You only need to read through this thread and other ones across the internet. As I have already said, people in and around my life have said it too.

You are coming off across as very close minded and refuse to accept the fact that her music is not being universally adored and seem to be blaming everyone and

their gran for the failure of this era other than Leona and the music. At the end of the day, it's HER music and HER career. If at any point she was unhappy she could

have spoken up and done something about it, plenty of other artists have done this. She has a large portion of the blame here too.

 

Or maybe it is just because I have a different OPINION to you about why I think this era hasn't taken off. Blaming everyone? I've blamed Syco for the handling of Leona's career which, if you have closely followed her career throughout, isn't exactly a misjudgement. "If at any point she was unhappy..." yeah because it is so easy to walk away from the security of a major recording contract. Lots of artists have been unhappy with the management of their careers yet have continued to have no control until their contracts end. Take Kelly Clarkson/Clive Davis for example. "Refuse to accept the fact that her music is not universally adored" err where have I stated that it is? Seriously, you should try and stop being so rude and obnoxious. It's irritating.

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That's not true though, there is a general lack of interest for her music among the public. I've heard mainly negative things about her music anytime it gets a play and very few of the people around me actually like the music, people are just not connecting with it. The fact that it's underperforming WW shows it's more than just radio that's the problem.

 

Absolutely this. The material just isn't connecting with people. If it were a radio problem, she'd be fine in US or Europe. She needs stronger material, but the problem is the public just sees her as a joke now, a puppet that was wheeled out to sing ballads - and again, her voice was NEVER meant just for ballads as she doesn't have the power for it, so it was inherently shaky ground.

Difference is, Kelly actually took a stand rather than just doing nothing about it.

I'm not bring rude, you are just being pissy because you don't like what I have to say.

Hopefully things will pick up a lot more with her coming back to the UK for another round of promotion at the end of the month and hopefully another single release. If not we can always rely of "One More Sleep"/Christmas, With Love to make her relevant in Q4 :kink:

 

 

I find this argument odd. When artists have fans, they anticipate the music coming out, and scour the internet and so forth. The problem is, Leona has lost her fans, and I agree with Truly Talented, in that she hasn't given them enough to keep them interested, and the tour ticket costs are another kick in the teeth for the few that are left. The reason Will has done relatively so much better than her after a 4 year break is that he has retained that loyal fanbase. Also, of course, he puts out good albums, which helps.

 

Having said that, I thought Fire under my Feet was a sure hit when I first heard a short snippet, but the actual recorded song was a let down, and I Am is just boring. Neither is going to make many people go out and buy her album.

 

Absolutely. My mam heard the song and said 'What's this noise? Turn it down!' and was relieved when it was turned off - and she is the target audience for adult contemporary pop! As soon as she said that, I knew it would flop as it isn't connecting and is a bit of a let down.

 

You only need to read through this thread and other ones across the internet. As I have already said, people in and around my life have said it too.

You are coming off across as very close minded and refuse to accept the fact that her music is not being universally adored and seem to be blaming everyone and

their gran for the failure of this era other than Leona and the music. At the end of the day, it's HER music and HER career. If at any point she was unhappy she could

have spoken up and done something about it, plenty of other artists have done this. She has a large portion of the blame here too.

 

Completely right. She sat back and let them steamroll over her career or didn't care enough to step in.

Hopefully things will pick up a lot more with her coming back to the UK for another round of promotion at the end of the month and hopefully another single release. If not we can always rely of "One More Sleep"/Christmas, With Love to make her relevant in Q4 :kink:

 

Both flopped last year though and struggled to rise out of the 100s.

Difference is, Kelly actually took a stand rather than just doing nothing about it.

I'm not bring rude, you are just being pissy because you don't like what I have to say.

 

No I'm arguing against what you have to say - this is a discussion forum you know. Yeah I don't like that you're putting words in my mouth and speaking for me. If you haven't actually grasped what I've been saying then well that's a shame. Leona did take a stand - she left her management, she then left Syco as soon as her contract finished. What exactly did she do differently to Kelly? It took Kelly a while to take a stand too.

I agree to some extent with them picking the wrong singles. My mum didn't like "Fire Under My Feet" and said "I Am" was nice. And she's essentially Leona's target audience at the moment. I feel the album had much stronger songs that could've been singles too - so I feel it's not so much the material being an issue, I think the singles release thus far in the UK have been rather weak and the videos with little replay value.

 

In terms of Leona sitting back and letting them steamroll her career. I agree to some extent, but the reason Glassheart took so long was because Leona wasn't happy with the album and argued with the label to re-record chunks of it and produce more material. I'm really glad she's with Island/Def Jam now - it's not often you get a record deal with big labels after leaving Syco/Song (Alexandra, most other X-factor winners etc). I'm definitely interested in how her next album will go (where Def Jam/Island will invest more money in producers/writers and such).

 

But for now I hope they are able to turn around the current situation and continue promoting the album until Leona's tour. I think Leona will be in the studio June/July of next year for the next album and think that the era will end after her tour. But that's still enough time for another 2-3 singles if they plan to release more.

Both flopped last year though and struggled to rise out of the 100s.

 

"One More Sleep" did really well last year.

 

This year it should do better as it'll likely be on the new Now! Christmas album (they're reissuing it this year) and will be on the main Christmas spotify playlist right away (last year streaming held it back quite a bit as it wasn't in the main Christmas playlist, but when it was added a week or so before Christmas, its streaming rose a lot). Plus Capital played it earlier today and they didn't play it last year. So if they play it too it could do really well actually. :D

 

And I'm pretty sure Christmas, With Love sold a few thousand or so more copies last year which was pretty decent (I think "One More Sleep" sold around 30k last year).

You keep skirting over the point I am trying to make here. The general public are the ones who buy music and a lot of those who has heard Leona's new stuff are

not impressed which is a bit part of why she is underperforming.

 

It's like you actually know the GP, like every single one. :o

 

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I can't believe people actually say "if it's connects with people then why didn't it do good worldwide?"

Are you actually saying Leona should be automatically dominating the charts in Europe if one of her songs connect? Like "don't worry about promo Leona, if your song connects it's top10 no doubt"... She hasn't promoted in Europe since 2012, and even then it was only one performance. It has nothing to do with "connecting", I Am album did much better than GH, it actually charted in lots of countries. FUMF actually went top100 or close in US with no promo. Same for Germany etc. If she'd have done some tv promo or radio promo it would have done good.

 

"It doesn't connect "my ass.

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To say that Leona's voice isnt suitable for ballads is just beyond belief, how can this be taken seriously. I joined this forum for good discussions and it is a shame that this thread has been ruined by a troll. This might as well be ATRL, good luck Scene and Envoirment trying to keep things sane in here, going now for a listen to the brilliant I am.

Listen to her recent performancws. To sing power ballads you need power.

 

Leona has the best falsetto and headvoice in the business probably, but qth a distinctive thinness elsewhere.

 

And not saying isn't suitable, just not suitable for ballad after ballad.

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It's like you actually know the GP, like every single one. :o

 

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I can't believe people actually say "if it's connects with people then why didn't it do good worldwide?"

Are you actually saying Leona should be automatically dominating the charts in Europe if one of her songs connect? Like "don't worry about promo Leona, if your song connects it's top10 no doubt"... She hasn't promoted in Europe since 2012, and even then it was only one performance. It has nothing to do with "connecting", I Am album did much better than GH, it actually charted in lots of countries. FUMF actually went top100 or close in US with no promo. Same for Germany etc. If she'd have done some tv promo or radio promo it would have done good.

 

"It doesn't connect "my ass.

 

If it did connect with people and they liked it, they would download it. Airplay would have picked up and word of mouth would have helped it to do so. The choice is single is so important, especially if you've been gone for years and not been that successful. Look at J-Lo, Rebirth and Brave both underperfomed compared to her previous albums and Louboutins totally bombed, but she came back with a new label and unleashed On The Floor. Radio picked up on it, the public loved it and it gave her the biggest hit she's ever had. People connected with it and because of this, airplay was out of this world.

 

If it did connect with people and they liked it, they would download it. Airplay would have picked up and word of mouth would have helped it to do so. The choice is single is so important, especially if you've been gone for years and not been that successful. Look at J-Lo, Rebirth and Brave both underperfomed compared to her previous albums and Louboutins totally bombed, but she came back with a new label and unleashed On The Floor. Radio picked up on it, the public loved it and it gave her the biggest hit she's ever had. People connected with it and because of this, airplay was out of this world.

 

This!!!

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If it did connect with people and they liked it, they would download it. Airplay would have picked up and word of mouth would have helped it to do so. The choice is single is so important, especially if you've been gone for years and not been that successful. Look at J-Lo, Rebirth and Brave both underperfomed compared to her previous albums and Louboutins totally bombed, but she came back with a new label and unleashed On The Floor. Radio picked up on it, the public loved it and it gave her the biggest hit she's ever had. People connected with it and because of this, airplay was out of this world.

 

Yes but you've got to take into account:

 

(a) she had the very relevant Pitbull featuring on the track.

(b) her profile shot up just before OTF dropped due to bagging a spot on the American Idol panel.

© OTF was actually sent to Pop radio in the US, which gave it a chance of becoming a big hit in the US. Once it took off in the US, the whole world followed (as usual). Leona doesn't even have a song that was sent to Pop radio in America so we can't possibly judge how she would've done.

Having Pitbull doesn't guarantee a big hit though and several stations played the solo verison anyway, plus, being on AI didn't do much for

Mariah Carey and it's not really as big as it once was, ratings slumped.

Lot's of people still thought she was over and wouldn't get a hit. Also, AI isn't huge over here and being big in America doesn't guarantee a hit everywere else.

'Better in Time' was a poor follow-up to 'Bleeding Love' - especially with the likes of 'Take A Bow' on the album / it took Syco forever to follow it up with another bland track ['I Got You'] / lyrically redundant 'Collide'

 

I mean I can accept that the last two songs mentioned didn't do all that well, but Better In Time was a wonderful choice and did very well for Leona and the Spirit campaign! I love these 3 songs, I'm glad they were released. :wub:

 

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Also I'll echo the "my mum didn't like Fire Under My Feet" comments. :kink:

MotherRegina also hated FUMF :smoke: and she normally likes dear old Leona.