Owen only got about 24k at The Independent, which is peanuts when you consider he was basically their flagship columnist. The Guardian burn through cash though so I'd be shocked if he wasn't getting a fair chunk more now.

 

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Brett, why do you think Owen's intellectually dishonest? I think he's being schtum right now and probably evolving into Alastair Campbell by the second, but as high profile democratic socialists go I think he's by far the most tolerable.

Owen Jones declared his own salary at the Independent, and did so with pride. I assume he is getting more at the Guardian, but it might not be a great deal more.

Brett, why do you think Owen's intellectually dishonest? I think he's being schtum right now and probably evolving into Alastair Campbell by the second, but as high profile democratic socialists go I think he's by far the most tolerable.

 

He has a tendency to misrepresent figures and research in order to fit his overarching positions. Jeremy Duns (who admits that he agrees with many of the positions of Jones) looked at some of the research he carried out for his book, and found quite a lot of it to be misleading.

Ha! I hadn't even noticed that piece the first time around, but it's not too surprising. Johann Hari basically took Owen under his wing for a good year or two, and Owen is his more Labour-affiliated successor in all but name.

Labour is now ahead of the Tories in all national polls and Corbyn's grass roots movement and momentum keep on growing.

Edited March 26, 20169 yr by Virginia's Walls

This will be a landslide.

 

At least in votes now the Tories have gerrymandered to their liking.

Edited March 26, 20169 yr by Virginia's Walls

Labour is now ahead of the Tories in all national polls

Uh, no. There was a one point lead in one poll. The Tories have been ahead of Labour in all the others since.

Hah took you a while to retort that pro Corbyn news Qass!!!

Less a retort, more a dose of realism.

 

Given the total disaster of the budget, and the ongoing fails over the junior doctors, schools and now the Steel industry - even a TUB OF LARD could be ahead of the polls against the Conservatives.

Hah took you a while to retort that pro Corbyn news Qass!!!

Well it wasn't so much news as an active lie - Labour isn't ahead in all polls!

Less a retort, more a dose of realism.

 

Given the total disaster of the budget, and the ongoing fails over the junior doctors, schools and now the Steel industry - even a TUB OF LARD could be ahead of the polls against the Conservatives.

Talking of tubs of lard, I spent rather a lot of Monday watching the 1966 election results programme on BBC Parliament :D Among the politicians interviewed was a very young Roy Hattersley.

He got reelected in 66 didn't he?

 

I forgot all about it - is it on the iplayer?

Corbyn won the PR battle yesterday with the steel controversy being able to go out to Port Talbot while alot of the tories were just getting back from holidays!

Wonderful that he's decided to finally try. Would be nice to see him do it for an issue which isn't restricted to about five constituencies.

He got reelected in 66 didn't he?

 

I forgot all about it - is it on the iplayer?

Yes, it is :D

Yes, it is :D

 

Must download it, i love the bank holiday election repeats!!

Wonderful that he's decided to finally try. Would be nice to see him do it for an issue which isn't restricted to about five constituencies.

 

That sounds like a bit of a positive remark about Jezza for you Qass :P

Must download it, i love the bank holiday election repeats!!

They're always a good watch for political nerds :D Don't expect to see many women in the programme, apart from when they are being patronised in vox pops.

I definately come under the political nerd category lol.

 

I watched the 1964 one last year as well as the first one they recorded ever in 1955. Gives me the shivers when they casually say Mrs.Thatcher relected for Finchly back then - little did they know what was to come with her simple election to a seat.

 

In the 64 one people like Nigel Lawson were in the commentators corner speaking from the view of a Daily Telegraph reporter - little did we know!

Edited March 31, 20169 yr by Steve201

Lawson was in the '66 version as well.