I think it was because physical CDS had some catalogue numbers or something like that, and singles with different catalogue numbers were charting separately. See also imports. I can remember single charting as an import lower down, and when they had the official release, they were new entries again but a lot higher on the chart.

 

 

Correct on all counts. I've retro-fitted my data and where an import charts first and then exactly the same material with the same credit charts as a UK release I'm now treating that as the same.

The problem with treating 'Radioactive' as a new entry this week is that its chart position still includes sales of the original (non-Kendrick) version, they aren't split. So presumably you're wanting to combine it all to the higher selling version - does that mean you'd switch back to not crediting Kendrick when the original version starts outselling it again? The OCC doesn't make the split sales public so that'd be guesswork anyway and it'd leave a gap of a few weeks in the middle of the run of the 'original' Radioactive which implies it stopped selling during that time which it didn't. This would not have been a problem in the physical era because the sales of remixes and whatnot were split and generally remixes didn't coincide with the original's chart run anyway, but the OCC's way is clearly the best way in the digital era.

 

I wouldn't ever say a remix constituted an entirely new song anyway unless the lead artist credit changes.

BTW with the Kid Cudi situation the original and remix were only split in the midweeks, they were combined by the end of the week. The Soulja Boy entries were split because they were by different lead artists.

does that mean you'd switch back to not crediting Kendrick when the original version starts outselling it again?

 

No, I wouldn't. I would use the new credits as it's considered as a main track nowadays (it was released later than the original) for me.

 

Back in the physicals era remixes were merged with the original only if there were released more or less in the same promotion time. I don't know about the UK, but here in Germany/Austria the sales of physical single/maxi single/remix maxi were all merged and all their catalogue numbers were used in the charts but the credit was used for the main radio version only.

 

I know I can't compare those 2 eras, but still, in this case it would be better to drop the original title's credits and use the new one's.

I wouldn't say the Kendrick version of 'Radioactive' is now the 'main version' at all though. It's not receiving any proper promotion (apart from the one performance) or airplay, it was just released to tie in with the Grammys performance.

BTW with the Kid Cudi situation the original and remix were only split in the midweeks, they were combined by the end of the week. The Soulja Boy entries were split because they were by different lead artists.

 

Ah yes that was it, i checked Polyhex anbd there was only one chart run, that is must have been what happened. Loved that song at the time!

So when Alicia Keys released Girl On Fire, it had two versions being bought - the standard solo version, and the Nicki Minaj remix. They constantly fluctuated on iTunes and on different weeks, they'd swap. It wasn't one consistently outselling the other. Do you think they should've been split still? It's the same song but remixed to add an extra artist, same as Radioactive (and also Do What U Want recently).

 

Ive always thought of it as quite seasonal too because of the videos xmas scene & reminicent content!

 

It might remind you of Xmas but it's certainly not an Xmas song and its drop can't be attributed to that at all :lol:

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Singles

 

42 62 42 Daft Punk feat. Pharrell Get Lucky (37wks T75)

Why is this almost back into the top 40?

That's far too big a rise to just be a random movement.

Why is this almost back into the top 40?

That's far too big a rise to just be a random movement.

 

It won the Grammy Award for Record of the Year (and was also performed).

It won the Grammy Award for Record of the Year (and was also performed).

Ah right, thanks.

I thought it might be something like that, what with this being 'awards season' and all that.

So when Alicia Keys released Girl On Fire, it had two versions being bought - the standard solo version, and the Nicki Minaj remix. They constantly fluctuated on iTunes and on different weeks, they'd swap. It wasn't one consistently outselling the other. Do you think they should've been split still? It's the same song but remixed to add an extra artist, same as Radioactive (and also Do What U Want recently).

It might remind you of Xmas but it's certainly not an Xmas song and its drop can't be attributed to that at all :lol:

 

 

:lol: I know that but it is quite seasonal still - time for another uptempo summer release in July. Think it def crossed over a bit - I even purchased it!! It was a good idea to release it when available increased its sales a lot!

 

 

How much has Let It Go by Idina Menzel sold now? So glad it finally got Top 20 officially!

Singles:

 

New entries ([#] = number of chart singles for artist(s) in order listed):

#2 will.i.am feat. Miley Cyrus, French Montana, Wiz Khalifa and DJ Mustard - Feelin' Myself [24^[A]; 16^[B]; 1; 11; 1]

#4 Gorgon City feat. MNEK - Ready For Your Love [2; 1]

#5 Katy B - Crying For No Reason [9]

#23 Chris Malinchak - If U Got It [2^[C]]

#57 DJ Stay The Night - Stay The Night [1] ^[D]

#67 Austin Mahone feat. Pitbull - Mmm Yeah [2; 24]

#80 Sheryl Crow - Easy [24]

#82 Just Blaze and Baauer feat. Jay-Z - Higher [1; 2; 51]

#86 Ellie Goulding - Goodness Gracious [14]

 

Re-entries:

#31 The Weather Girls - It's Raining Men [Facebook campaign in response to UKIP councillor's anti-gay comments]

#53 Rihanna - What Now [used in ITV ad]

#58 Macklemore & Ryan Lewis feat. Mary Lambert - Same Love [performed at the Grammys]

#68 You Me At Six - Lived A Lie [release of album 'Cavalier Youth']

#74 Ellie Goulding - Explosions [performed on The Voice UK]

#79 Kodaline - High Hopes [performed on The Voice UK]

#87 Kanye West feat. Jamie Foxx - Gold Digger [59p on iTunes]

#92 You Me At Six - Fresh Start Fever [release of album 'Cavalier Youth']

#93 OutKast - Ms. Jackson [59p on iTunes]

#97 David Guetta feat. Ne-Yo and Akon - Play Hard [59p on iTunes]

#99 Shakira - Whenever, Wherever [59p on iTunes]

 

New peaks within the top 100:

#9 Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Drunk In Love [from #10; performed at the Grammys]

#11 Alesso vs. OneRepublic - If I Lose Myself [from #32]

#19 Katy Perry feat. Juicy J - Dark Horse [from #21]

#20 Idina Menzel - Let It Go [from #22]

#26 Macklemore & Ryan Lewis feat. ScHoolboy Q and Hollis - White Walls [from #27]

#30 Miley Cyrus - Adore You [from #33]

#34 Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Young Blood [from #55]

#46 Demi Lovato - Let It Go [from #56]

#47 Kristen Bell, Agatha Lee Monn and Katie Lopez - Do You Want To Build A Snowman? [from #55]

#52 Imagine Dragons - Demons [from #63]

#70 Lorde - Team [from #95]

 

Dropping out (* = for the first time since entering):

#53 Hardwell feat. Matthew Koma - Dare You *

#58 Saint Raymond - Young Blood *

#68 George Ezra - Budapest

#69 Shane Filan - Knee Deep In My Heart *

#77 Klangkarussell feat. Will Heard - Sonnentanz (Sun Don't Shine)

#79 Rudimental feat. John Newman and Alex Clare - Not Giving In

#80 Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop *

#81 One Direction - Best Song Ever *

#82 John Newman - Losing Sleep *

#85 Ylvis - The Fox *

#87 London Grammar - Nightcall

#88 Jessie J - Thunder *

#90 Demi Lovato - Skyscraper

#92 Ben Pearce - What I Might Do

#93 Rizzle Kicks - Skip To The Good Bit

#94 Kaiser Chiefs - I Predict A Riot

#96 YG feat. Young Jeezy and Rich Homie Quan - My Nigga

#97 Keane - Somewhere Only We Know

#99 Swedish House Mafia feat. John Martin - Don't You Worry Child

#100 Sage The Gemini feat. Iamsu! - Gas Pedal *

 

Artists reaching new career peaks this week:

Agatha Lee Monn [55-47]

Austin Mahone [83-67]

DJ Mustard [**-2]

DJ Stay The Night [**-57]

French Montana [**-2]

Gorgon City [44-4]

Hollis [27-26]

Idina Menzel [22-20]

Juicy J [21-19]

Just Blaze [**-82]

Katie Lopez [55-47]

Kristen Bell [55-47]

MNEK [**-4]

ScHoolboy Q [27-26]

 

Albums:

 

New entries ([#] = number of chart albums for artist(s) in order listed):

#1 You Me At Six - Cavalier Youth [4]

#16 Sheryl Crow - Feels Like Home [9]

#17 Of Mice & Men - Restoring Force [1]

#21 The Rifles - None The Wiser [4]

#28 Skindred - Kill The Power [2]

#40 Ásgeir - In The Silence [1]

#48 David Crosby - Croz [3^[E]]

#52 Transatlantic - Kaleidoscope [1]

#57 Above & Beyond - Acoustic [2]

#58 Paul Rodgers - The Royal Sessions [3^[F]]

#63 The Gaslight Anthem - The B-Sides [4]

#77 David Arnold and Michael Price - Sherlock - Original Television Soundtrack - Music From Series Three [5; 2]

 

Re-entries:

#82 Caro Emerald - The Shocking Miss Emerald

#91 Half Moon Run - Dark Eyes [boosted by success of re-release of single 'Full Circle']

#92 Bruno Mars - Doo-Wops & Hooligans [reduced on iTunes / anticipation for Super Bowl half time show]

#94 Bob Dylan - The Very Best Of

 

New peaks within the top 100:

none

 

Dropping out (* = for the first time since entering):

#72 André Rieu And His Johann Strauss Orchestra - Music Of The Night *

#73 Les Misérables Cast - Les Misérables - Highlights From The Motion Picture Soundtrack

#76 Paul Simon - Graceland

#77 James Vincent McMorrow - Post Tropical *

#83 Elvis Presley - The Nation's Favourite Elvis Songs *

#84 Rod Stewart - Some Guys Have All The Luck

#85 Bob Marley & The Wailers - Legend - The Best Of

#88 Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon

#90 Mumford & Sons - Sigh No More

#91 Guns N' Roses - Greatest Hits

#95 Mary Chapin Carpenter - Songs From The Movie *

#96 Michael Jackson - Bad

#97 Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Greatest Hits

#98 Fall Out Boy - Save Rock And Roll

#99 Nirvana - Nevermind

#100 Damien Jurado - Brothers And Sisters Of The Eternal Son *

 

Artists reaching new career peaks this week:

Ásgeir [**-40]

Of Mice & Men [**-17]

The Rifles [27-21]

Skindred [54-28]

Transatlantic [**-52]

You Me At Six [3-1]

 

Longest running entries (with an unbroken top 100 run since entering for the first time):

 

Singles:

1 49wks Bastille - Pompeii

=2 42wks Daft Punk feat. Pharrell - Get Lucky

=2 42wks Passenger - Let Her Go

4 36wks Robin Thicke feat. T.I. and Pharrell - Blurred Lines

5 33wks Arctic Monkeys - Do I Wanna Know?

6 31wks John Newman - Love Me Again

=7 29wks Avicii - Wake Me Up

=7 29wks Lana Del Rey vs. Cedric Gervais - Summertime Sadness

=9 26wks Drake feat. Majid Jordan - Hold On, We're Going Home

=9 26wks OneRepublic - Counting Stars

 

Dropping out:

Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop [from #10]

One Direction - Best Song Ever [from #9]

 

Albums:

1 115wks One Direction - Up All Night

2 103wks Emeli Sandé - Our Version Of Events

3 72wks P!nk - The Truth About Love

4 71wks Mumford & Sons - Babel

5 69wks Ellie Goulding - Halcyon

6 68wks Jake Bugg - Jake Bugg

7 66wks Calvin Harris - 18 Months

8 64wks One Direction - Take Me Home

9 62wks Olly Murs - Right Place Right Time

10 60wks Bruno Mars - Unorthodox Jukebox

 

Notes:

^[A] +20 as a member of The Black Eyed Peas; +1 as [[[Zuper Blahq]]]; +1 as a member of Artists For Haiti

^[B] +3 as Hannah Montana; +1 as a member of Artists For Haiti; +1 as a member of Helping Haiti

^[C] +1 as a member of Live Element

^[D] Opportunistic cover version of yet-to-be-released track by Zedd feat. Hayley Williams

^[E] +7 as a member of The Byrds; +3 as a member of Crosby, Stills & Nash; +3 as a member of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young

^[F] +9 as a member of Free; +7 as a member of Bad Company (1 of which is also counted in the 9 with Free); +2 as a member of Queen + Paul Rodgers

 

~

 

apologies for the big delay, will try and get the stats post for this week up by tomorrow