The problem is with JLS is that their fanbase is getting older, and/or growing out of them. Boybands can only usually sustain a career for 3-4 years before that happens, and there really can't be more than two competing ones at the same time. I honestly think JLS are over.

 

not to mention they've done nothing to progress their sound like the likes of Take That or the groups that have lasted long have done. They're still pounding out the same old generic songs over and over again just to get another quick hit, Proud could be mistaken for Love You More with different lyrics, even more desperate is that this came after an underperforming era by their standards...

 

they need to take time out and come back with a good song that isn't just to get a quick hit and appeal solely to their fanbase

Edited March 20, 201214 yr by C.W

The "Proud" and "Morning Sun" comparisons are ridiculous given the latter was on an album which had already sold the best part of a million copies before the single was released. "Gold Forever" is a far better comparison, which was at #2 in the mids with higher (although probably not by a huge amount) sales. So yes, "Proud" is underperforming largely because it evidently hasn't connected with the public as well as some of their earlier singles. As their initial fanbase outgrows them it will be more difficult for the band to get big hits but, like any mainstream act which such a large amount of money poured into them, it's always possible with the right song.

The thing with bands that operate in the pop field (more so than many other genres) is that they live and sure by chart positions so a relative success by most standards is viewed as a failure in that small branch of pop. That's why everything is geared towards no 1 singles, and as a result they can look calculated which turns people against them quicker than your average indie bands for example.

It's sad to see any uk band struggle, but I suspect/ history suggests the writing is on the wall now.

 

 

Exactly! Which is why they should concentrate more on making decent songs (like WMYB) and perfecting their craft instead of making a mockery of things.Groups like jls are one of the reasons why most uk labels turned away from OA/OS releases because they knew most of their singles would struggle to make it up the chart and stay up the chart without a held back release strategy!! Unfortunately as long as 14 year old girls will buy this music record labels will release and form bands like this and who are we to say they are not allowed to like it and buy it?!

JLS at #5 = :cheer: I expected them to be #3 in the first update at least so this is rather fabulous.

I think the appeal of charity singles has begun to wear off now. That Robbie Williams one a few years back didn't even go top 40, The Collective for Children in Need only peaked at #24 despite high-profile artists appearing on it and even the JLS and One Direction'd X Factor Finalist single didn't stick around for long.

 

The thing I find most amusing about JLS apparent 'flop' of a single, is that they moved so quickly away from their third album and 'Do You Feel What I Feel?' because an opportunity arose for them to get another #1 (charity single) - but now it looks set to do worse than any of their other lead (and second) singles on week one.

Don't think the appeal of them has worn off as such, more that they were always so heavily dependent on physical sales and there are obviously less and less places to buy them these days, hence why they struggle. The fact that they don't translate too well to the download age probably says a lot about the general types of people who bought them in the first place though (i.e. those with a VERY casual interest who generally bought them as an aside with something else, say their weekly food shopping or while general browsing in Woolworths, rather than specifically going out in mind to buy the song).

 

What charity is the JLS single for anyway? I could have sworn Comic Relief was on last year :blink:

What charity is the JLS single for anyway? I could have sworn Comic Relief was on last year :blink:

 

Sport Relief :P

Sport Relief

I hear it's for Sport Relief.

I hear it's for Sport Relief.

 

Where did you hear such ridiculousness?

I don't understand all this bad towards JLS - they're brilliant! I hope they go top five. Marvin's hot!

I don't understand all this bad towards JLS - they're brilliant! I hope they go top five. Marvin's hot!

Yes you seem to find a lot of popstars hot from what I can gather :huh:

 

No-one is hating or wishing them gone (well I'm not anyway) but looking at the position they are in and what their next step might be?!

Yes you seem to find a lot of popstars hot from what I can gather :huh:

 

No-one is hating or wishing them gone (well I'm not anyway) but looking at the position they are in and what their next step might be?!

 

I guess what I'm saying is that you can't expect every release from a big or popular act to be a stormer. Even good old Madge has had a few duff singles in her time! And take elton john, he had plenty of tracks that bombed during his career - but I just don't think the odd duff release should signal the end for an act.

Also, who's mike snow? didn't he do the x files theme in the mid-90s?

I guess what I'm saying is that you can't expect every release from a big or popular act to be a stormer. Even good old Madge has had a few duff singles in her time! And take elton john, he had plenty of tracks that bombed during his career - but I just don't think the odd duff release should signal the end for an act.

You're right, my point was that it matters more to a band like JLS because of the factors I mentioned. The singers you mentioned were long established before the flops occured as well and in a different era when one or two flops didn't equal the end of a career. I don't think it's automatically the end of the group but it'll be a big nail in the coffin (if you pardon the analogy).

Also, who's mike snow? didn't he do the x files theme in the mid-90s?

 

Miike Snow :P They're a pretty good Swedish band.

Edited March 20, 201214 yr by Bréyhound

You're right, my point was that it matters more to a band like JLS because of the factors I mentioned. The singers you mentioned were long established before the flops occured as well and in a different era when one or two flops didn't equal the end of a career. I don't think it's automatically the end of the group but it'll be a big nail in the coffin (if you pardon the analogy).

 

Yeah, I see your point. But JLS are fairly established now too - they had their first hit three years ago in July and have had number ones in all those years since: 2009, 2010 and 2011. I personally think they're at the top of their game as far as talent and boybands go, and I daresay their concerts are well attended (ticket sales must surely count for a lot when weighing up a band's relevance). I also rate them a hell of a lot higher than Wand Erection! They've missed the top 10 only once in their career AFAIK (with their last track) and their new one will be a surefire return to the top 10. I think they'll be ok for a while. But thanks for elaborating. Oh, and JLS can't get dropped cos Marvin's hot! :D

Miike Snow :P They're a pretty good Swedish band.

 

 

 

Oooooohh, yummy! Are they like Abba? Or Ace of Base?? Are they boys or girls or a mixture? Are they dancey? I think I will like them! :cheer:

Yeah, I see your point. But JLS are fairly established now too - they had their first hit three years ago in July and have had number ones in all those years since: 2009, 2010 and 2011. I personally think they're at the top of their game as far as talent and boybands go, and I daresay their concerts are well attended (ticket sales must surely count for a lot when weighing up a band's relevance). I also rate them a hell of a lot higher than Wand Erection! They've missed the top 10 only once in their career AFAIK (with their last track) and their new one will be a surefire return to the top 10. I think they'll be ok for a while. But thanks for elaborating. Oh, and JLS can't get dropped cos Marvin's hot! :D

Oh were it that easy to stipulate who succeeded and who failed. Even the mighty Westlife and Take That had only 4 years at the top of the game before tides turned against them (though obviously Take That split before it happened to them). Factors such as talent rarely get in on the act- it's a high disposability genre and notoriously fickle, thusly bands in the field either have to appeal to a different audience or die (Westlife went onto the Grandmother/ Mums audience certainly from 04 onwards which allowed them an extended existence. They've done well I don't deny but to think they'll be around for another 3 or 4 years I think will prove too much for them unless they make the transition.

Oooooohh, yummy! Are they like Abba? Or Ace of Base?? Are they boys or girls or a mixture? Are they dancey? I think I will like them! :cheer:

Erm, don't think you will, actually.

They're no Alcazar.

 

Bloodyshy & Avant featuring an American singer performing indie-flavoured electronic pop music. They're ok imo.

 

Just because you like Toxic you won't probably need to rush to the store.

Edited March 21, 201214 yr by SKOB