Posted April 30, 201213 yr http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17900567 And, yet again, David Sca-Moron resorts to a cheap age-ist jibe against Dennis Skinner instead of actually answering a straight question regarding Jeremy Hunt..... I dunno about you, but I am sick to the back teeth of this "arrogant Posh Boy" in Nadine Dorries' absolutely accurate words..... He thinks he's being clever, but he's not, he's just showing himself up to be a pathetic juvenile brat who cant handle a bit of hard politics from one of the few genuinely "Honourable Members" in the House of Commons... I cant wait until George Galloway gets his teeth into him....
April 30, 201213 yr From what I've read there were quite a lot of Tories embarrassed by that remark. Cameron's whole statement was utter rubbish. Let's leave aside his feeble grasp of geometry where he said he didn't want a parallel enquiry to cross over an existing one. He said he consulted with the Cabinet Secretary. What he didn't say was whether he accepted the Cabinet Secretary's advice. The Tories' questions were, once again, obviously all planted by the whips. There were a number of references to various special advisers to Labour ministers who had to resign. However, since then, the ministerial code has been changed (by Gordon Brown) to make it clear that a minister is responsible for their advisers. Cameron has said that Adam Smith (Hunt's adviser) acted inappropriately. Therefore, according to the ministerial code, Hunt is responsible and must go. Tories are still trying to insist that the Leveson enquiry should deal with the matter. How many times do they need to be told that the ministerial code is not within Leveson's terms of reference. Yet Cameron still tries to palm it off to Leveson in the hope that the whole issue will go away. Other Tories use the old "It's not what people are talking about" excuse. So what? We are talking about behaviour which very nearly made the Murdoch empire even more powerful than it already is. If, for example, Murdoch had thrown in a free subscription to the Sun and/or Times with a Sky subscription, that would have caused immense damage to competing newspapers with the possibility that one or more of them would have closed. That would have been in keeping with Murdoch's general habit of wanting to destroy the competition rather than just beating it.
April 30, 201213 yr I should also have noted that it was interesting that there were no Lib Dem ministers on the front bench while Cameron was defending Hunt. A very sensible move on their part.
April 30, 201213 yr What a stupid man David cameron is. Dennis Skinner has seen off far better politicians and he's still far sharper than Cameron will ever be. He'll bide his time before he goes for the jugular.
April 30, 201213 yr Author What a stupid man David cameron is. Dennis Skinner has seen off far better politicians and he's still far sharper than Cameron will ever be. He'll bide his time before he goes for the jugular. Indeed. Cameron thought he was "clever" when he made that joke about Nadine Dorries being "frustrated". She absolutely pasted him and Osborne the other week and did far more damage to them than they could possibly do to her.. Hell Hath No Fury... and all that.... :lol: :lol:
April 30, 201213 yr From the Telegraph. Yes, the Telegraph. Righteous indignation can be all very well when your case is strong. But when a government's case is weak as it is on Jeremy Hunt, BSkyB, Adam Smith and Fred Michel it is much better to deal with any questions calmly and with a little humility. I don't know why some Tory MPs seem to have trouble grasping this point, but Lord Justice Leveson's remit does not cover breaches of the ministerial code. It simply doesn't. He was tasked with examining press ethics and practices after the now-defunct News of the World was revealed to have hacked Milly Dowler's mobile. But still, clearly put up to it by the whips, a queue of Conservative MPs lined up to parrot the Prime Minister's not very credible line that he cannot intervene on the question of the ministerial code until Hunt has appeared in front of Leveson. A few Tory MPs I spotted at least had the grace to look embarrassed by their colleagues' toadying. David Cameron himself was absolutely furious at being asked to come to the Commons to answer an urgent question on Hunt. I do not see what he has to be so annoyed about, unless perhaps he is deep down annoyed with himself and the mess he is in. More likely, he just didn't like his enemy Speaker Bercow ordering him to turn up. Meanwhile, the Tory chairman's claim that this was all unnecessary because the PM had been questioned on television yesterday is yet more evidence that Baroness Warsi is struggling to grasp the basics. The PM is accountable to Parliament, not to Andrew Marr. From the off Cameron's approach was wince-inducingly ill-judged. He rushed his statement and sounded steadily more touchy as he got deeper into it, lashing out and even shouting at one point about Charlie Whelan. It wasn't very Prime Ministerial. In contrast, Miliband was much better today than in his botched PMQS outing last week. Rather than sounding like a whiney teenager he opted for a calm, forensic set of questions and attacks. This only angered Cameron even more. Whenever his motives or integrity are questioned by opponents a red mist descends. This is admirable, to an extent, because it shows he takes the character question very seriously. But it can also induce in him a boiling rage that is not likely to look attractive to any passing voters. At one point it was Flashman to the max: "Get yer facts right", a puce Cameron snarled at Miliband. "More! More! More!" brayed some Tory MPs at the end, clearly unaware of how awful the overall performance had been. Make it "Less, less, less." The Tory leader was good on Marr yesterday; that was Cameron at his best. In the Commons today we saw him at his worst.
April 30, 201213 yr Cameron's response to Skinner was petulant and ill-advised, it's very easy to see his true colours when he's confronted by something unexpected and has to shoot from the hip - see also the infamous "calm down, dear" comment. Even with all the PR grooming in the world a tiger can't hide his stripes - the Telegraph may well think the PM's appearance on Andrew Marr was great but it was only any good because every word will have been planned to within an inch of its life.
May 1, 201213 yr Many Tories - including Cameron himself - were angry with the Speaker for allowing yesterday's emergency question. Steve Richard in the Independent has explained exactly why John Bercow was right. The Speaker, John Bercow, was not biased against the Conservatives in calling Cameron to put his case in the Commons yesterday. He was biased in favour of the Commons and that means he is biased in favour of the electorate which votes for MPs of any party. Bercow was brave and right to make the elected chamber the forum for scrutiny over an unresolved issue. Ultimately, Prime Ministers are accountable to the Commons and not the BBC or newspapers, especially in a hung parliament when Cameron does not necessarily command majority support in relation to Hunt. Some senior Liberal Democrats wonder aloud whether Hunt has broken the ministerial code and should be investigated by the relevant civil servant. It should also be added that the Commons goes into recess today until the Queen's speech later this month so there will be no PM's questions tomorrow.
May 4, 201213 yr What a complete douche Cameron is and will always be.Tthe UK public are getting what they voted for a bunch of out of touch toffs who have no interest in anyone but themselves. His rudeness to Skinner shows his true colours that he is both immature and does not have much experience of being spoken to like that from people he considers inferior to him
May 7, 201213 yr Anyone who puts Skinner in his place is fine by me. Skinner's rude and not fit to be an MP. Well ssaid Dave.
May 8, 201213 yr Author Anyone who puts Skinner in his place is fine by me. Skinner's rude and not fit to be an MP. Well ssaid Dave. Fukk off Chris..... <_<
May 9, 201213 yr Author http://www.dingsme.info/avatar13.jpgI should also have noted that it was interesting that there were no Lib Dem ministers on the front bench while Cameron was defending Hunt. Yup, I noticed that too... :lol: :lol:
May 9, 201213 yr Today he added to his Queen's Speech moments when the black rod came in: "Jubilee year, double dip recession, what a start!" :lol: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18003545 He is an MP who I have the utmost respect for, its ridiculous we're still doing all of this crap in this day and age! Especially as the new laws that the Queen read out include the employment laws that basically make it a lot easier for employers to sack people for no reason because you know that's just the kind of thing we need right now. :rolleyes:
May 9, 201213 yr Author Are you suggesting that the role of Gold Stick In Waiting is pointless flummery? :o Perish the thought.... :lol: :lol:
May 9, 201213 yr Author Today he added to his Queen's Speech moments when the black rod came in: "Jubilee year, double dip recession, what a start!" :lol: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18003545 He is an MP who I have the utmost respect for, its ridiculous we're still doing all of this crap in this day and age! Especially as the new laws that the Queen read out include the employment laws that basically make it a lot easier for employers to sack people for no reason because you know that's just the kind of thing we need right now. :rolleyes: Spot on.. And indeed, respect to Mr Skinner, good to see one MP who has the guts to cut through the mindless pomp and ceremony with a healthy dose of reality.... Those new rules regarding employment are appalling, and to add to that we also have the Internet "Snooper Charter" as well... And to think the Tories and Lib Dems were criticising New Labour for their laws which impinged on civil liberties and privacy...... Two faced b'astards, still, you can never trust a Tory anyway, and a Lie Dem even less..... <_<
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