No idea on that one sorry. Whatever it is, this race has a habit of being completely the opposite though if past events are anything to go by.

I have read somewhere that tmrrw could be rain :D

Sounds good in theory but with what happened last season they are only going to be even more cautious than usual so I could see a lengthy period behind the safety chewing away the laps before they'll start on a practically bone dry track anyway :/

Probably the first race in a while that has actually sent me back to sleep.

 

What an embarrassment it must be for Alonso and Button with their McLaren-Honda. Will they both be at McLaren next year?

 

 

Sure that wasn't just the early start time? ;)

 

Must admit it was highly uneventful post lap one but of course I'm pleased about the result. McLaren are a lost cause now, the embarrassment has turned into complete apathy.

I think that I saw earlier today that Ron Dennis has confimed both Alonso and Button for next season.

Merc has whined about the lack of coverage their cars got during the race saying they don't know why they wouldn't be shown.

 

I can answer Lauda's complaint for him!!! :magic: Your two cars didn't get shown because your cars have turned F1 into a boring processional SHITFEST and there is far better things to watch further back than watch Nico and dickhead.

Merc has whined about the lack of coverage their cars got during the race saying they don't know why they wouldn't be shown.

 

I can answer Lauda's complaint for him!!! :magic: Your two cars didn't get shown because your cars have turned F1 into a boring processional SHITFEST and there is far better things to watch further back than watch Nico and dickhead.

:lol:

 

Actually just read the Bernie Ecclestone blocked the showing supposedly because Mercedes don't want to give engine to Red Bull for next year. :wacko:

It's hardly Mercedes' fault they're brilliant and everyone else is miles behind. If anything the likes of Ferrari, Red Bull & Williams should be blamed for not making more competitive cars.

 

Although I do agree they can't whine about lack of coverage. What attraction is there to effectively be watching testing with one car out in front completely on its own...

If this race was entertaining. I don't think I would have fallen sleep during the middle of the race. The race was over for the win on the first lap. At least the midfield do provide some entertainment. I can't see a year like 2012 again where seven drivers won the first seven races or 9 different winners in 2003 or even 11 different winners in 1982.

 

I think the points system should be changed to 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 because the points system really does make a mockery of the all-time points scorers' list as only Alain Prost is in the Top10 without the 25 to 1 points system.

 

 

I wish too that we had more winners like in 2012 or 2003.

 

I don't think though the points system is bad, in fact it's quite good also on the lower top 10 positions can score good points.

 

10-9-8 wouldn't be fair in my opinion, because the winners wouldn't be awarded for their wins too much and for example a consistent number 3 finisher could win the championship without even winning or being second, while some who get more wins but fail to finish (for example because of technical issues) 2 or 3 times couldn't win the championship. That would be unfair. A championship winner should win some races and that's why there's a bigger gap between first and second place.

Also in the past where only the top 6 gained points were the gap bigger between first and second (10 points to 6).

 

I would also give points for the pole position and the one who set the fastest time of the race (like in Indy car).

What would be your ideal points system then people?

 

 

10-9-8 wouldn't be fair in my opinion, because the winners wouldn't be awarded for their wins too much and for example a consistent number 3 finisher could win the championship without even winning or being second, while some who get more wins but fail to finish (for example because of technical issues) 2 or 3 times couldn't win the championship. That would be unfair. A championship winner should win some races and that's why there's a bigger gap between first and second place.

Also in the past where only the top 6 gained points were the gap bigger between first and second (10 points to 6).

 

I would also give points for the pole position and the one who set the fastest time of the race (like in Indy car).

 

I agree with your point of view, Ben. It would be unfair if someone who finished 3rd or 4th won the world championship without winning.

 

This is what the all-time points scorers would look like if they had the current points system from the start:

 

http://formula1.markwessel.com/

I think the points system should be changed to 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 because the points system really does make a mockery of the all-time points scorers' list as only Alain Prost is in the Top10 without the 25 to 1 points system.

One more thing that came to my mind, in the past there were less races per year than now that makes also a difference.

 

And anyway the points system is not there to "serve" the all-time points scorers' list. I think those who are permanent followers of F1 are aware of the changes in the points system and don't think that the fresh points system makes a mockery of the all-time points scorers' list in fact they appreciate that Prost is still in the top 10 with a different system where he could score less points / race. :D

One more thing that came to my mind, in the past there were less races per year than now that makes also a difference.

 

And anyway the points system is not there to "serve" the all-time points scorers' list. I think those who are permanent followers of F1 are aware of the changes in the points system and don't think that the fresh points system makes a mockery of the all-time points scorers' list in fact they appreciate that Prost is still in the top 10 with a different system where he could score less points / race. :D

 

I definitely am a permanent follower of F1. I'm sure the points system will change in the next few years.

 

I agree with you, Ben.

 

There were 16/17 races back in the 90s and until 2003.

 

It's definitely a remarkable feat that Prost is still in the Top10 when there was a different system. Probably me just being silly. Sorry.

 

 

I once thought that points for pole & fastest lap would be a good idea but then you would end up with a situation with drivers with nothing to lose putting on a new set of options with one lap to go and blitzing it round which would be a bit silly.

I definitely am a permanent follower of F1. I'm sure the points system will change in the next few years.

 

I agree with you, Ben.

 

There were 16/17 races back in the 90s and until 2003.

 

It's definitely a remarkable feat that Prost is still in the Top10 when there was a different system. Probably me just being silly. Sorry.

No no, you're not silly, you just started a conversation :D

 

Also interesting on the site you linked, that in the top 10 Ayrton Senna and David Coulthard are also in the top 10 (if I'm checking the right list of course :lol:)

 

Is there a list of champions from year to year? (or the top 3 from year to year)?

I once thought that points for pole & fastest lap would be a good idea but then you would end up with a situation with drivers with nothing to lose putting on a new set of options with one lap to go and blitzing it round which would be a bit silly.

If they would have one more new set of new options towards the end of the race (which I think they wouldn't have :lol:)

If they would have one more new set of new options towards the end of the race (which I think they wouldn't have :lol:)

 

Well they would keep one in reserve I'd imagine just for the bonus point(s). McLaren would definitely be doing this as there would be no point wasting a set in Quali when they're always near the back anyway.

 

Points for pole could work however, but after the uproar over awarding double points at the last race of last season I think they're best to keep away from tinkering for now :lol:

Well they would keep one in reserve I'd imagine just for the bonus point(s). McLaren would definitely be doing this as there would be no point wasting a set in Quali when they're always near the back anyway.

 

Points for pole could work however, but after the uproar over awarding double points at the last race of last season I think they're best to keep away from tinkering for now :lol:

I don't think any teams would save a set of new tyres to set the fastest lap at the end of the race for 1 point (I wouldn't give much more than 1 for that, or even half a point?) and as far as I know positions lower than #10 are still important for the teams because they don't get points but still it counts in the classification for the championship ties for example (or also they get more money if they finish 11th and not 13th).

Anyway I would still be shocked if especially McLaren would set the fastest lap with new tyres... they are so slow this year it's criminal :rofl:

 

Double points were from evil... worst idea in the F1 history imo :wacko: :lol:

Got an email from Renault Press 7 minutes ago confirming that they have signed a letter of intent to purchase 'a controlling stake' in Lotus F1 (aka the former Renault Works team.)

 

Very happy that after a year of absence I can go back to supporting Lotus/Renault again.