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I hate to interrupt your 58,000th post of nothing but winging that contributes nothing BUT:

 

A - Going on first is one of the best running order positions

 

B - Sweden couldn't have gone first because they were drawn into the second half

 

A) I don't agree that going on first is one of the best running order positions as people are likely to tune in late / forget earlier songs as the show moves on, especially if the song isnt extremely strong.

 

B) RE Sweden yep I forgot about the first half/second half draw but regardless of that, my point was that it doesn't matter where they are placed and for others it does, so SE should have been given a worse slot.

 

Plus if you're not happy with the tone of my comments then ignore them. If I want to comment negatively on aspects and give constructive criticism on how I think it would be better I shall. I'm not going to fangirl over everything just because I like eurovision- or because it is a popular opinion on the forum because the point is to discuss your point of view. As for contributing nothing, the point of a forum is to have discussions and content which create views/clicks/engagement and keeps the forum alive. There are many threads which are useless or games being created just to keep this forum activity high, whereas yano actual varied discussions with different opinions can also keep activity high too... And are much more beneficial than attempting to be 'sassy' at members ala 3rd rate buzzfeed memes or trying to be bitchy - which goes against the point of a forum to discuss, engage and keep it alive.

 

 

A) I don't agree that going on first is one of the best running order positions as people are likely to tune in late / forget earlier songs as the show moves on, especially if the song isnt extremely strong.

 

B) RE Sweden yep I forgot about the first half/second half draw but regardless of that, my point was that it doesn't matter where they are placed and for others it does, so SE should have been given a worse slot.

 

A) The first slot has statistically done very well recently. If the song isn't extremely strong then it probably shouldn't qualify in the first place, no matter where it performs. [it's very feel-good and memorable though, Lithuania will be just fine]

 

B) Is 13th, snuck between Azerbaijan and Slovenia and a couple of moderate standard entries (Switzerland and Iceland), really a great slot for them? They're not closing the show as everyone predicted, settle down.

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I'd happily see Sweden not winning the semi but to suggest they should've been given a worse slot to give everyone else a chance? That literally makes no practical difference at all given they're still qualifying no matter the position.
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First half

 

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Armenia.png Armenia // Genealogy - Face The Shadow

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/au.png Australia // Guy Sebastian - Tonight Again

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Belgium.png Belgium // Loïc Nottet - Rhythm Inside

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Cyprus.png Cyprus // John Karayiannis - One Thing I Should Have Done

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Estonia.png Estonia // Elina Born & Stig Rästa - Goodbye To Yesterday

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/France.png France // Lisa Angell - N'oubliez Pas

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Israel.png Israel // Nadav Guedj - Golden Boy

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Lithuania.png Lithuania // Monika Linkytė & Vaidas Baumila - This Time

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Norway.png Norway // Mørland & Debrah Scarlett - A Monster Like Me

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Serbia.png Serbia // Bojana Stamenov - Beauty Never Lies

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Slovenia.png Slovenia // Maraaya - Here For You

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Sweden.png Sweden // Måns Zelmerlöw - Heroes

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/United_Kingdom.png United Kingdom // Electro Velvet - Still In Love With You

 

Pre-drawn

 

14. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Austria.png Austria - The Makemakes - I Am Yours

 

Second half

 

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Albania.png Albania // Elhaida Dani - I'm Alive

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Azerbaijan.png Azerbaijan // Elnur Hüseynov - Hour Of The Wolf

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Georgia.png Georgia // Nina Sublatti - Warrior

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Germany.png Germany // Ann Sophie - Black Smoke

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Greece.png Greece // Maria Elena Kyriakou - One Last Breath

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Hungary.png Hungary // Boggie - Wars For Nothing

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Italy.png Italy // Il Volo - Grande Amore

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Latvia.png Latvia // Aminata - Love Injected

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Montenegro.png Montenegro // Knez - Adio

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Poland.png Poland // Monika Kuszyńska - In The Name Of Love

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Romania.png Romania // Voltaj - De La Capăt / All Over Again

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Russia.png Russia // Polina Gagarina - A Million Voices

http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Spain.png Spain // Edurne - Amanecer

Go, go, go! One hour or two to make your predictions for the final running order.

 

Unbelievable that the second half contains 95% ballads. Georgia and to a lesser extent Romania and Germany will really benefit!

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01 Serbia

02 Cyprus

03 Belgium

04 Lithuania

05 Armenia

06 Israel

07 Norway

08 United Kingdom

09 Slovenia

10 Estonia

11 Australia

12 France

-AD BREAK-

13 Sweden

14 Austria

15 Romania

16 Albania

17 Poland

18 Greece

19 Georgia

20 Latvia

21 Spain

22 Azerbaijan

23 Germany

24 Montenegro

25 Russia

26 Hungary

27 Italy

 

I THINK THIS COULD WORK

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Georgia and Germany are the real beneficiaries of the draw. Russia is really going to suffer from having all those female ballads around them.

1. Israel

2. United Kingdom

3. France

4. Slovenia

5. Cyprus

6. Serbia

7. Estonia

8. Lithuania

9. Norway

10. Belgium

11. Sweden

12. Armenia

13. Australia

14. Austria

15. Montenegro

16. Albania

17. Spain

18. Germany

19. Hungary

20. Greece

21. Georgia

22. Russia

23. Latvia

24. Poland

25. Romania

26. Azerbaijan

27. Italy

 

We're gonna get the death slot I CAN FEEL IT

That first half is amazing.

 

Second half is going to drag a little bit isn't it?

 

Would LOVE for Georgia to close the show.

01 Australia: Guy Sebastian - Tonight Again

02 Norway: Mørland & Scarlett - A Monster Like Me

03 Slovenia: Maraaya - Here For You

04 France: Lisa Angell - N'oubliez pas

05 Armenia: Genealogy - Face The Shadow

06 Israel: Nadav Guedj - Golden Boy

07 Belgium: Loïc Nottet - Rhythm Inside

08 United Kingdom: Electro Velvet - Still In Love With You

09 Cyprus: John Karayiannis - One Thing I Should Have Done

10 Sweden: Måns Zelmerlöw - Heroes

11 Serbia: Bojana Stamenov - Beauty Never Lies

12 Estonia: Elina & Stig - Goodbye To Yesterday

13 Lithuania: Monika & Vaidas - This Time

14 Austria: The Makemakes - I Am Yours

15 Montenegro: Knez - Adio

16 Latvia: Aminata - Love Injected

17 Greece: Maria Elena Kyriakou - One Last Breath

18 Romania: Voltaj - De la capăt

19 Spain: Edurne - Amanecer

20 Georgia: Nina Sublatti - Warrior

21 Hungary: Boggie - Wars for Nothing

22 Italy: Il Volo - Grande amore

23 Poland: Monika Kuszynska - In the Name of Love

24 Germany: Ann Sophie - Black Smoke

25 Albania: Elhaida Dani - I'm Alive

26 Azerbaijan: Elnur Huseynov - Hour of the Wolf

27 Russia: Polina Gagarina - A Million Voices

 

I really feel Russia will be closing the show.

01. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/United_Kingdom.png United Kingdom // Electro Velvet - Still In Love With You

02. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Cyprus.png Cyprus // John Karayiannis - One Thing I Should Have Done

03. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Lithuania.png Lithuania // Monika Linkytė & Vaidas Baumila - This Time

04. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Armenia.png Armenia // Genealogy - Face The Shadow

05. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Israel.png Israel // Nadav Guedj - Golden Boy

06. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Norway.png Norway // Mørland & Debrah Scarlett - A Monster Like Me

07. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Belgium.png Belgium // Loïc Nottet - Rhythm Inside

08. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/France.png France // Lisa Angell - N'oubliez Pas

09. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Serbia.png Serbia // Bojana Stamenov - Beauty Never Lies

10. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Estonia.png Estonia // Elina Born & Stig Rästa - Goodbye To Yesterday

11. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/au.png Australia // Guy Sebastian - Tonight Again

12. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Slovenia.png Slovenia // Maraaya - Here For You

13. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Sweden.png Sweden // Måns Zelmerlöw - Heroes

14. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Austria.png Austria // The Makemakes - I Am Yours

15. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Hungary.png Hungary // Boggie - Wars For Nothing

16. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Romania.png Romania // Voltaj - De La Capăt / All Over Again

17. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Greece.png Greece // Maria Elena Kyriakou - One Last Breath

18. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Montenegro.png Montenegro // Knez - Adio

19. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Germany.png Germany // Ann Sophie - Black Smoke

20. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Italy.png Italy // Il Volo - Grande Amore

21. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Azerbaijan.png Azerbaijan // Elnur Hüseynov - Hour Of The Wolf

22. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Spain.png Spain // Edurne - Amanecer

23. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Georgia.png Georgia // Nina Sublatti - Warrior

24. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Poland.png Poland // Monika Kuszyńska - In The Name Of Love

25. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Albania.png Albania // Elhaida Dani - I'm Alive

26. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Latvia.png Latvia // Aminata - Love Injected

27. http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Russia.png Russia // Polina Gagarina - A Million Voices

 

So so difficult, such an unevenly distributed draw in terms of tempo!

01 Israel: Nadav Guedj - Golden Boy

02 Cyprus: John Karayiannis - One Thing I Should Have Done

03 Lithuania: Monika & Vaidas - This Time

04 Armenia: Genealogy - Face The Shadow

05 Serbia: Bojana Stamenov - Beauty Never Lies

06 France: Lisa Angell - N'oubliez pas

07 Sweden: Måns Zelmerlöw - Heroes

08 Belgium: Loïc Nottet - Rhythm Inside

09 United Kingdom: Electro Velvet - Still In Love With You

10 Norway: Mørland & Scarlett - A Monster Like Me

11 Estonia: Elina & Stig - Goodbye To Yesterday

12 Australia: Guy Sebastian - Tonight Again

13 Slovenia: Maraaya - Here For You

14 Austria: The Makemakes - I Am Yours

15 Greece: Maria Elena Kyriakou - One Last Breath

16 Italy: Il Volo - Grande amore

17 Latvia: Aminata - Love Injected

18 Albania: Elhaida Dani - I'm Alive

19 Georgia: Nina Sublatti - Warrior

20 Hungary: Boggie - Wars for Nothing

21 Montenegro: Knez - Adio

22 Russia: Polina Gagarina - A Million Voices

23 Germany: Ann Sophie - Black Smoke

24 Poland: Monika Kuszynska - In the Name of Love

25 Romania: Voltaj - De la capăt

26 Azerbaijan: Elnur Huseynov - Hour of the Wolf

27 Spain: Edurne - Amanecer

 

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In terms of pure logistics, I think they need the ad break to set up the Swedish screen so that makes me think they'll put the ad break after song 12 and put Sweden in 13.
Not only there's a lack of genre balance between halves but Lisa and Bojana are the only solo females in the first half while Boggie, Maria, Ann, Edurne, Nina, Monika, Elhaida, Polina and Aminata are in 2nd :lol:

Pasted from t'other one

 

This is about as GOOD I CAN DO with that second half

 

01 Israel: Nadav Guedj - Golden Boy

02 France: Lisa Angell - N'oubliez pas

03 Armenia: Genealogy - Face The Shadow

04 Slovenia: Maraaya - Here For You

05 Lithuania: Monika & Vaidas - This Time

06 Estonia: Elina & Stig - Goodbye To Yesterday

07 Serbia: Bojana Stamenov - Beauty Never Lies

08 Cyprus: John Karayiannis - One Thing I Should Have Done

09 Belgium: Loïc Nottet - Rhythm Inside

10 Norway: Mørland & Scarlett - A Monster Like Me

11 United Kingdom: Electro Velvet - Still In Love With You

12 Australia: Guy Sebastian - Tonight Again

BREAK

13 Sweden: Måns Zelmerlöw - Heroes

14 Austria: The Makemakes - I Am Yours

15 Romania: Voltaj - De la capăt

16 Montenegro: Knez - Adio

17 Albania: Elhaida Dani - I'm Alive

18 Azerbaijan: Elnur Huseynov - Hour of the Wolf

19 Germany: Ann Sophie - Black Smoke

20 Greece: Maria Elena Kyriakou - One Last Breath

BREAK

21 Italy: Il Volo - Grande amore

22 Hungary: Boggie - Wars for Nothing

23 Latvia: Aminata - Love Injected

24 Poland: Monika Kuszynska - In the Name of Love

25 Georgia: Nina Sublatti - Warrior

26 Russia: Polina Gagarina - A Million Voices

27 Spain: Edurne - Amanecer

 

Germany, Poland and Hungary are all NIGHTMARISHLY DULL

Mocked up one myself of:

 

01 Slovenia: Maraaya - Here For You

02 France: Lisa Angell - N'oubliez Pas

03 Lithuania: Monika Linkytė & Vaidas Baumila - This Time

04 United Kingdom: Electro Velvet - Still In Love With You

05 Cyprus: John Karayiannis - One Thing I Should Have Done

06 Serbia: Bojana Stamenov - Beauty Never Lies

07 Norway: Mørland & Debrah Scarlett - A Monster Like Me

08 Israel: Nadav Guedj - Golden Boy

09 Belgium: Loic Notten - Rhythm Inside

10 Sweden: Mans Zelmerlow - Heroes

11 Estonia: Elina Born & Stig Rästa - Goodbye To Yesterday

12 Armenia: Genealogy - Face The Shadow

13 Australia: Guy Sebastian - Tonight Again

14 Austria: The Makemakes - I Am Yours

15 Hungary: Boggie - Wars For Nothing

16 Italy: Il Volo - Grande Amore

17 Greece: Maria Elena Kyriakou - One Last Time

18 Montenegro: Knez - Adio

19 Russia: Polina Gagarina - A Million Voices

20 Georgia: Nina Sublatti - Warrior

21 Poland: Monika Kuszynska - In The Name Of Love

22 Albania: Elhaida Dani - I'm Alive

23 Romania: Voltaj - De la capat

24 Germany: Ann Sophie - Black Smoke

25 Azerbaijan: Elnur Huseynov - Hour Of The Wolf

26 Latvia: Animata - Love Injected

27 Spain: Edurne - Amanecer

I presume not or at least we've never been told they have, otherwise it'd be too obvious who did well in the semis.

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