f***ing CACKLING at the brutality of it all. poor ricks girlfriend.

The show for me has got so sloppy with certain things. It went from day to night in about 15 seconds, unless Rick and co walked around the ASZ for an hour off camera. Daryl kills a guy that no one sees or hears (ok I could maybe believe that) but the body is lay in direct view of the bikers. Glenn has yet another near death escape, it is getting a bit ridiculous now and each time that bit more implausible.

 

There was a big build up to the Wolves guys and how last year ended on a cliff hanger with him taking the doctor hostage, for a pretty lame outcome of him being shot by Carol.

 

I'm actually glad Jessie and her family died, what a drag they have been since being introduced.

 

The show needs a major death to happen, the main 6 or 7 characters are basically immune from death at this point and the whole premise of the show was no one is safe.

 

The father Gabriel thing was too much from me, he went from a coward who at one point was grassing on the gang to suddely risking his life to fight along side them. If they wanted to redeem him, him keeping Judith safe would have surely been enough.

 

Rosita is so wooden I'm rooting for her death so much right now.

 

I mean don't get me wrong it was fast paced and intense but I feel like the actual quality to which they try to achieve this has slipped.

The day to night thing was rather odd, indeed. I'm not sure if there's been a proper explanation offered for that. Like, how far did they need to walk! :lol: They were walking at a decent pace, wherever it was they were headed couldn't have taken that long to get to (I can't actually recall what their plan was, where were they walking to? Lol).

 

Some things that were mentioned in critical articles about the episode:

 

Sam was calling for his mom in the cliff hanger at the end of the midseason finale (suggesting he was about to freak out and draw major attention to them all, almost immediately after exiting the house), but then when it got back to them in the midseason premiere he was (relatively) fine, and silent... and then was for a while, until he suddenly freaked out again. This wasn't very smoothly done.

 

Other points focus on unrealistic reactions that the characters have, mainly about them standing still... such as Jessie staying rooted to the spot to witness Sam being overwhelmed by the walkers - some articles suggest that as a mother she'd have instinctively leapt in to try and drag them off him (even though this would certainly have resulted in her own death). Another point raised is that any of the characters on that walk could have quite easily dragged Sam along as soon as he stopped, particularly as they were holding hands... or even picked him up as a quick last resort. His death was easily preventable, if the characters were acting at all rationally, so the writers could have thought harder about how his death could have been convincing and unavoidable.

 

Like Sammy says, Daryl managing to kill that guy (and get stabbed) silently & unseen was highly improbable, including actually getting out the rocket launcher (even it being stored at the back of the truck is a bit farfetched, apparently). Overlooking those details, it was still a satisfying scene. :cool:

 

People are a bit "hmm" that Rick would have trusted Gabriel with his daughter, based on his past form. A more realistic way to get Judith to safety in the church would have been for them all to walk there together, have a breather and then venture out again (realistically they'd probably have left Jessie, Sam & Ron there too).

 

Oh and I agree about Glenn. He's smarter than that, he allowed himself to be backed up against the fence. Also arguably he didn't even need to create a diversion at all. :kink:

 

Although be quite honest, none of these issues affected my enjoyment of the episode at all, even though I agree that there was a fair bit of sloppy writing... the action, intensity and overall drama was really enjoyable.

Agreed with Jay, really. Still can't get over how amazing it was despite those criticisms and flaws. The whole walker ambush on Sam and co could have all been down to freezing in that moment in shock or whatever. So much went off and it was fantastic.

It always to me comes down to pacing of things with the walking dead. They had a 90 minute episode with Morgan in some cabin with a goat (I never actually finished that episode) but the first ep of the 2nd half of the season with a whole family killed, the resolving of the Wolves storyline, the resolution of the doctor being taken hostage, seemingly the end of the wall fallen plot (I assume it will be repaired now) and Daryl and co getting out of a dodgy situation in 60 minutes.

 

It is going to leave only the Negan plot really left for this half of the season and from all accounts he doesn't show up until the end of the season.

 

Oh and we have the really weird Carol/Morgan thing, which just gets more strange and hard to watch as it goes on.

 

Watch there be 4 filler episodes now.

Apparently there's something major happening in this Sunday's ep. TVLine is urging people to watch it live or completely avoid the internet until they do. So, I guess someone dies. Glenn or Maggie? Better not be Carol or Michonne.

Please let it finally be Glenn and Rosita and Eugene.

Not sure about this episode. Some good moments but sloppy writing, normally smart characters doing really stupid things simply to drive the plot where the writers wanted it to go.

 

Worse still, it was predictable and, in the end, played it safe with a resolution that began as a hack and slash video game before climaxing with a near deus ex machina.

Best scene of the whole episode was easily the very last, with Rick finally realising that there needs to be more than simple brutality in the world. He's come full circle, just in time for Negan to screw it all up.

 

I thought the episode was so-so. Brilliant start (have I said I'm in love with Abraham?) and totally unexpected

bit where the kid gets killed/eaten and his mother too - and Rick chopping off her arm to release Carl

but let down for me by the meaningless talk between Enid and Glen (who I'm getting increasingly pissed off with - I really hope they kill him off soon). I am glad that Father Gabriel seemed to at last do the right thing. On the whole though - I think I'm watching out of habit now - not because I really enjoy the show.

Please let it finally be Glenn and Rosita and Eugene.

No-one would care if Rosita or Eugene died.

 

I'd rather Glenn lived and Maggie died. I don't want them to repeat the young baby story.

However, I suspect it will be neither.

 

Thematically Morgan would make sense. Carol has it in for him, and Rick has returned to a more positive outlook, it remains to be seen where he can go from here.

No-one would care if Rosita or Eugene died.

 

I'd rather Glenn lived and Maggie died. I don't want them to repeat the young baby story.

However, I suspect it will be neither.

 

Thematically Morgan would make sense. Carol has it in for him, and Rick has returned to a more positive outlook, it remains to be seen where he can go from here.

 

Isn't that they way of the walking dead these days though, kill off secondary characters that have been around a couple of seasons and make it seem like something huge. Even Morgan wouldn't be that big given how they have destroyed his character and no one wants him around any more any way.

I feel like they are purposely ruining Glenn's character so that they can kill him off with less backlash. Sadly I do think he will go soon which is a shame because he is still one of my favorites. Michonne has really faded into the background as well so I wouldn't be surprised if they offed her as ridiculous as that would be. I think Rick, Carol, Daryl, and Carl are immune, at least for now. All the others are basically expendable at this point, especially Morgan, Gabriel, and Eugene. I actually think they could do a lot with Rosita's character but I don't see it happening.

It would break my heart if Michonne was killed off! :snif: I'm hoping her character returns to the forefront soon.

I agree with Zach in that Rosita's character could offer a hell of a lot more if they utilised her more. However, Eugene dying would be a mistake. He has quite a "cult" following, although I don't really know where his character can go from here now that he's been exposed. But, I have a feeling if anyone is to die, it'll be Maggie. She's cut her hair in reality and apparently "there's a reason in the show" as to why she's been able to do it. I can't see it just being because she cuts her hair in the show...

 

But we shall see. I really don't think Michonne is going either.

Michonne is the best character in it. They cannot kill her.

Seriously Rosita is the worst actress the show has, she walks and holds herself like a model at a comic convention being paid to dress up. Her speech in the last episode was beyond bad and she just adds nothing to the show at all.

 

It is a shame Tara is pregnant as she was bringing a lighter tone to things and was actually far more interesting and the possible relationship with the doctor could have been fun to explore.

So... RIP Truck.

 

I didn't expect it to go there but I'm glad it did. I've been expecting this for so long that I believed they'd never actually do it.

Blarghhhh that felt so unnatural, wont spoil for those who haven't seen it yet.

So they went for a lightly comic episode, which I can only assume was set 'some time' after last weeks, as nobody (least of all Rick) gave a damn about everyone who died.

Didn't really work on any level until the very last line of dialogue.

It also had another plot line where Spencer and Carl didn't speak or explain themselves like a normal human being would all for a 15 second pay off which wasn't a pay off.

2 months had passed, apparently. In terms of tone, it's an episode that was needed, but as an episode it was all a bit "ehhhh". Season 2 filler-esque. I love how they seem to have gone back to "normality" (well, as normal as can be in this world) because we just know there is a threat right around the corner, ready to tear shit up! :lol: