September 16, 201113 yr Susan's first two albums combined sold more than Adele's first two in the US..... They have at the moment but Adele will overtake them. Plus Adele has 2 #1 hits on the Billboard Hot 100. It's ridiculous to claim Susan Boyle was bigger in the USA than Adele is. Besides, SuBo's albums didn't sell based on the music, they sold based on hype and as Christmas gifts (specifically the second one which was actually CALLED 'The Gift').
September 16, 201113 yr Albums sales, Single sales, Tours, Merchandise, Endorsments. The Spice Girls were a phenonenom never seen since The Beatles and prob will never be seen again. You can not compare Adele to them based on one big selling album One thing is for sure, when you have Spice Girls and Adele next to eachother, I think we all know who has the most prestige and respect in the music industry. :heehee: Also on a seperate note have The Spice Girls won any Grammy's? I'd agree with Bre (cant see who wouldnt) Adele is definitely bigger then Boyle in the US & Worldwide for that matter. Edited September 16, 201113 yr by Karma
September 16, 201113 yr One thing is for sure, when you have Spice Girls and Adele next to eachother, I think we all know who has the most prestige and respect in the music industry. :heehee: Also on a seperate note have The Spice Girls won any Grammy's? I'd agree with Bre (cant see who wouldnt) Adele is definitely bigger then Boyle in the US & Worldwide for that matter. Respect. Now thats a different story. Adele is def more respected. I would never even doubt that.
September 16, 201113 yr Respect. Now thats a different story. Adele is def more respected. I would never even doubt that. :lol: I do see where you're coming from anyway, but 21 is no way near over so I think everyone should wait to see how much it has left in it, and thats probably millions worldwide. :dance:
September 16, 201113 yr I think the only way you can compare is see how big overall sales were in the market back then, compare it to now and see how they both captivated that market. I agree with what someone said that sales aren't the only thing that determines an act's popularity, you should really take into consideration their general profile and I guess cultural impact too, which in that scenario I'd definitely say Spice Girls have it, but like others have said we should wait until Adele's album is done with before realistically trying to compare.
September 17, 201113 yr Did the Beatles just get compared to the spice girls? :mellow: No. I was stating that at the time there were classed as the biggest worldwide phenomenon since them, which they were.
September 22, 201113 yr Spice Girls were way bigger than Adele based on both their first 2 albums and singles Spice Girls sold about 12-14 million albums and 6 top 20 singles Adeles has sold about 4 million albums and 2 top 20 singles so far. The Spice Girls came at a time albums sales were much bigger. If you compare their chart runs, tough, there is no way Adele´s "21" can be less sucessful then "Spice". It already had 12 weeks at #1 there... and the album is only on its 2nd single. Not to mention Adele has a much brighter future then the Spices had... There´s no chance in the earth her 3rd album will only peak at #39 in USA like "Forever" did! Even if it´s a massive flop, it might debut at #1 based on the hype of its predecessor alone. And in the UK, 21 has already surpassed the sales of "Spice" in a much shorter space of time. Of course Adele will not sell this year as much albums and singles as the Spice Girls sold in the year of their peak, but over time she won´t have a career as shortlived as the Spice Girls had. Doesnt matter about how the industry is at the moment. She has still sold nowhere near the amount the Spice Girls have worldwide and thats all that matters. Her 3rd album will sell in one day more then the Spice Girls 3rd album sold in its entire history. The Spice Girls was a huge phenomenon but lasted for a minute. We don´t know if Adele will remain popular for a long time, but even if her popularity decreases, it will be gradual, not like what happened with the Spice Girls. And how many digital tracks have the Spice Girls sold??? I know that when they were active the digital market was nowhere near as big as it is today (that´s if it even existed!), but acording to your logic "it doesn´t matter"... "Rolling In The Deep" sold 5 millions in the USA and still counting. It would be as stupid to compare its sales to the sales of "Wannabe" as it is to compare sales on an album from 2011 (when you can get to #1 with 40k sold in some weeks!) then an album of 98 (when anything that grasped the top 10 sold over 100k). And estimating and speculating are not enough to come to a conclusion either because that is your own opinion. You may think your estimates put her bigger than the spice girls but others wouldnt. And its the facts that will last. In 10 or 20 years times people will looks at facts and thats it. What illegal downloads or what "may" have listened to at the time will not even come into to question. People just see facts. And the most remarkable fact is that the Spice Girls sucess lasted for 2 years. In 10 or 20 years, the Spice Girls will not be regarded as bigger then Adele. They will be regarded as a teen act who was popular for 2 years in the 90´s, while Adele might be regarded as a sucessful singer who had dozens of #1 albums. I know it´s just speculation, but isn´t it speculating anyway that in 20 years people will look at the Spice Girls as bigger then Adele? Even 3 years after they debut people weren´t looking at them when they came back and released an album that nobody bought. Let alone 20 years!!!
September 22, 201113 yr The only way I would say she was bigger album wise is if she could have 2 albums sell betwenn 15 million each. Then I would say she was a bigger album artist and has sustained it, just like the Spice Girls did. Or maybe if she has a few more million selling / #1 albums over the years, even if they don´t sell 15 million each? The Spice Girls had not sustained it. Specially in the USA. First album sold 8 million, second album sold half that, third album just scraped the Top 40. That´s what you call "sustain"? I call it going downhill very quick! I think Adele has far bigger probabilities of sustaining it over the years the the SG. She doesn´t need to sell 10 million copies of all her albums. Alanis Morissete sold 30 million copies of "Jagged Little Pill" and she is not bigger then Madonna (who never had an album selling that much). The fact that Adele´s 2008 debut album is among the Top 10 albums of 2011 worldwide is a good indicator that she will last longer. Her debut album didn´t sell 20 million, but 4 years on it´s still hot... Where were the Spice Girls 4 years after their debut? They were reuniting with an album peaking at #39, and having local UK sucess with their solo albums. Except from Geri who flopped at #42 with her solo album in America, none of them was even able to scrap the BB Hot 200 albums. You don´t measure cultural impact just by the intense popularity an artist has on TV and among teenagers. Unless your definition of "culture" embraces just the young people who watch MTV. Someone like Bob Dylan, for example, never caused the same fever as the Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys did in their peaks. But the fact that he is still respected and people still care whenever he releases new material means his cultural impact IS bigger then theirs. And thats just 1 album. Lets she if she can sustain the momentum like the spice girls did or if its just becuase she is the "in" thing at the moment And for the last time... how on earth do you say the Spice Girls have "sustained" it? They only had a few months of sucess. "Spiceworld" came out only a year after "Spice" (in America, it was just a few months in between). It didn´t even manage to go #1 in USA and sold only a half of its predecessor. Then anything they did after "Spiceworld" was an epic fail. They certainly are the last name to use as an example of acts that sustained sucess over the year. Even the BSB, N Sync and other teenage acts are better examples then them!
September 22, 201113 yr Is this conversation still happening lol. And was there any need to create a different post for every point you made, when you could have had it all in one. As I keep saying, its pointless conparing these 2 particular artists. There were both out in different decades where the industry was in a different situation. And just one last point, you keep talking about the UK or USA when comparing them. There is a whole globe to compare with btw. Spice Girls were a cultural phenomenon so there will be remembered for decades, Adele isnt. She may turn into a Alanis and only have one major album. People speculate to much. I hope she lasts for decades though.
September 22, 201113 yr 93. Grenade - Delilah I have to assume this is a different Delilah to the one of 'Time'/'Go' fame in the UK?
September 22, 201113 yr Author Is this conversation still happening lol. I know. Who knew the Spice Girls were so beloved :lol: And was there any need to create a different post for every point you made, when you could have had it all in one. Just remembered I can merge posts in this forum, which I've done (into 2 posts) :heehee:
September 22, 201113 yr 93. Grenade - Delilah I have to assume this is a different Delilah to the one of 'Time'/'Go' fame in the UK? Yeah just youtubed it. Interesting version. Love it :P http://youtu.be/M6YlmEVyGrE
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