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I've never considered 'Believe' to be a dance song. Its genre is just 'terrible'.

 

(but in all seriousness, I also think it's more pop than dance).

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On listening to it now - it draws so many production influences from other dance tracks in the mid and late 90s that it could certainly be acceptable as a dance song. If it was some new european singer singing it instead of Cher then it would instantly have been recognised as a dance.

 

Cher "Believe" is a dance track in the sense that it draws vague influences from Eurodance and has a BPM relative to a standard dance track, but that is it. IMO if you include "Believe" then really a whole host of other would-be singles would need to be considered.
Cher "Believe" is a dance track in the sense that it draws vague influences from Eurodance and has a BPM relative to a standard dance track, but that is it. IMO if you include "Believe" then really a whole host of other would-be singles would need to be considered.

 

 

I wouldn't call them vague.

 

Perhaps we need to investigate the whole host.

I can see entirely how Gezza has compiled his thread, he's essentially stuck to 'club music' in his definition of dance music and I for one applaud him for doing so. As soon as you veer into territories of dance pop then it becomes far more difficult to establish what counts and what doesn't. If had been up to me to compile it, I would have omitted most of the songs that Gezza did also.

Well yes, but on the other hand he included acts like the Vengaboys, who are clearly europop/dance-pop. So you either follow through completely with one criteria, or you dont. How is "We're Going To Ibiza" more dance than "Blue" or "Flat Beat"?

 

But let's all just agree to disagree, and appreciate his effort in compiling this list. Clearly everyone has their own take on what fits a genre, as with the official charts company compiling dance and urban lists that have raised an eyebrow for most of us.

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Oh I agree with you on that, I probably would have included Flat Beat and Blue as both were issued with the standard 12" extended mixes that club dance music typically had in the 90s... but a lot of the ones people are grumbling about (Cher, Aqua etc) were just pop music really, albeit at a time when pop music was heavily influenced by dance.

 

But anyway, as you say, it doesn't really matter and at least Gezza's thread was both enjoyable and also caused a fair amount of debate!

To be honest this is perhaps easier than, say, doing a 'dance singles' list of the 2010s as it's become essentially impossible to seperate, say, a Rihanna/Katy Perry pop song with something a bit more underground. The biggest seller of this decade I'd definitely classify as dance is 'Wake Me Up' but I know a lot would say Get Lucky or We Found Love. I consider them as pop songs, but they're played in clubs all the time, so...
I can see entirely how Gezza has compiled his thread, he's essentially stuck to 'club music' in his definition of dance music and I for one applaud him for doing so. As soon as you veer into territories of dance pop then it becomes far more difficult to establish what counts and what doesn't. If had been up to me to compile it, I would have omitted most of the songs that Gezza did also.

 

What about Mr President and The Smurfs? :P

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