My respect for Nicky has gone down a bit as he's been "quoted" as suggesting political voting is to blame for his exit. I'm aware he could've been misquoted but the quotes they use in the article below do suggest he's blaming it to an extent.

 

'A lot of western European countries are out' - Nicky Byrne suggests Eurovision exit may be down to political voting

My respect for Nicky has gone down a bit as he's been "quoted" as suggesting political voting is to blame for his exit. I'm aware he could've been misquoted but the quotes they use in the article below do suggest he's blaming it to an extent.

 

'A lot of western European countries are out' - Nicky Byrne suggests Eurovision exit may be down to political voting

 

They took that out of that interview on his show, and yes he was misquoted - in fact, the headline is twisted, you see it in the text that he doesn't blame anyone, it is the people who are suggesting this.

 

I didn't get impression that he thinks he didn't win because of bloc voting, he just gave opinion that he thinks possibly Sweden will win because of it - he never once implied or said he didn't get in because of eastern countries, other people are talking about it.

 

Just like it was posted in the interview, he said: a lot of people telling me this morning they all vote for each other to make sure they're in the final because they're all against Russia. Whether you can believe all this type of stuff or not I'm not sure. (..)

 

Plus, he said numerous times in the interviews before that the bloc voting has its effect but at the end of the day, the best song always wins.

 

All he said that for some reason people didn't like his song, I don't think he blamed anyone. He simply said he thinks they gave a good shot but it wasn't enough.

 

So Nicky is definitely not blaming anyone.

 

I hate that newspapers twist words like this.

Here is another interview after everything - and again he pointed out "I don't know if it is true but I have been told" - he is not blaming anyone in my opinion.

 

http://evoke.ie/showbiz/eurovision-twins-bawling-nicky-byrne

Edited May 14, 20169 yr by zeze88

15th was his result in the semi, i didnt expect such a bad outcome, 31 points. I think its our worst result ever in a semi :cry:

15th was his result in the semi, i didnt expect such a bad outcome, 31 points. I think its our worst result ever in a semi :cry:

 

Yeah, I'm surprised too. I don't really get it - Looking at the results in Semi 1, even San Marino got better points (49 and they were 12th) and I at least thought they had a singer who was worse than Nicky and the song was even more cheesy. It was like a circus and the guy basically recited the lyrics.

 

Sunlight is not masterpiece of course but it is not that bad either in my opinion. I think he had negative press the moment the song was announced though, everyone just went on and on about his limited voice. I know I am biased of course but I don't think he has such a bad voice either like some claim he has.

 

Somebody posted just his vocals on the semi final:

 

 

So yeah, listening to that again, you can't say he didn't sing it well for his standards - again, if you don't like his voice even in the studio version, that is as completely different matter. The only thing that was a bit off is near the end in the last 20 seconds when he started running around the stage greeting the crowd so he was out of breath but the rest was perfectly fine.

 

So there is nothing more he could have done vocally-wise. I guess be less nervous but even my Nina who has an amazing voice messed up a few notes in the semis and was even worse in the final. Pressure certainly gets to you when you think 200 million people watch you on TV. After all, we are talking about a guy who is basically an inexperienced singer because he had 8 minutes of solo in all of Westlife discography, you get more consistent with more experience - Mark was absolutely dreadful live in the early years :lol:

 

It is funny though to read a lot of comments below his Youtube video that he should have qualified. Even Graham Norton on BBC while commentating the final said the same thing few times . Plus, the video passed 1 million views.

Edited May 16, 20169 yr by zeze88

Considering he's not the most amazing of singers I thought his performance was fantastic - Surprised it did so poorly!

Nicky done the best he could based on his own talents, the problem was the song, it had nothing stand out about it and thats essentially what let him down, he has said he has looked back on his performance and was happy with it and could do no more so im glad he can take that from it. With how RTE decided the entry this year they needed a much stronger song, with Nicky doing so bad rte are getting even more of a bigger backlash than they did when it was announced.

 

I strongly believe the Eurovision team at RTE are absolutely clueless to the competition and are not watching the competition itself. Of course the other problem is they may not be receiving a high quality of songs but if this is the case they need to look elsewhere to get the talent on board. The Eurovision team are under pressure for next year considering we have not qualified 3 years in a row so they really need to get their act together.

 

Im still flabbergasted by the horrendous staging of Nickys song, i think it was right up there with the worst staging of this years competition. A revamp is badly needed and with what we are seeing i think i could do a better job myself.

I just feel like it's really difficult to do Eurovision well in Ireland. The country has all the problems the UK is currently having in that there's a huge lack of respect for the contest endemic to the population which means there's very little interest in taking part from the country's talent, but there's also a ton of other problems the UK doesn't have to deal with. Ireland is comparatively tiny so there's simply a much smaller talent pool to get good songs/singers from before you even get into the lack of interest and on top of that there just isn't a huge amount of money to put into the contest, which you can see from how cheap the staging looked this year and every other year.

 

Ireland is a country with very little musical talent (sorry but it's true) and the poor reputation the contest has here means that what little talent we do have has no interest in taking part. There's just nowhere to get a good entry from. Add to that the people in charge of our entry seeming to be probably the most out of touch in the continent (can anyone name a 21st century Irish entry that actually sounded modern at the time?) and it's just... impossible to imagine where a successful entry can come from.

 

'Lipstick' was a complete fluke moment and we don't know when we'll get lucky like that again. Countries like the UK only need an attitude change to do well in the contest because they have so many resources to draw upon when they do decide to take it seriously. Ireland is massively limited in that capacity, though. Even in terms of the management - the songs would at least be better off if we had good people in charge of staging but the Irish staging is always woeful.

 

Nicky there being a bit delusional about his apparently amazing performance and blaming the "evil East" for his DNQ, saying that the bottom 4 in the semi were all Western countries - conveniently forgetting that Albania and Slovenia were below Norway (and one below Ireland) in the supposed all Western bottom 4. Real shame he's taken this tone!

To be fair to Nicky, he never said it IS because of politics, just that it is peculiar how Western countries didn't qualify. He repeated many times "I don't know the answer".

 

And with the limited voice he has, he did the best he could, apart from the last 20 seconds he sang it like he did in the studio version. So yes, for HIS standards, it was great. Besides, no wonder people around him said he was great, that happens every time.

 

It is not fair to blame everything on his voice, Frans has even worse vocal abilities and Sweden managed to end up at no. 5. The staging was bad though, it is like no effort was put into it.

 

And after seeing everyone again on the final night, I think he should have qualified, there were at least 5 countries in his semis that I thought they are not going to go through.

 

I really do think that he would have qualified if the staging was more professional, more creative - not so bland really.

Staging this, staging that. Staging has next to nothing to do with the song success at Eurovision. It's literally all about the song. Unless the budget is like the gross product of Malta with fireworks and ice ranks and gold fountains and shit. Frans and Amir had nothing on the stage and they are both top six. So let's stop with this staging excuse. His song was bad. Period.

Staging has next to nothing to do with the song success at Eurovision.

Are you drunk or are you trolling?

 

I mean you're correct that everything about the Irish entry was bad but the song sucking is not the only point that matters. The stage was both ugly and boring while most of the songs that did very well had excellent staging (and yes that includes the simpler ones like France and Sweden - just because they're not complex doesn't mean they're not good).

I didn't mind the staging bye

Absolute tosser. There wasn't a single redeeming thing about the whole package - weak song, poor vocals, absolutely no charisma. He should be grateful for the 31 points and shut the f*** up.

 

One of the worse songs in the whole contest IMO.

Edited May 19, 20169 yr by ScottyEm

Are you drunk or are you trolling?

 

I mean you're correct that everything about the Irish entry was bad but the song sucking is not the only point that matters. The stage was both ugly and boring while most of the songs that did very well had excellent staging (and yes that includes the simpler ones like France and Sweden - just because they're not complex doesn't mean they're not good).

 

Exactly, people are fooling themselves if they think stage is not a huge factor of the Eurovision. Take my country for example - the song was good, it had great reaction when it was announced, people loved Nina and we ended up being 23rd. No one can't convince me that the awful dress and bare staging had nothing to do with it...

Edited May 19, 20169 yr by zeze88

If you were able to notice, that reaction was due to the half naked hot guy werking it on the runway. Nothing more nothing less. :lol: you know us gays :lol: The dress was fantastic and I have to say, if anything, it helped the qualification as it was memorable. The song was never going to light up the scoreboard and 23rd is about the same result she would've gotten in any dress with any special effects. Sorry that's the truth. There are things other than dresses that matter in a song contest, ya know

Staging is quite important though, for televoters in particular as it helps something to stick in the mind. At the Eurovision party I was at pretty much everyone remarked on how great/crap/bare/busy the staging was for every performance, and for many this influenced the memorability of each song/influenced them to vote for it, or not.

 

Pretty sure Sergey wouldn't have topped the televote so emphatically, or at all, if he'd delivered Nicky Byrne type staging. That performance was everything and surely won Russia at least an extra 100 points in the televote.

 

If you were able to notice, that reaction was due to the half naked hot guy werking it on the runway. Nothing more nothing less. :lol: you know us gays :lol: The dress was fantastic and I have to say, if anything, it helped the qualification as it was memorable. The song was never going to light up the scoreboard and 23rd is about the same result she would've gotten in any dress with any special effects. Sorry that's the truth. There are things other than dresses that matter in a song contest, ya know

 

Wow you actually like that dress, you are the first person that I hear saying that :lol: And sure, it was memorable BUT in a negative. make fun of kind of way which is not good.

 

Of course I am not saying the dress is THE most important thing in Eurovision, it is not - it is the whole package actually, the voice is also not the most important thing either - if that were true, those babushkas wouldn't have been 2nd in 2012.

 

But just like gooddelta said, staging and performance is important, I completely agree that Sergey wouldn't have been this high if he had staging and the outfit that Nicky had. His staging helped probably 80 % because the song is not that great or memorable, a complete europop, hoping to win thanks to nostalgia. He even had a fancy music video. So yeah, if Nina wasn't so static and had a more creative staging, maybe she would have ended up higher than 23rd place.

 

Same goes for Nicky - if RTE put just a bit of an effort into the whole thing, maybe he would have reached the final. I thought they would have shown some enthusiasm since Nicky isn't born yesterday, he isn't a complete nobody AND he is even their employee - turns out Nicky was the only one who truly tried to do the best he could. Like him, his song or not, he did a good job on stage and an excellent job behind the scenes with the press and everyone. At the very least least no one can deny he was a great ambassador for his country.

Edited May 20, 20169 yr by zeze88

In yet another blow to Nicky, his album has not managed to reach the Top 100, this is terrible considering how low sales are to reach the low end of the chart. I took a look on the Irish charts where his album made number 8 but Sunlight single after all the Eurovision exposure is not top 100.

In yet another blow to Nicky, his album has not managed to reach the Top 100, this is terrible considering how low sales are to reach the low end of the chart. I took a look on the Irish charts where his album made number 8 but Sunlight single after all the Eurovision exposure is not top 100.

 

But seriously now, if Shane and Mark can't have succesful album, I think it is delusional to expect anything better from Nicky. Of course he had exposure with the song but not much was put into the album. If he had a promo for it then I would consider this a flop but he didnt even present other songs from the album, all that most people know is Sunlight, a song that didnt qualify on Eurovision.

 

It is not surprising at all that the album is not impacting the charts. Everyone is only talking about how he failed to qualify, that is not exactly a desireable promo.

Edited May 20, 20169 yr by zeze88