January 17, 20169 yr I dare say more people would know The Man Who Sold the World than Drive-In Saturday. We're basically trying to find Buzzjack's favourite Bowie tracks but we can't really rate every song he ever released for obvious reasons. I say include songs that are generally know even if they weren't singles or charting singles.
January 17, 20169 yr Ps Taylor Jago... I hope you don't mind us debating this - I think we all appreciate you running it, regardless of songs chosen! :D
January 17, 20169 yr Poor Taylor. I don't think anyone could include EVERYTHING first off. I think Suffragette City and MWSTW (maybe magic dance too, to represent his work in the iconic film) are the only two that *need* to be added now, since Cat People, Laz and Changes are added. It's just too much either. I'm all for shaving off some of the remixes at the end to make it slightly shorter.
January 17, 20169 yr Was Suffragette City not a single? I don't want to meddle too much but how many singles/key tracks are missing this way? Severin, would you know? Suffragette City was a b-side/album track only. Same with Ziggy Stardust, Man Who Sold The World, Station To Station. Hang On To Yourself was released under the Arnold Corns moniker and failed to chart Any others?
January 17, 20169 yr The main tracks that are absent for me are... All The Young Dudes Suffragette City Slow Burn New Killer Star Looking For Water Blackstar The Man Who Sold The World The Stars (Are Out Tonight) Love Is Lost (Remix) Shadow Man I'm Afraid Of Americans ...but that's purely because I'm quite fond of them, I can understand if I'm trying to be a little more objective about it why they're not in there... ATYD - album outtake only SC - album track Slow Burn - U.S. single only New Killer Star - U.S. single only LFW - non single Blackstar - Only charted on Fri TMWSTW - album only TS(AOT) - UK #102 LIS (remix) - 12" only release - failed to chart Shadow Man - Probable Ziggy outtake, recorded for the aborted Toy album 2001 I'm Afraid Of American - U.S. single Oh and Magic Dance was a U.S. single only Edited January 17, 20169 yr by Severin
January 17, 20169 yr I don't know whether this would run but what I am going to do (eventually!) with a Beatles rate is have everyone give their top 10. Then the 40 songs that appear the most times would be selected for the rate. I know this adds another level to the rate but with so many essential songs that were not singles this seems the best way to do it given he's got such a vast catalogue.
January 17, 20169 yr Rating Bowie will always be tough. Most of his weak songs are superior to other act's decent ones, hence they are rated in comparison to his work. 3 11's is not enough!! 05 The Laughing Gnome 10 Space Oddity 10 Changes 10 Starman 09 John, I'm Only Dancing 10 The Jean Genie 09 Drive-In Saturday 10 Life On Mars? 07 Sorrow 08 Rebel Rebel 10 Rock 'n' Roll Suicide 08 Diamond Dogs 07 Knock On Wood 09 Young Americans 09 Fame 09 Golden Years 08 TVC 15 10 Sound And Vision 11 Heroes 10 Beauty And The Beast 09 Boys Keep Swinging 08 DJ 04 John, I'm Only Dancing (Again) 04 Alabama Song 11 Ashes To Ashes 09 Fashion 09 Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps) 08 Up The Hill Backwards 08 Under Pressure (with Queen) 10 Wild Is The Wind 06 Baal (EP) 11 Cat People (Putting Out Fire) 03 Peace On Earth/Little Drummer Boy 08 Let's Dance 08 China Girl 08 Modern Love 09 White Light/White Heat 08 Blue Jean 05 This Is Not America 07 Loving The Alien 06 Dancing In The Street (with Mick Jagger) 10 Absolute Beginners 04 Underground 03 When The Wind Blows 05 Day-In Day-Out 07 Time Will Crawl 04 Never Let Me Down 07 Tin Machine/Maggie's Farm (Live) (as part of Tin Machine) 04 Fame '90 08 You Belong In Rock 'n' Roll (as part of Tin Machine) 08 Baby Universal (as part of Tin Machine) 07 Jump They Say 07 Black Tie White Noise (featuring Al B. Sure) 07 Miracle Goodnight 08 The Buddha Of Suburbia (with Lenny Kravitz) 10 The Hearts Filthy Lesson 08 Strangers When We Meet/The Man Who Sold The World (Live) 03 Hallo Spaceboy (with the Pet Shop Boys) 07 Little Wonder 07 Dead Man Walking 06 Thursday's Child 00 Under Pressure (Rah Mix) 06 Survive 07 Seven 08 Everybody Says 'Hi 08 Rebel Never Gets Old 06 Arnold Layne (with David Gilmour) 09 Where Are We Now? 10 Lazarus
January 17, 20169 yr I am really surprised that Severin gave an eleven to Cat People. :o Why? It's great. At least the single version is. The album version is terrible To be fair there were about 8 tracks I could have given the third 11 to but I figured that needed the boost more and I was playing it in the car today. Edited January 17, 20169 yr by Severin
January 17, 20169 yr Author As a separate competition, (and this is entirely optional), you can name your 12 favourite songs not on the list as so: +12: Favourite +11: 2nd favourite +10: 3rd favourite +9: 4th favourite +8: 5th favourite +7: 6th favourite +6: 7th favourite +5: 8th favourite +4: 9th favourite +3: 10th favourite +2: 11th favourite +1: 12th favourite The top 10 will be revealed during the results.
January 17, 20169 yr +12: Five Years +11: Time +10: Slip Away +9: Aladdin Sane +8: Watch That Man +7: Station To Station +6: Queen Bitch +5: Big Brother +4: Blackstar +3: Suffragette City +2: Hallo Spaceboy (album version) +1: The Man Who Sold The World
January 17, 20169 yr As a separate competition, (and this is entirely optional), you can name your 12 favourite songs not on the list as so: +12: Favourite +11: 2nd favourite +10: 3rd favourite +9: 4th favourite +8: 5th favourite +7: 6th favourite +6: 7th favourite +5: 8th favourite +4: 9th favourite +3: 10th favourite +2: 11th favourite +1: 12th favourite The top 10 will be revealed during the results. That seems like a reasonable proposal. Thanks for doing this, TJ.
January 17, 20169 yr Why? It's great. At least the single version is. The album version is terrible To be fair there were about 8 tracks I could have given the third 11 to but I figured that needed the boost more and I was playing it in the car today. Oh I think I've only ever heard the album version... which is the single version? The 6 minute plus one? edit... presumably the 4 minutes version! Edited January 17, 20169 yr by dandy*
January 17, 20169 yr Oh I think I've only ever heard the album version... which is the single version? The 6 minute plus one? edit... presumably the 4 minutes version! Yeah it's 4:13 long
January 17, 20169 yr Darn, it's album only everywhere! I don't hate the other version as such, it's just not what I expected you to give an 11 to for some reason. There's no logic or quality involved, just a presumption of tastes.
January 17, 20169 yr Tarantino knows how good it is! rCd_wDYuapo I can see why you wouldn't expect it. I've been fairly clear in my comparative disapproval of 80's Bowie but it is also the decade where I first discovered him and this came out not long after the Scary Monsters album which was the first I ever had so I'm kind of fond of it. Edited January 17, 20169 yr by Severin
January 17, 20169 yr 80s Bowie was generally a mess but Scary Monsters and Let's Dance are so good! (I know the latter divides opinions a lot)
January 17, 20169 yr 80s Bowie was generally a mess but Scary Monsters and Let's Dance are so good! (I know the latter divides opinions a lot) Scary Monsters IS great, but for me Let's Dance has 3 good tracks and they're the singles.
January 17, 20169 yr 06 The Laughing Gnome 10 Space Oddity 10 Changes 10 Starman 09 John, I'm Only Dancing 10 The Jean Genie 08 Drive-In Saturday 11 Life On Mars? 07 Sorrow 10 Rebel Rebel 06 Rock 'n' Roll Suicide 08 Diamond Dogs 07 Knock On Wood 09 Young Americans 10 Fame 09 Golden Years 05 TVC 15 06 Sound And Vision 10 Heroes 06 Beauty And The Beast 09 Boys Keep Swinging 05 DJ 04 John, I'm Only Dancing (Again) 07 Alabama Song 11 Ashes To Ashes 09 Fashion 10 Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps) 08 Up The Hill Backwards 11 Under Pressure (with Queen) 04 Wild Is The Wind 06 Baal (EP) 08 Cat People (Putting Out Fire) 08 Peace On Earth/Little Drummer Boy 10 Let's Dance 09 China Girl 10 Modern Love 07 White Light/White Heat 10 Blue Jean 09 This Is Not America 07 Loving The Alien 03 Dancing In The Street (with Mick Jagger) 10 Absolute Beginners 10 Underground 08 When The Wind Blows 08 Day-In Day-Out 07 Time Will Crawl 10 Never Let Me Down xx Tin Machine/Maggie's Farm (Live) (as part of Tin Machine) 08 Fame '90 09 You Belong In Rock 'n' Roll (as part of Tin Machine) 06 Baby Universal (as part of Tin Machine) 05 Jump They Say 05 Black Tie White Noise (featuring Al B. Sure) 03 Miracle Goodnight 08 The Buddha Of Suburbia (with Lenny Kravitz) 02 The Hearts Filthy Lesson 04 Strangers When We Meet/The Man Who Sold The World (Live) 08 Hallo Spaceboy (with the Pet Shop Boys) 06 Little Wonder 05 Dead Man Walking 03 Thursday's Child 07 Under Pressure (Rah Mix) 04 Survive 05 Seven 08 Everybody Says 'Hi 10 Rebel Never Gets Old 07 Arnold Wayne (with David Gilmour) 09 Where Are We Now? 08 Lazarus
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