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Ah, but you miss the main difference between me, and the Remain majority on this forum...

 

You/they *trust* the EU to deliver their promises - I however, do not!

 

As for democracy - it is *impossible* to deliver more of it, while diluting each country's say by adding more member countries.

 

so it's only democracy in the UK if we leave the EU (but not if we vote to agree changes to the EU while a member), but not in the rest of the world (if they agree to changes), and you trust the British government to follow through on their promises. You really need to read a lot more and check out every election promise made during the last 50 years, for example. Or even just the last 2. A bigger bunch of liars you would be hard to find!

 

BTW you have plenty of people of a similar ilk in the local press commenting. Frinstance JPMorgan is making plans tro move to Frankfurt (a huge local employer and good for the local economy) and the Brexiteers are all pouting saying "good" "don't threaten us" and "we don't care" because they basically are too thick to understand economics, tax income and the relationship between that and the amount available to keep them in pensions/on benefits* (as they invariably are, having the leisure time while not actually working for a living in order to slag off something they think won't affect them. Deluded!)

 

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They also fail to understand the impact on the wider Bournemouth / Poole economy if hundreds of people either follow the company to Frankfurt or join the dole queue. Other local businesses will lose customers and some of them will go bust. Still, no doubt the Echo website will still be full of people whingeing about the number of town centre shops closing.
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I just did. :w00t:

 

They also fail to understand the impact on the wider Bournemouth / Poole economy if hundreds of people either follow the company to Frankfurt or join the dole queue. Other local businesses will lose customers and some of them will go bust. Still, no doubt the Echo website will still be full of people whingeing about the number of town centre shops closing.

 

Financial Service businesses may be able to relocate, but those that provide physical services cannot - it's hardly practical to pop over to Paris just to buy a loaf of bread, for example! The same goes for consumer durables - if your fridge breaks down, you aren't going to want to wait weeks for delivery from overseas...

 

I just did. :w00t:

Financial Service businesses may be able to relocate, but those that provide physical services cannot - it's hardly practical to pop over to Paris just to buy a loaf of bread, for example! The same goes for consumer durables - if your fridge breaks down, you aren't going to want to wait weeks for delivery from overseas...

What's that got to do with the price of fish? The financial services industry is a major part of our economy.

I think equating high quality employment from the financial services sector to the zero hrs contracts available at Tesco is staggeringly stupid

 

European Parliament Sets Out Its Vision

 

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/resources/li...023RES86651.pdf

 

This document reaffirms my decision to vote Leave - its increasing movement towards federalisation is intimidating to me.

Omg this document is bae. Some fab stuff in there especially around corporation tax and VAT reform.

 

A European citizen f***ing breathing seems to be intimidating to you

What's that got to do with the price of fish? The financial services industry is a major part of our economy.

 

Yes, which is why I don't believe a significant proportion of it will relocate.

 

I think equating high quality employment from the financial services sector to the zero hrs contracts available at Tesco is staggeringly stupid

Omg this document is bae. Some fab stuff in there especially around corporation tax and VAT reform.

 

A European citizen f***ing breathing seems to be intimidating to you

 

HOW MANY TIMES?! I am not anti-European, just anti-EU! :banghead:

 

Also, I never said a word about zero hour contracts!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41975277

 

Parliament is to be given a take-it-or leave-it vote on the final Brexit deal before the UK leaves the EU.

 

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Could be hard for some of the most hard-line Remainers to swallow, as to reject a deal would surely cause a default to a hard Brexit. :unsure:

 

This vote is exactly what we were told about months ago. It is, of course, utterly meaningless. MPs have an obligation to vote for what they believe to be in the national interest. This so called concession denies the majority the chance to do that.
Yes, which is why I don't believe a significant proportion of it will relocate.

Why? Their priority is to make money for themselves. If that means relocating, that's what they will do.

Why? Their priority is to make money for themselves. If that means relocating, that's what they will do.

 

Ah, but since most of what they do is via computer anyway, it will make no difference where they are located, so why incur relocation costs?

It will due to barriers once ourside the EU!!!! We have explained this BEFORE.

 

But many of the major markets are outside the EU - especially the biggest of all...

But many of the major markets are outside the EU - especially the biggest of all...

That doesn't alter the fact that the EU market is a lot bigger than the UK market.

That doesn't alter the fact that the EU market is a lot bigger than the UK market.

 

That is not in dispute - but London has the history behind it as a financial centre.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41975277

 

Parliament is to be given a take-it-or leave-it vote on the final Brexit deal before the UK leaves the EU.

 

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Could be hard for some of the most hard-line Remainers to swallow, as to reject a deal would surely cause a default to a hard Brexit. :unsure:

 

well, duhh, that's the intention. It's a corrupt way of denying Parliament the opportunity to have say as the alternative is no deal, rather than "piss off back and negotiate properly till you get an acceptable deal like the people demanded in the last general election"

 

One of the most anti-democratic cabinets using the referendum as an excuse to impose it's own vision on the future of the UK. Thing is the vision they end up with may well be Hard Left vision which would be hilarious. I can see them going the same way as the GOP in the States and getting massacred in the next elections. Always a bright side....

well, duhh, that's the intention. It's a corrupt way of denying Parliament the opportunity to have say as the alternative is no deal, rather than "piss off back and negotiate properly till you get an acceptable deal like the people demanded in the last general election"

 

I thought they were selecting who they wanted their MP's to be - the Brexit thing was the year before...

 

One of the most anti-democratic cabinets using the referendum as an excuse to impose it's own vision on the future of the UK.

 

This statement I don't get - I thought most of you here believe they are too muddled to have *any* sort of coherent vision for the UK? :huh:

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I thought they were selecting who they wanted their MP's to be - the Brexit thing was the year before...

This statement I don't get - I thought most of you here believe they are too muddled to have *any* sort of coherent vision for the UK? :huh:

Theresa May claimed she went to the people in an unnecesary GE to get a firm commitment for her Brexit, as she saw it, and she was roundly whipped despite a 20point lead. That should be taken as the electorate responding to her Hard Brexit (which was NOT in any way a claim by any of the leading Brexiteers, who insisted it would be soft and single-market lovely, with the EU rolling over happily to sell us their cars.

 

So it's more recent than the referendum, and therefore overturns what you choose to interpret as 52% of the population voting for a Hard Brexit (which they didn't).

 

They have no coherent policy on anything except leaving with no deal. It's almost as if that's what they want cos they certainly keep threatening and banging on and have stitched-up parliament to provide it. Useless bunch of tossers who dont give a damn about the country they claim to care about, nor the people in it.

 

Which is why they choose to ignore the election result and anyone who disagrees with their interpretation of what Brexit means.

Just to underline that Brexiteers know exactly how much damage is on the way, here's a major two-faced hypocrite telling his investors NOT to invest in the UK. His name? The lying John Redwood who says one thing to voters and another thing entirely to people who pay him for sound advice...

 

What a lying little Richard The Third.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola...k/#7f65bfa4c1e6

Just to underline that Brexiteers know exactly how much damage is on the way, here's a major two-faced hypocrite telling his investors NOT to invest in the UK. His name? The lying John Redwood who says one thing to voters and another thing entirely to people who pay him for sound advice...

 

What a lying little Richard The Third.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola...k/#7f65bfa4c1e6

 

Unfortunately that site hates adblocker, and I'm not prepared to turn it off just for a one-time visit.

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