Artists and labels earn very little from streaming compared to downloads and CD sales.

 

Not true. Streaming is expected to be a $2 billlion business in the USA this year.

And be larger than combined download revenue (singles and album) at the end of next year.

 

 

2012 RIAA #:

 

Streaming Revenue: $1.0328 billion USD (up 59%)

Singles Download Revenue: $1.623.6 billion USD (up 6.7%)

Album Download Revenue: $1.205 billion USD-----------------combined downloads at $2.829 billion

CD (physical): $2.4856 billion USD

 

2013 RIAA#:

 

Streaming Revenue: $1.439 billion USD (up 39.3%)

Singles Download Revenue: $1.569 billion USD (down 3.4%)

Album Download Revenue: $1.234 billion USD (up 2.4%) ----combined downloads is at $2.803 billion

CD (physical): $2.1235 (down 14.6%)

 

According to Billboard, streaming is growing some 30-40% this first quarter. Download is down 13.3% overall.

 

Now that Apple is all in with on-demand subscription with Beats Music, streaming will even grow faster.

I wonder if the album charts will count streaming as well, might be a bit more complicated to work what counts as an album stream I guess

I wonder if the album charts will count streaming as well, might be a bit more complicated to work what counts as an album stream I guess

 

Maybe some day down the road when streaming is like 80% of the music business.

 

Billboard doesn't count streaming toward the album charts.

 

 

@RecordOfTheDay We hear that streaming data will be added to the Official UK Singles Chart from 29 June, first combined Top 40 chart broadcast on R1 6 July

@RecordOfTheDay We hear that streaming data will be added to the Official UK Singles Chart from 29 June, first combined Top 40 chart broadcast on R1 6 July

@RecordOfTheDay We hear that streaming data will be added to the Official UK Singles Chart from 29 June, first combined Top 40 chart broadcast on R1 6 July

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :(

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :(

 

Seconded. I can see the point of trying to make the chart relevant to people who don't download, but it's a shame it's going to slow the chart down again. And the chart has ALWAYS been a sales chart so it's going to be sad to see it end. Presumably they'll still compile a sales only chart, but... sad times.

@RecordOfTheDay We hear that streaming data will be added to the Official UK Singles Chart from 29 June, first combined Top 40 chart broadcast on R1 6 July

 

So what are people like Cheryl Cole going to do? Since songs don't usually debut at #1 on streaming do they?

 

Those people complaining about one-week #1s can celebrate though. They'll probably become a lot rarer now.

Edited June 3, 201411 yr by Eric_Blob

@RecordOfTheDay We hear that streaming data will be added to the Official UK Singles Chart from 29 June, first combined Top 40 chart broadcast on R1 6 July

 

Excellent news! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

So what are people like Cheryl Cole going to do? Since songs don't usually debut at #1 on streaming do they?

 

Those people complaining about one-week #1s can celebrate though. They'll probably become a lot rarer now.

 

Not necessarily. We don't know how they are going to calculate it. It might only count for 10% or something.

 

I do find it odd that singles take a few weeks to take off on streaming. Why is that?

So what are people like Cheryl Cole going to do? Since songs don't usually debut at #1 on streaming do they?

Also not all songs are even on Spotify (maybe they'll include youtube but still), for example Secondcity. Most are, but still. I think only paid streams should be counted (although I don't think it's possible to differentiate) but even then I don't think streaming should be included. Streaming doesn't mean you like a song, of course most of the time it does but sometimes I listen to songs/albums on Spotify as a sort of try before you buy thing. Perhaps it'll be very lightly weighted though.

By the way, people complaining about how slow the sales charts were before, a lot of big hits will definitely last 30-40 weeks minimum in the top 40 when this happens!

This will obviously force labels like MoS to ensure that their songs are available on Spotify.

 

Not really looking forward to it to be honest, the Eurovision influx will be almost non-existent from now on if streaming has a high weighting on the chart. And radio staple type songs are going to start getting 70+ week chart runs regularly.

 

I barely ever listen to the chart show as it is these days but I definitely won't be now, it's going to be even slower than 2008 probably. The Swedish/US charts as two examples now move at a snails pace thanks to streaming, the former in particular used to be highly volatile and entertaining and now it's not worth following.

Not necessarily. We don't know how they are going to calculate it. It might only count for 10% or something.

 

I do find it odd that singles take a few weeks to take off on streaming. Why is that?

 

I suppose if it's just a small amount then they it might not matter so much (except in close weeks like SecondCity would've probably missed out).

 

I don't know why songs take a few weeks to take off, it's just something I noticed. Perhaps they might release songs for streaming a couple of weeks early, so the streaming can be high on the download release week.

 

By the way, people complaining about how slow the sales charts were before, a lot of big hits will definitely last 30-40 weeks minimum in the top 40 when this happens!

 

Also the people complaining about the deep house domination will be happy, since a lot of the songs aren't up for streaming. With streaming guitar music will benefit (and also stuff like Coldplay) whilst pop music will probably suffer even more.

Edited June 3, 201411 yr by Eric_Blob

Single sales are still healthy and thriving so this is even more pointless. Maybe if we were still in the sales doldrums of 2007, I'd understand.

I wonder how sales data will be announced now. I wonder if Music Week's reports will highlight each songs sales and streaming data separately?

Pogues vs. Mariah for Xmas No.1 (every year) everyone? :cheer:

Single sales are still healthy and thriving so this is even more pointless. Maybe if we were still in the sales doldrums of 2007, I'd understand.

 

Single sales have been decreasing since last summer though. We're not back at 2007 sales levels yet, but we probably will be in a few years.

Streaming will largely benefit One Direction etc!

Streaming will largely benefit One Direction etc!

 

Well surprisingly there isn't a single One Direction song in the Spotify top 100 singles at the moment! However, Nico & Vinz are currently at #71 so that could be an interesting release to follow considering the iTunes release isn't until the end of August.