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His political skills are pretty good. He has a habit of pulling it out of the box when he needs to, much as I dislike him for it.
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His political skills are pretty good. He has a habit of pulling it out of the box when he needs to, much as I dislike him for it.

 

He's all style and no substance. I don't think that anyone respects him apart from people who are politically motivated or certain sections of Conservative supporters.

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Say what you will, but he managed to engineer a scenario whereby he didn't win the last election but is still managing through the Tory wet dream of reducing state spending by a third. That takes some serious political skill.
Well, you can't deny that his political image is not up to scratch at all. He's not even convinced with himself and a lot of other prime ministers have had belief in what they are saying. Maybe his image was good at the start, but when it came to it, he couldn't deliver on his hype. The Tories won't get into power next time, unless they elect a new effective leader (Adam Afriyie is a good example) for the next election.
Say what you will, but he managed to engineer a scenario whereby he didn't win the last election but is still managing through the Tory wet dream of reducing state spending by a third. That takes some serious political skill.

 

That's not him though, he was just Andy Coulson's puppet (now Craig Oliver)

LOL. I think it says it all that you think Adam Afriyie would be an effective leader given he can't even organise a rebellion of three people without it all leaking out!

 

Cameron is, possibly only Boris aside, the best leader the Conservatives could have at the moment - he polls ahead of his party by a pretty considerable distance. And it's not exactly a given that the Tories won't get into power next time.

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Sorry for not being clued up on the key issues and saying something from the perspective of a normal person, that's a good way to patronize people...

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I don't think you're really coming at it from the perspective of a normal person.
I am a normal person who isn't politically motivated. Also, who are you to tell me if I'm not looking at the perspective of a normal person when I am a normal person?
You don't have rent, bills, and a shopping basket to pay for every week/month, you don't pay tax, and you don't hold down a job. Your stake in judging a government, its intentions and its effectiveness is very much different to that of a normal person. As is mine, but I price that into my assessments.

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You don't have rent, bills, and a shopping basket to pay for every week/month, you don't pay tax, and you don't hold down a job. Your stake in judging a government, its intentions and its effectiveness is very much different to that of a normal person. As is mine, but I price that into my assessments.

 

Well, that's fair enough. But am I not allowed to discuss these issues with others just because I'm not living like a normal person?

I didn't say you weren't allowed to discuss these issues, but don't be under the illusion that you're discussing them from the point of view of a normal person.
I read about that as well! :lol: Seriously though, why can't David Cameron and his party ever tell the truth...

He seems to have decided that, as so many people assume politicians never tell the truth, he might as well meet their expectations. People should have got the hint in the election cam,paign when he claimed to have met a 40-year-old black man who had spent 30 years in the British armed forces.

Would love both the Tories and Lib Dumbs to have a bloody nose in this by-election. Thankfully the Tories will suffer.

 

Prediction:

 

1 Orange Tories

2/3/4 anything between UKIP, Labour and the Tories

5/6 Health Action/TUSC

To be honest, the coalition is dying. Both parties are losing their key supporters base - the Tories are alienating themselves from the electorate even more with the bedroom tax and now the AAA rating being downgraded.

 

Ed Millband has found his feet, and is showing that he is a strong leader and the next PM. Although Labour are not perfect and have some liablities in the party e.g Liam Byrne - they're the safest and best option to lead this country out of the mess we are in.

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Oh GOD, you're not a TUSC fan are you?

 

(Actually: ignore me, the Liam Byrne jibe probably answers that one.)

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Election today, from the looks of it, the voter turn-out will be much higher than usual by-elections.

 

At least it's more exciting than the Mid-Ulster by-election, in which 2 of the 4 candidates refused to take part in a debate, and where a new unionist party was formulated.

Labour sources are now also suggesting that the Lib Dems have won with UKIP second and Labour a poor fourth.

 

The Lib Dems will call this a triumph against the odds and proof that the party can still hold most of their seats at the next election. Ukip will also call it a triumph. Tories and Labour will say that Eastleigh is an exceptional case as the Lib Dems hold all the council seats in the constituency - ignoring the embarrassing reasons for the byelection in the first place. As ever, the truth will be somewhere in between.

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