I absolutely adore Hillary. Aside from the slight niggle of her age she's the perfect candidate. It's about bloody time we had a woman President.

 

I absolutely adore Hillary. Aside from the slight niggle of her age she's the perfect candidate. It's about bloody time we had a woman President.

 

 

Agreed. Hope she stands and wins. She was looking very tired but she'll have had a rest with not flying around the world as Secretary Of State.

I think Clinton would be a shoe in for the Democratic nomination if she chose to stand, her recent health episode is a concern but she was an impressive secretary of state.

 

Republicans should persuade Condoleezza Rice to stand, that would be 2 former female secretary's of state, both incredibly sharp minds and intelligent women, Rice would help attract the black vote too which is something Romney failed miserably at.

 

Christie is a likeable guy but is a heart attack waiting to happen with his obesity, Jeb is intelligent but too allied with his idiot brother, Rubio i don't know enough about and Ryan while sharp minded failed miserably in 2012 on the Romney ticket.

I think Clinton would be a shoe in for the Democratic nomination if she chose to stand, her recent health episode is a concern but she was an impressive secretary of state.

 

Republicans should persuade Condoleezza Rice to stand, that would be 2 former female secretary's of state, both incredibly sharp minds and intelligent women, Rice would help attract the black vote too which is something Romney failed miserably at.

 

Christie is a likeable guy but is a heart attack waiting to happen with his obesity, Jeb is intelligent but too allied with his idiot brother, Rubio i don't know enough about and Ryan while sharp minded failed miserably in 2012 on the Romney ticket.

 

 

What about Joe Biden?

What about Joe Biden?

 

Too old

 

He will be like 73/74 when the next presidential election takes place.

 

 

When Biden was nominated as Obama's VP nominee my assumption was that he would not go for the presidency. He will be 74 shortly after the next presidential election, i.e. four years older than Reagan when he was first elected.

 

Hillary Clinton still seems the obvious choice. That could give the Democrats a significant advantage if they have their nomination sewn up well before the Republicans.

When Biden was nominated as Obama's VP nominee my assumption was that he would not go for the presidency. He will be 74 shortly after the next presidential election, i.e. four years older than Reagan when he was first elected.

 

Hillary Clinton still seems the obvious choice. That could give the Democrats a significant advantage if they have their nomination sewn up well before the Republicans.

 

^ this

 

McCain was 73 when up against Obama in 2008 and he was nothing short of an embarrassment, his speeches were hesitant, he got his words mixed up and confused, he looked old and grey and tired on the campaign trail.

 

Biden will be even older than McCain was, he gets the nomination the GOP will walk it.

Edited June 6, 201312 yr by Sandro Ranieri

Hillary's candidacy finally confirmed.

 

Still waiting on her social media announcement...

Fantastic news about Hillary!

I think we all saw that coming a mile off. Not that she's going to be elected. I'm even sceptical that she'll even get the Democratic nomination.

I think we all saw that coming a mile off. Not that she's going to be elected. I'm even sceptical that she'll even get the Democratic nomination.

 

Who do you think can beat her to the nomination? I hoped Elizabeth Warren would run, but apparently she's not going to.

 

I agree that she's unlikely to win the election itself though.

Who do you think can beat her to the nomination? I hoped Elizabeth Warren would run, but apparently she's not going to.

 

I agree that she's unlikely to win the election itself though.

 

I have a feeling that when the inevitable anti-Hillary backlash begins aplomb in a few weeks time, some rank outsider within the party will take advantage and will become a leading challenger. As to who'd be crazy enough to attempt to dethrone Hillary, the ones that spring to mind are Joe Biden and Andrew Cuomo.

I just can't see who the Republicans would realistically nominate who'd likely beat her. Scott Walker's the best they can manage, and well...let's just say he's not shattering Obama's coalition any time soon, let alone whoever Hillary's adding to it.

I have a feeling that when the inevitable anti-Hillary backlash begins aplomb in a few weeks time, some rank outsider within the party will take advantage and will become a leading challenger. As to who'd be crazy enough to attempt to dethrone Hillary, the ones that spring to mind are Joe Biden and Andrew Cuomo.

She already has a 60+% lead in the campaign. There's barely *anybody* who commands the kind of support within the Democratic Party who could come close to her name recognition, fundraising power and experience, outside of maybe Warren and Biden - and only Warren could come close to having something that could dent Hillary (namely, a vagina and liberal iconhood), at least until the machine that's behind Hillary geared up to pull her to pieces on her total lack of foreign policy interest or experience. Hillary's skeletons have been hyperanalysed for over two decades now. Basically, it's massively, massively, *massively* unlikely anything could get enough momentum to derail her unless it was found out that she shot the Libyan Ambassador herself. This is less Hillary in '08 so much as Gore in '00. Or Reagan in '80. There has never been such a prohibitive front-runner in the primaries in modern American history, short of presidents running for reselection.

 

Jim Webb is the only one running currently who'd have a coherent message separate from Hillary's that could get any traction. It won't.

So is there any chance the democrats can get in again?

Well, a bit more than 'any chance'...

I'd be surprised if Hilary wasn't elected President come next November.

Out of interest, to those who don't think she'll win the general - why so?

 

 

I just can't see who the Republicans would realistically nominate who'd likely beat her. Scott Walker's the best they can manage, and well...let's just say he's not shattering Obama's coalition any time soon, let alone whoever Hillary's adding to it.

 

The "Obama coalition" relied on Obama -- Clinton isn't going to get anywhere near the turnout of black people that Obama got, for one. And even though another Democrat has potential to do better with the white working-class than Obama does, Clinton with her bland, pro-rich centrism is not really likely to do that.

Out of interest, to those who don't think she'll win the general - why so?

 

She just doesn't really stand for anything at all, and isn't likely to excite or inspire people to anywhere near the extent Obama did.

Edited April 12, 201510 yr by Danny