served is 12 <_<

I didn't see the film myself, but I remember Timothy Spall doing interviews about a film called Pierrepoint about excutioner Albert Pierrepoint, who had to actually carry out hangings for people who had been given the death penalty, and apparently he was very traumatised about what he had had to do later on in life.

 

Naaaawzz. It's a wee bit harsh!

 

Haha that's one of the most poorly constructed opinions/arguments ever but-hey.

Against the Death Penalty for all the reasons that Ozzy stated. There is no 'fool-proof' way of ensuring that a person is 100% guilty without a doubt, especially when you're talking about murder cases which have been sensationalised in the media...

Against the Death Penalty for all the reasons that Ozzy stated. There is no 'fool-proof' way of ensuring that a person is 100% guilty without a doubt, especially when you're talking about murder cases which have been sensationalised in the media...

 

 

agreed.

 

life in prison is the only option. taking anyones life for whatever reason is wrong.

i'm against it

if a murderer or rapist or whoever serves death penalty then how are they suffering for their crime

 

if they stayed in pris then they are suffering.......altho life should mean life and they shouldnt be able get out after 8 years or something

The only real fool proof way of knowing someone is a murderer without any shred of doubt, is if he is being watched by about 100 witnesses and CCTV and he admits it.

The only real fool proof way of knowing someone is a murderer without any shred of doubt, is if he is being watched by about 100 witnesses and CCTV and he admits it.

 

what about finger prints/blood stains etc?