Boris should remove the whip from him for now, but start having the background of newly elected Labour MP's closely looked into as well... ;)

 

Like a dictator? :) The attack dog press alreasy hound Labour mps enough.

Like a dictator? :) The attack dog press alreasy hound Labour mps enough.

 

Surely you're not hinting that we look closely into Tory MP's backgrounds, but leave Labour MP's alone? :huh:

Surely you're not hinting that we look closely into Tory MP's backgrounds, but leave Labour MP's alone? :huh:

Your post gave the impression you were suggesting John son should order civil servants to investigate the background of Labour MPs. I would hope civil servants would refuse any such order and refer the matter to the appropriate authorities.

Your post gave the impression you were suggesting John son should order civil servants to investigate the background of Labour MPs. I would hope civil servants would refuse any such order and refer the matter to the appropriate authorities.

 

I dare say MI5/6 know all about them anyway, after all, that's *their* job. ;)

 

Back to the point though - how did the press find out about the story in the first place, and how long in the past was it?

 

The general principle being, everyone has skeletons in their closet, but should they be eternally 'damned' for actions which may have happened decades ago?

 

 

 

Edited January 12, 20205 yr by vidcapper

I dare say MI5/6 know all about them anyway, after all, that's *their* job. ;)

 

Back to the point though - how did the press find out about the story in the first place, and how long in the past was it?

 

The point being, everyone has skeletons in their closet, but should they be eternally 'damned' for actions which may have happened decades ago?

He ended his association with the company last month. As I said earlier, this is not something from the distant past.

Well, this didn’t take long. Just a month since the election and we find that one of the new Tory MPs used to make his living as a pimp.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51075699

 

"Jess Phillips, the Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley, has now launched a petition calling on the prime minister to withdraw the whip from Mr Wallis.

Her petition says: "Let's be clear: sugar daddy is a euphemism for something deeply ugly: exploitation of women by powerful men."

 

What evidence, other than her own feminist agenda, does she have that any such women were unwilling participants? :mellow:

 

Is there any reason you are trolling us over this in particular?

"Jess Phillips, the Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley, has now launched a petition calling on the prime minister to withdraw the whip from Mr Wallis.

Her petition says: "Let's be clear: sugar daddy is a euphemism for something deeply ugly: exploitation of women by powerful men."

 

What evidence, other than her own feminist agenda, does she have that any such women were unwilling participants? :mellow:

 

Do you think that it is a positive thing for society that there exists a common dynamic whereby powerful men hire the services of young and inexperienced women to be their companions as, in effect, a trophy, regardless of any women being willing participants in such an arrangement?

Is there any reason you are trolling us over this in particular?

 

Are you seriously accusing me of 'trolling' on this to try and get me banned? :huh:

 

I asked a genuine question as to whether she had actual evidence to support her allegations, there was no trolling involved.

Do you think that it is a positive thing for society that there exists a common dynamic whereby powerful men hire the services of young and inexperienced women to be their companions as, in effect, a trophy, regardless of any women being willing participants in such an arrangement?

 

Their willingness is the *crucial* issue here.

 

If they are willing, then there is no problem - if they are not, then that is exploitation and hardly a positive thing!

 

Those cannot be real opinions. It is patently obvious that preying upon a disparate power dynamic between young women and rich men is explotation. Or is this your "devil's advocate" style of trolling?

Those cannot be real opinions. It is patently obvious that preying upon a disparate power dynamic between young women and rich men is explotation. Or is this your "devil's advocate" style of trolling?

 

:rolleyes:

Their willingness is the *crucial* issue here.

 

If they are willing, then there is no problem - if they are not, then that is exploitation and hardly a positive thing!

 

You can still be exploited even if you appear willing. I have to say it seems quite disturbing that you are defending this.

You can still be exploited even if you appear willing. I have to say it seems quite disturbing that you are defending this.

 

I am not defending this, merely pointing out that proof is needed for allegations like this.

 

Also, how can you tell the difference between only 'appearing to be willing' and actually being willing?

Their willingness is the *crucial* issue here.

 

If they are willing, then there is no problem - if they are not, then that is exploitation and hardly a positive thing!

 

Um...no? Willingness or not he still played his part in this and enabled it

 

Honestly.

Um...no? Willingness or not he still played his part in this and enabled it

 

Honestly.

 

So how would you feel if a young woman went out independently 'gold-digging' for a rich older man - is that OK? :unsure:

 

What about a dating website set up for the same purpose?

Edited January 13, 20205 yr by vidcapper

So how would you feel if a young woman went out independently 'gold-digging' for a rich older man - is that OK? :unsure:

 

What about a dating website set up for the same purpose?

 

 

Talk about twisting things around. :lol: Have I ever said that I would be OK with that? Of course not.

 

That's not what has happened here though. Regardless of whether they "asked for it"(which we have absolutely no proof of, just your speculation and over-willingness to give a white, male, right wing MP too much benefit of the doubt :rolleyes: - quelle suprise) he enabled the situation and allowed it to happen and and as others have said there is a power dynamic at play.

Edited January 13, 20205 yr by mald487

That's not what has happened here though. Regardless of whether they "asked for it"(which we have absolutely no proof of, just your speculation and over-willingness to give a white, male, right wing MP too much benefit of the doubt :rolleyes: - quelle suprise) he enabled the situation and allowed it to happen and and as others have said there is a power dynamic at play.

 

You make him sound like Jeffrey Epstein. :o

Lie-detector tests planned for convicted terrorists freed on licence

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/j...reed-on-licence

 

Seems a sensible precaution for all prisoners about to be released. :mellow:

Lie-detector tests planned for convicted terrorists freed on licence

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/j...reed-on-licence

 

Seems a sensible precaution for all prisoners about to be released. :mellow:

Given that lie detectors are not considered accurate enough to be used as evidence in court, it is a stupid idea.