So imma propose something that will surely satisfy everyone.

 

Anything from LI onwards banned unless you participated in less than 40 contests. In that case the first half of entries is eligible. If any ineligible entries are from the I-L period then they become eligible due to the ~20 contests cut off.

 

Bam.

Anything from LI onwards banned unless you participated in less than 40 contests. In that case the first half of entries is eligible. If any ineligible entries are from the I-L period then they become eligible due to the ~20 contests cut off.

psyduck.gif

 

(I think this, Bra and Klumzee's ideas are essentially the same thing anyway or least v familiar~)

So imma propose something that will surely satisfy everyone.

 

Anything from LI onwards banned unless you participated in less than 40 contests. In that case the first half of entries is eligible. If any ineligible entries are from the I-L period then they become eligible due to the ~20 contests cut off.

 

Bam.

 

Yes this is pretty much exactly what I suggested (including the amendment I made in response to your post) ~

 

In the simplest (aka least wordy) terms:

1-40 entries = allowed anything in the first half of your entries

41+ entries = allowed anything but the last 20 contests

 

(this is pretty much the same as Klumzee's idea except slightly tweaked as well)

psyduck.gif

 

(I think this, Bra and Klumzee's ideas are essentially the same thing anyway or least v familiar~)

hen they were proposing to have the first half of your entries to be eligible, whether you participated only between 2008 and 2010 or all 74 times. I am proposing the L contest cut off. So if you only participated between, say, X and XL, you will have ALL of your entries to choose from. And that rule was made to ensure nobody has advantage due to their entry being freshest in mind etc. So it's pointless to ban anything in the I-L region really.

Yes this is pretty much exactly what I suggested (including the amendment I made in response to your post) ~

 

In the simplest (aka least wordy) terms:

1-40 entries = allowed anything in the first half of your entries

41+ entries = allowed anything but the last 20 contests

 

(this is pretty much the same as Klumzee's idea except slightly tweaked as well)

Not really. Read above~

Oh I see what you mean but is anyone who's been inactive for 2 years really likely to be entering this? Lol

Oh I see what you mean but is anyone who's been inactive for 2 years really likely to be entering this? Lol

You never know :o

 

((ghosty where you at :( ))

 

(((tom kay did rejoin us so bam)))

And at least offer an explanation so we can understand where the rules have come from.

Lee's idea was pretty much this: "It would be like a special BJSC where each country can send one song that they've sent to BJSC in the last 12-24 months with winners excluded."

 

What YBO is trying to do is exclude the winners AND as much from the past 24 months as is possible. So it isn't Lee's idea exactly but it's taking the bulk of it and making a few tweaks. Mainly because the most discoveries will be made by ignoring the past 24 months rather than focusing on the past 24 months.

 

In an ideal world, we'd have nothing from the past 2 years in the contest as the aim is to rediscover old classics. That however isn't fair to about half of our participants, so to allow them to take part, but still trying to keep as much new stuff out as is possible, the graduated system came into play. The initial scale was a bit unfair on those right on the line, as was pointed out, so it was revised to 3 month intervals. And assuming my maths was correct, only the last two levels lost out on eligible entries. (by 1 and 4, but they were raised from 24+ to 33+ and 36+)

 

I was trying to filter out as much from 2015 and 2014 as possible. Everything from this year is going to be revisited at TBO anyway and we've not long had the 2014 wrap up. So my theory was that a lot of this would still be reasonably fresh.

 

Looking at it, Klumzee's system when you apply it to the 3 month windows is more or less similar give or take 0.5 of a contest on the windows that end with an odd number. It's just written simpler.

 

So rewriting to make it clearer, and ensuring that every single level matches the 50% of entries ineligible at most principle of the Klumzee system (instead of the 60-something% the current system peaks at) we end up with:

 

 

If it has been less than 6 contests since your debut - No restrictions

 

If it has been more than 6 contests since your debut, but less than 9 - You may not enter anything from the Last 3 contests.

 

If it has been more than 6 contests since your debut, but less than 12 - You may not enter anything from the Last 4 contests.

 

If it has been more than 12 contests since your debut, but less than 15 - You may not enter anything from the Last 6 contests.

 

If it has been more than 12 contests since your debut, but less than 18 - You may not enter anything from the Last 7 contests.

 

If it has been more than 12 contests since your debut, but less than 21 - You may not enter anything from the Last 9 contests.

 

If it has been more than 12 contests since your debut, but less than 24 - You may not enter anything from the Last 10 contests.

 

If it has been more than 24 contests since your debut, but less than 27 - You may not enter anything from the Last 12 contests.

 

If it has been more than 24 contests since your debut, but less than 30 - You may not enter anything from the Last 13 contests.

 

If it has been more than 24 contests since your debut, but less than 33 - You may not enter anything from the Last 15 contests.

 

If it has been more than 36 contests since your debut - You may not enter anything from the Last 24 contests.

 

Is this more agreeable to all?

Now if that is an acceptable meet in the middle compromise then great, we shall draw a line in the sand and I will clear out the thread and we can refocus on the contest and being excited about it.

That looks more agreeable but the brackets are defined confusingly - may I suggest this which is exactly the same but easier to follow:

 

1-5 contests = no restrictions

6-8 contests = last 3 banned

9-11 contests = last 4 banned

12-14 contests = last 6 banned

15-17 contests = last 7 banned

18-20 contests = last 9 banned

21-23 contests = last 10 banned

24-26 contests = last 12 banned

27-29 contests = last 13 banned

30-32 contests = last 15 banned

~there seems to be a grey area here~

37+ contests = last 24 banned

Is this more agreeable to all?

Definitely seems moreso to me! I do apologise for my wordy post but i felt i had to say something because it didn't seem fair. But thank you for taking that and what others have said on board, because this now looks very agreeable. Looking forward to a very exciting/unique contest :D ~

 

(now to work out what to send, lol)

I'd welcome a rule (I think Bre/Klumzee might have already said this so I'll just echo them but it's too late to being doing maths) that just halves the number of contests you've been in and you can't select any from the latter half, so in my case with 32, nothing from my last 16 contests, I think that sounds fairer to me as the rules in the first post are a bit confusing and judging by that, I'd only have 10/32 entries to choose from which doesn't feel reflective of my BJSC 'career' and I don't know if I'd even bother participating if that was the case.

 

edit: sorry bit of a late reply, yes those new rules sound a lot more agreeable!

Edited April 14, 201510 yr by Chez Wombat