Interesting to see which will happen first:

 

#1 Sales and not combined, or

 

#1 Combined and not Sales... :P

My money is on them both happening in the same week.

My money is on them both happening in the same week.

 

I'm not sure you understood my post :lol: :kink:

Can you explain it then please as I thought exactly the same as Suedehead2

I believe he meant an overall #1 that never gets there on sales vs. a sales #1 that never gets there overall. The latter is many times more likely at this stage so it was a pretty silly question anyway.

#1 on Stream+sales chart (official), but not on Sales Only chart,

 

Or #1 on Sales Only Chart, but not Stream+sales chart (official).

 

Stream+Sales (official)

 

Sales Only chart

 

I'm intrigued to find out what you guys thought I meant... :D

Edited October 13, 201410 yr by hotchoc26

Surely they're still the same thing, top of A and not B will happen the same time that something is top of B but not A

Surely they're still the same thing, top of A and not B will happen the same time that something is top of B but not A

 

Don't think of a single week. If a song is #1 on sales and overall, then the next week it's knocked off on sales but not overall, then that is a case of a song being a #1 on sales and not overall without vice versa being true.

 

I am ASSUMING this is what hotchoc was getting at anyway because if it isn't, then he makes no sense.

I understand it.

 

So the first case would be for example this week Steal My Girl selling the most copies, but with streaming factored in, it only officially makes number 2 behind All About That Bass.

 

And the second case would be Shake It Off not selling as many copies as All About That Bass but having thousands more streams so it obtains enough chart points to officially take number 1, despite being outsold.

 

The latter seems extremely unlikely to happen, as it's rare enough for a song to have a higher peak at any position due to streaming, let alone number 1. Only 3 songs have so far achieved this.

Edited October 13, 201410 yr by Dobbo

But if 1D were number 1 in sales but not the official chart, and Meghan was number 1 official yet not in sales - then they're the same thing in this respect?! I can't understand how both 'records' don't come hand in hand?

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Edited October 14, 201410 yr by • Josh •

But if 1D were number 1 in sales but not the official chart, and Meghan was number 1 official yet not in sales - then they're the same thing in this respect?! I can't understand how both 'records' don't come hand in hand?

 

Meghan would still have been #1 on both the combined chart and the sales chart, just in a previous week for the latter.

It would have happened this past Sunday if All About That Bass didnt exist.

 

Bang Bang was #2 on the overall chart, but Anaconda was #2 on the sales only chart.

Shake It Off was #2 on sales a few weeks ago but not combined (peaked 3). I'm pretty sure that's the first time a #2 has been different between charts, so in the #2 concerned what happened first (and currently the only happening) is a #2 on sales but not streamed.

 

D'yall understand it yet? :lol:

So you mean a peak at number one without peaking at number one in the other methodology, not necessarily in the same week (which is how I and apparently a number of others read your post)?

So you mean a peak at number one without peaking at number one in the other methodology, not necessarily in the same week (which is how I and apparently a number of others read your post)?

 

Yes this is right, a #1 that made it with streams added but never on the sales chart. I got confused initially too :lol:

So you mean a peak at number one without peaking at number one in the other methodology, not necessarily in the same week (which is how I and apparently a number of others read your post)?

 

Yes! Always good to explain by example :P

Just because a song didn't top the chart officially yet was top on sales the same week doesn't mean it wouldn't be an official number 1 at a later week or vice versa.

Just because a song didn't top the chart officially yet was top on sales the same week doesn't mean it wouldn't be an official number 1 at a later week or vice versa.

 

If you are referring to my posts (and still don't understand), I guess I'll do (hopefully) one more attempt at trying to explain ;)

 

Note that I haven't perfected all the continuity :lol:

 

http://i.imgur.com/ARhATPF.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/Bmk4P9u.jpg

Who knew you were such a streaming fave? :lol:

Edit: double post.

Edited November 20, 201410 yr by Dobbo