That hasn't taken into account the momentum from Wyoming.

L O L

 

No, actually, I AM GENUINELY LAUGHING OUT LOUD.

 

I just rolled my eyes so hard the entire population of Lancashire, Cheshire and Yorkshire now have a migraine.

I still think New York is going to be much closer than some of these polls are showing. The polls in northern states have tended to underestimate Sanders.

I love how the social democrats on this forum seem more scared of the left candidates than any right wing candidates in politics at either side of the Atlantic, always trying to demean any of their achievements or play down their chances at any turn or make their supporters seem that if only they moved away from their utopian idealistic position to one which is more likely to be electable they would stand a better chance. It really is patronising to say the least!

I'm assuming that you're including me in this description (Tirren and anyone else who knows me outside of the forum will find that amusing to say the least). You couldn't be further from the truth - far from being more scared of the left than the right, I've stated on multiple occasions that I'm actually supporting Sanders in the primaries, I hope he's the next POTUS and in many ways he embodies what I was hoping from Corbyn over here.

 

That said, this is a forum which is supposed to foster debate. It's not somewhere to be tribal and blindly nod along with people who happen to support the same candidate as you if they're being a fucking moron.

Oh hoe hoe HOOOLD up!

 

I NEVER said I supported Bernie.

 

In fact I think his campaign is not substantively different to the empty rhetoric campaign of Trump.

 

But I can see he will win thanks to the momentum build-up!!

Truly the worst of all positions.

Oh my. It makes even LESS SENSE this way!!

Something something contrarian position?

 

I'd love to be making up numbers for Bernie to see him squirm into the nomination but I've resigned myself to knowing it's not going to happen.

How do you all not see he is gonna get the nomination?!

 

Momentum and internet grass roots and constant Hills attacks on both sides all but guarantee it and none of those factors is going away. If by some miracle he doesn't get it then he will go independent like Trump and then there will be a historic FOUR WAY election which for the first time ever will be won by an independent. He would get 50% Democeats and also some Republicans and independents. So he's kinda gonna be the next porus. I have accepted this even if I don't like him.

Momentum and internet grass roots and constant Hills attacks on both sides all but guarantee it and none of those factors is going away. If by some miracle he doesn't get it then he will go independent like Trump and then there will be a historic FOUR WAY election which for the first time ever will be won by an independent. He would get 50% Democeats and also some Republicans and independents. So he's kinda gonna be the next porus. I have accepted this even if I don't like him.

What will you be changing your name to if this doesn't happen? I'll even let you choose.

It'll be you and Qween Silas Danny and Soy Adrian changing. Bre and I are safe by choosing the winning side.

Doesn't matter, blonde moment.

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I feel comfortable with my choices.

 

Bernie has done exceptionally well and he will continue to push her right the way to the end. He's dragged her far further left than anyone could have expected and further than she wanted, he's achieved much, much more than anyone expected. This movement won't just vanish when he loses, the grass roots support will ensure that. And yes part of me IS biased against Bernie, I've always been a Liberal Conservative so Hillary is naturally more my SPEED, but NUMBERS don't lie and the numbers don't stack up for him at all.

Something something contrarian position?

 

I'd love to be making up numbers for Bernie to see him squirm into the nomination but I've resigned myself to knowing it's not going to happen.

 

 

It may. He has the MOMENTUM remember. :lol: :rolleyes:

I am supremely confident that I will not be changing my name.

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Well this just proves my argument. Momentum v a campaign collapse. Only one person can win in November following that collapse too.

What's that sound I hear off in the distance? Oh yes, the sound of all that MOMENTUM slamming into a brick wall called a 16 point (ish) loss in New York.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/18/politics...ooter_expansion

 

Well this just proves my argument. Momentum v a campaign collapse. Only one person can win in November following that collapse too.

No, because your argument was (and always has been) 'Bernie Sanders is guaranteed to win the primaries'.

What's that sound I hear off in the distance? Oh yes, the sound of all that MOMENTUM slamming into a brick wall called a 16 point (ish) loss in New York.

 

I wonder where that momentum went when all the most recent polls had her at only a 10 point lead (even Sander's campaign were citing a poll that had her with only a 6 point lead in New York)!!

 

Based on current aggregate polls for next Tuesday's states, Clinton would receive approx. 220 delegates to Sander's 164, increasing the gap between them to 297 delegates.

 

Obviously that is likely to change, but there is as much chance of the polls widening as there is to them shortening.