That was different. He really did have momentum.

Did he shite as like. She hammered him

To be fair this time he probably DOES have more of a point. I'm still fairly confident she will win and I expect with the Bernie endorsement her polling numbers will increase in the coming weeks too, but Trump only needs a few things to go right and he will sneak it. Bernie needed a minor miracle after March 15th.

That was different. He really did have momentum.

And look at all the good it did him.

Don't know about anyone else, but I'll certainly be putting some money on Trump to win the election. Can't see past him at this point.

Don't know about anyone else, but I'll certainly be putting some money on Trump to win the election. Can't see past him at this point.

 

X2.

 

RIP the World if so...

Don't know about anyone else, but I'll certainly be putting some money on Trump to win the election. Can't see past him at this point.

 

Barring a major disaster on his campaign, at this point this election is Trump's to lose, and he's got the persuasion skills to get himself over the line in November. The response to the server scandal from the FBI has torn holes in Hilary's credibility, and it's a testament to Trump's ability to make names stick that I cannot think of Hilary Clinton without first thinking of "Crooked Hilary".

 

As to whether he'd make a good president or not - he's not going to bring about the end of the world, and he's definitely not Hitler, and trying to make any of those somewhat ridiculous claims will only strength Trump and galvanize his supporters.

Barring a major disaster on his campaign, at this point this election is Trump's to lose, and he's got the persuasion skills to get himself over the line in November. The response to the server scandal from the FBI has torn holes in Hilary's credibility, and it's a testament to Trump's ability to make names stick that I cannot think of Hilary Clinton without first thinking of "Crooked Hilary".

 

As to whether he'd make a good president or not - he's not going to bring about the end of the world, and he's definitely not Hitler, and trying to make any of those somewhat ridiculous claims will only strength Trump and galvanize his supporters.

 

It's really similar to us and Brexit, no-one actually thinks it, but so much of the country is just disillusioned and don't think the country can do any worse than Trump. I think it will be really close, but Trump will just edge it.

 

I don't think he would actually be that bad, but the Hilary brand is stinks at the moment. A lot of the poorer states didn't like Bill Clinton to begin with, so again, I think a lot of the swing voters will go towards Trump.

 

The media right now doesn't expect it to happen, but if you do your research you can see it's likely to happen.

Unlike with Brexit, a lot of the traditional Red States have a very considerable proportion of the electorate that are non-white and they swing Hilary at a truly ridiculous rate. Plus when they are motivated they really turn out to vote. Hilary took the nomination on the back of the south.

 

 

I think we might still be seeing a Hilary win because even the Republican establishment hate trump.

Unlike with Brexit, a lot of the traditional Red States have a very considerable proportion of the electorate that are non-white and they swing Hilary at a truly ridiculous rate. Plus when they are motivated they really turn out to vote. Hilary took the nomination on the back of the south.

I think we might still be seeing a Hilary win because even the Republican establishment hate trump.

 

Dunno man, think the Trump PR bandwagon will be out in force and he will tone down all his lard comments now he has the nomination. There are a lot of people who will vote Trump, and even more people who would not vote at all than vote for Clinton. Like I say, it will be really close, but right now Clinton is going to have to do something pretty spectacular in the next few months otherwise a lot of the swing will go to Trump.

I don't think it's necessarily Trump's to lose, not yet anyway. The economy being stable, Obama being popular and a number of other factors place it within the realms of a toss up at best. I'd still just about favour Hillary based on demography too. Trump needs to be winning WAY more of the white male vote than Romney did in 2012 (and even that was far higher than 2008, 2004) to stand a chance.

 

I do think the Brexit comparisons are quite apt though. There's probably more likely to be a sense of complacency on the Democratic side (much like there is in midterms) and that easily plays into Trumps hands. If turnout among minorities and millennials is low, he wins easily. But Hillary has an exceptional ground campaign and her people will make every effort to get the vote out and register people. It might seem small and pointless, but it could make the difference.

I don't think it's necessarily Trump's to lose, not yet anyway. The economy being stable, Obama being popular and a number of other factors place it within the realms of a toss up at best. I'd still just about favour Hillary based on demography too. Trump needs to be winning WAY more of the white male vote than Romney did in 2012 (and even that was far higher than 2008, 2004) to stand a chance.

 

I do think the Brexit comparisons are quite apt though. There's probably more likely to be a sense of complacency on the Democratic side (much like there is in midterms) and that easily plays into Trumps hands. If turnout among minorities and millennials is low, he wins easily. But Hillary has an exceptional ground campaign and her people will make every effort to get the vote out and register people. It might seem small and pointless, but it could make the difference.

 

But probably just as many Republicans that don't like Trump, there are Democrats that don't like Clinton. Lots of people rightly don't believe what she says (e.g. I am against Wall Street.. lol) and she would probably be in jail right now if she was not who she was.

 

Clinton is quite frankly awful imo. Her only saving grace is that she's running against someone just as bad. Still think it will be tough convincing America she's not as bad as Trump.

Oh definitely, there are unprecedented levels of negative feelings towards both candidates within and outside their respective parties. The one thing I think that muddies the water more on this than it might in a normal presidential campaign is Trump doesn't really known HOW to attack Clinton. There's the attacks on her health, her lack of experience, her lying, her cheating the system, etc. He needs to find the one that will coalesce support behind him and then he could easily walk it.

Oh definitely, there are unprecedented levels of negative feelings towards both candidates within and outside their respective parties. The one thing I think that muddies the water more on this than it might in a normal presidential campaign is Trump doesn't really known HOW to attack Clinton. There's the attacks on her health, her lack of experience, her lying, her cheating the system, etc. He needs to find the one that will coalesce support behind him and then he could easily walk it.

 

Oh, I'm sure he knows exactly how to attack Clinton. I assume that he's biding his time for when it will do her campaign the most damage ie closer to the actual election itself.

Her lack of experience isn't really an attack with any teeth though given that she's a trillion billion trillion million times more experienced and capable of holding office than he is.

Oh definitely, there are unprecedented levels of negative feelings towards both candidates within and outside their respective parties. The one thing I think that muddies the water more on this than it might in a normal presidential campaign is Trump doesn't really known HOW to attack Clinton. There's the attacks on her health, her lack of experience, her lying, her cheating the system, etc. He needs to find the one that will coalesce support behind him and then he could easily walk it.

 

I think the debates will be telling as in that aspect Trump is really out his depth, but again, I think a lot of people that voted Obama might be swayed by Trump. Like us, there are lot of people that benefit from economic prosperity, but there's a whole heap of the country that are really disillusioned. The media always focuses on California, New York, Maryland.. there's so much more of the country that's hurting. You never really know how bad it is until they vote Brexit (or Trump in this case).

Barring a major disaster on his campaign, at this point this election is Trump's to lose, and he's got the persuasion skills to get himself over the line in November.

'Trump's to lose' despite more Americans *severely* disapproving of him than say they disapprove (severely or mildly) of Hillary? It takes a lot of persuasion to turn that around.

 

The Brexit comparison is weak - there's no way in hell a presidential election between Cameron and Farage would've ended in Farage winning. There's a difference in a referendum and an election between two people - there are plenty of people who might be amenable to Trump's message who just think he's a racist dick who's totally unsuited to the presidency.

'Trump's to lose' despite more Americans *severely* disapproving of him than say they disapprove (severely or mildly) of Hillary? It takes a lot of persuasion to turn that around.

 

The Brexit comparison is weak - there's no way in hell a presidential election between Cameron and Farage would've ended in Farage winning. There's a difference in a referendum and an election between two people - there are plenty of people who might be amenable to Trump's message who just think he's a racist dick who's totally unsuited to the presidency.

 

Well probably not no, but the difference here is America. Only in America, to the President isn't necessarily being the best at politics, it's about who has the most money! Like I said, I think a lot of people are really underestimating Trump's abilities. Neither are inspiring choices, but I think for a lot of people there's the same feeling of 'things are bad already, voting for Trump can't make things worse'. I think it will be close, but right now I think Trump will just edge it. A lot of the poorer Caucasian Americans imo will lean to Trump.

Well probably not no, but the difference here is America. Only in America, to the President isn't necessarily being the best at politics, it's about who has the most money! Like I said, I think a lot of people are really underestimating Trump's abilities. Neither are inspiring choices, but I think for a lot of people there's the same feeling of 'things are bad already, voting for Trump can't make things worse'. I think it will be close, but right now I think Trump will just edge it. A lot of the poorer Caucasian Americans imo will lean to Trump.

If it's about money, Clinton will win as well. Trump's fundraising has been really bad - last month Clinton raised $42.5m. Trump raised $1.3m.