No official word yet, but all the papers are starting to run the same story so there must be some truth. Let's discuss the man, his legacy and Manchestet United.

Fergie knew exactly what he was doing quitting when he did and managed to raise a squad of players that he'd (obviously) all recruited himself for one last good season. The club were mad to let the chief executive go at the same time because Ed Woodward (?) clearly wasn't up to the squad reshaping job that was required last summer.

 

Given all that, it would have taken an unbelievable man manager or a great tactician to get this United team into contention this season and Moyes was not that man. I'm not convinced that he's the right fit for what is still probably the biggest team in the country, but three or four very astute signings and not having European distractions means they could have a very good season next year which could provide a springboard for the next few years. Maybe.

Fergie knew exactly what he was doing quitting when he did and managed to raise a squad of players that he'd (obviously) all recruited himself for one last good season. The club were mad to let the chief executive go at the same time because Ed Woodward (?) clearly wasn't up to the squad reshaping job that was required last summer.

 

Given all that, it would have taken an unbelievable man manager or a great tactician to get this United team into contention this season and Moyes was not that man. I'm not convinced that he's the right fit for what is still probably the biggest team in the country, but three or four very astute signings and not having European distractions means they could have a very good season next year which could provide a springboard for the next few years. Maybe.

 

I don't think he knew what he did when he was quitting, this has just been a long decline. A lot of his buys to replace previous key players (Anderson, Nani) just haven't progressed how he would have wanted them. Add that to spending all that money on Van Persie - great a signing as it was at the time, the world has been saying they've been needing a proper central midfielder for a good few years now.

 

Moyes was just totally the wrong choice. I said as much last summer - he changed everything. Their squad is currently in disarray, leaking things to the press. They need 4/5 first team signings, and that's before even covering the rest of the squad. I don't think they'll be in the Champions League for a couple of seasons now, they just need to go back to the drawing board. No European distractions is all very well - I mean Liverpool have benefited from it this year, but more often than not, the teams that do really well are the teams that play in Europe.

 

Regardless it's a huge embarrassment for the club. 'The Chosen One' is now the laughing stock. He doesn't help himself with what he says, but Fergie is the one who hired him. They just have too many of the same types of players. They're lost their fearlessness, and the average players that were made to look really good have shown up to just be entirely average.

You can see why Moyes got rid of the coaching staff though. He must have been worried that they would be constantly telling him "This isn't how we did things under Ferguson".

I hope Man United give him at least another season - I don't know why but I really do like Moyes.

You can see why Moyes got rid of the coaching staff though. He must have been worried that they would be constantly telling him "This isn't how we did things under Ferguson".

 

He wanted to do things his own way, I understand that. But he changed a winning formula with one that promoted mediocrity. It was really silly. From what I gather he was advised against it, but he still decided to press through. They went from short burst training sessions, to long drills. Stupid!

 

I hope Man United give him at least another season - I don't know why but I really do like Moyes.

 

Do you like him because he's awful? :D The guy's a winner without actually being a winner! It's okay though, the papers are running with the fact that Giggs will be the long term successor. Ha.

I don't think he knew what he did when he was quitting, this has just been a long decline. A lot of his buys to replace previous key players (Anderson, Nani) just haven't progressed how he would have wanted them. Add that to spending all that money on Van Persie - great a signing as it was at the time, the world has been saying they've been needing a proper central midfielder for a good few years now.

 

Moyes was just totally the wrong choice. I said as much last summer - he changed everything. Their squad is currently in disarray, leaking things to the press. They need 4/5 first team signings, and that's before even covering the rest of the squad. I don't think they'll be in the Champions League for a couple of seasons now, they just need to go back to the drawing board. No European distractions is all very well - I mean Liverpool have benefited from it this year, but more often than not, the teams that do really well are the teams that play in Europe.

 

Regardless it's a huge embarrassment for the club. 'The Chosen One' is now the laughing stock. He doesn't help himself with what he says, but Fergie is the one who hired him. They just have too many of the same types of players. They're lost their fearlessness, and the average players that were made to look really good have shown up to just be entirely average.

The likes of Anderson and Nani haven't done well but then look at Djemba-Djemba and Kleberson before them - didn't stop Ferguson from crafting his last great team. Every big team makes a couple of flop signings.

 

While most teams don't bounce back straight away, most teams aren't United. Even Liverpool dropping out of the top 4 a few years ago didn't trigger transfer rumours about the likes of Toni Kroos to get the team back on track - Moyes, or whoever replaces him, will have a massive budget to go with a massive reputation with which to lure top players.

The likes of Anderson and Nani haven't done well but then look at Djemba-Djemba and Kleberson before them - didn't stop Ferguson from crafting his last great team. Every big team makes a couple of flop signings.

 

While most teams don't bounce back straight away, most teams aren't United. Even Liverpool dropping out of the top 4 a few years ago didn't trigger transfer rumours about the likes of Toni Kroos to get the team back on track - Moyes, or whoever replaces him, will have a massive budget to go with a massive reputation with which to lure top players.

 

But that's because the likes of Scholes, Giggs, Keane were about to carry the side. All managers make bad signings, but Ferguson never managed to truly replace the 2007-2009 team, which imo was his best.

 

They will have a massive budget, but throwing money isn't going to help the problem. I mean their Rooney deal is utterly baffling. I don't see a purpose it serves, Ferguson wouldn't have sanctioned the deal.Two or three marquee signings aren't going to solve them. Signing Lallana, Shaw, Kroos won't get them success again. They're ignoring the bigger problem completely. I honestly think they will go down a similar path to Liverpool in 1990, only it will not be 25 years before they're challenging for the league again (more like 5/6).

But that's because the likes of Scholes, Giggs, Keane were about to carry the side. All managers make bad signings, but Ferguson never managed to truly replace the 2007-2009 team, which imo was his best.

 

They will have a massive budget, but throwing money isn't going to help the problem. I mean their Rooney deal is utterly baffling. I don't see a purpose it serves, Ferguson wouldn't have sanctioned the deal.Two or three marquee signings aren't going to solve them. Signing Lallana, Shaw, Kroos won't get them success again. They're ignoring the bigger problem completely. I honestly think they will go down a similar path to Liverpool in 1990, only it will not be 25 years before they're challenging for the league again (more like 5/6).

Liverpool's problem around 2010 was equally severe and that somehow worked out! :D

Liverpool's problem around 2010 was equally severe and that somehow worked out! :D

 

Different circumstances though, and the spine of the team have been around for a while (Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Suarez, Gerrard, Henderson). We had a good team under Benitez's last years, but it was just never added to. I think we were incredibly lucky with the signings of Coutinho and Sturridge, they've allowed our game to go to another level. A bit of shrewd investment and we're challenging again. We have a clear philosophy and there are certain characteristics the management team look for before signing players. We've not signed any marquee player bar Suarez.

 

Man Utd don't look to be adapting any of this. Rooney, Mata, Januzai, de Gea is not a bad spine, and quite good. But the rest of their squad is average. They need a coach to be able to coach the likes Jones and Smalling to be better players.

I do want rid of Moyes because I don't believe he has what it takes to rebuild this team. He has no experience at the level United plays at! We need someone who knows what it takes to win trophies and we need them to shake the ever living shit out of the team. We need to stop looking for the next Fergie, we will never find another Fergie! Greatness like that is a rarity. The owners having a spot of patience wouldn't go amiss either.

Officially confirmed now by Man United

 

I think they've made the right move. He comes across a lot like Hodgson at Liverpool. More suited at a smaller club where his tactics are acceptable and he's seen as the underdog.

 

We had an equally awful start to the season under Rodgers last year, but at least you could see some progression was being made.

 

Wonder who they'll get to replace him?

Good riddance! Now to get someone proper in to replace him.

Reminds me a little of Leeds United post-Revie...nobody could come in to fill his boots and Leeds weren't strong again for nearly two decades.

 

Not suggesting United will get relegated to the Championship at any point (!) but I do think power has shifted.

 

I'd like to see Moyes keep his job until after he loses to Sunderland, but you can't have it all I suppose.

I'd like to see Moyes keep his job until after he loses to Sunderland, but you can't have it all I suppose.

 

Oh, he's gone.

Didn't Alex Ferguson have a shit first few seasons? Not that it's very comparable.

He did, but it was at a different time. Moyes is just utter dog, his mentality is awful, and he tries to shift blame on to other people. It's very similar of Roy Hodgson at Liverpool.

 

I'm gutted, thankyou for a very funny ten months David Moyes. I'm one of the few people that predicted he would be an awful appointment, I knew I was always going to be right!

 

As for the next manager, well I think it will be Van Gaal. He will steady the ship, but he's a loose cannon. He's certainly a short term appointment.

You're only given a certain amount of time in today's footballing world as a manager. No more second chances.

Didn't Alex Ferguson have a shit first few seasons? Not that it's very comparable.

The difference being United hadn't won the league for a considerable time when Fergie came in and Moyes took over a team that won last year. To take a team like United out of the Champions League for the first time since 1995 is not a stat he'd like to remember. What's likely is that we'll end the season out of Europe for the first time since 1990. That'll cost United millions, it's right Moyes should go.

 

You can't lose a revenue stream like that, be poor at your job and lose the respect of the fans and players yet still keep your job

Odds on next Man Utd manager: (Coral)

 

Louis van Gaal 10-11f

Ryan Giggs 10-1

Jurgen Klopp 12-1 (Although he won't be approached by Man Utd)

Pep Guardiola 14-1

Sir Alex Ferguson 14-1

Diego Simeone 16-1

Jose Mourinho 25-1

Carlo Ancelotti 25-1

Laurent Blanc 25-1

Carlos Querioz 25-1

 

 

The Holland coach Louis van Gaal the overwhelming favourite to take over. Although he wouldn't be allowed to start until after Holland are out of the World Cup.