Oh, that old chestnut...

 

Venezuela is not purely socialist for one.

 

Secondly, it was doin fine until the USA sought to cripple it. Not many countries are going to survive that.

You did notice my smiley, right? :rolleyes:

 

But if you really want an example anyway, in one word 'Venezuela'

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a sarcastic response to a comment you are unable to provide evidence against is still a schoolyard jibe, smiley rolleyes face or not (because it isn't actually a joke).

 

We were talking about the USA (and genuine democracies) not troubled states. So now give an example from the USA or UK where a left-wing politician has been colluding with Russians or enemy states. I think you'll find they are all right-wing though happy to be corrected with examples (cough, George Galloway cough)

 

 

I don't know if there's a better thread to put this in, but some excellent news tonight as Danica Roem has won a seat in Virginia's House of Delegates to become the first transgender person ever elected to a state legislature in the US (unseating a massively anti-LGBT incumbent in the process).

 

Althea Garrison, who was elected to the Massachusetts House of Representatives in 1992 as a Republican, says hello.

Althea Garrison, who was elected to the Massachusetts House of Representatives in 1992 as a Republican, says hello.

That Wiki page states that she was not openly transgender until after she was elected. Danica Roem is the first openly trans candidate to be elected.

Oh, that old chestnut...

 

Venezuela is not purely socialist for one.

 

How many times have I heard *that* one - "It hasn't worked because it's not 'real' socialism'.

 

The kind of socialism that pioneers like Marx etc envisioned simply *cannot* work because it attempts to crush everyone into a 'one size fits all' mold, which runs completely counter to human individuality. Talented people have no opportunity for advancement, while the lazy are protected from the consequences of their sloth.

 

 

 

How many times have I heard *that* one - "It hasn't worked because it's not 'real' socialism'.

 

The kind of socialism that pioneers like Marx etc envisioned simply *cannot* work because it attempts to crush everyone into a 'one size fits all' mold, which runs completely counter to human individuality. Talented people have no opportunity for advancement, while the lazy are protected from the consequences of their sloth.

While in capitalism its not what you know its who you know? They both work roughly on that principle.

 

Do you have a job? It seems a strange statement given such low unemployment and unfilled vacancies. I know when i was on the dole i had to not mention my degree in order to end up working in factories just to get some money rather than wait for something more suitable for someone of my immense talents and skills to come along.....

So now give an example from the USA or UK where a left-wing politician has been colluding with Russians or enemy states. I think you'll find they are all right-wing though happy to be corrected with examples (cough, George Galloway cough)

 

Do you count being a host of a talk show on Putin's propaganda network, Russia Today, as collusion with the Russians? If so, then as of today you can add Alex Salmond to that list.

Do you count being a host of a talk show on Putin's propaganda network, Russia Today, as collusion with the Russians? If so, then as of today you can add Alex Salmond to that list.

 

collusion? hmmmm. Makes you less reputable if you are being paid by the Russian State. That's Trump's entire administration's problem (ker-CHING!)

 

A bit like criticising prostitution when you get paid by a brothel. So you just avoid the entire subject entirely and answer an entirely different question instead. Entirely.

How many times have I heard *that* one - "It hasn't worked because it's not 'real' socialism'.

 

The kind of socialism that pioneers like Marx etc envisioned simply *cannot* work because it attempts to crush everyone into a 'one size fits all' mold, which runs completely counter to human individuality. Talented people have no opportunity for advancement, while the lazy are protected from the consequences of their sloth.

 

It is true.

 

Now please respond to how any country wouls hold up under economic attacks from U.S when the economy. Oops.

 

It is true.

 

Now please respond to how any country wouls hold up under economic attacks from U.S when the economy. Oops.

 

Do you have a specific economic attack in mind, or are you just fishing?

You never do any research and just say the other pwrson is wrong. Why?

 

http://www.mintpressnews.com/us-led-econom...a-apart/218335/

 

I give you one. Do the rest o the research yourself.

I see the USA is one of 3 countries (Hi Ukraine!) voting to condemn nazism in a UN resolution on the grounds that it might inhibit freedom of expression.

 

Oh, if only FDR had seen the light and realised that Hitler was just expressing his opinion that exterminating millions of human beings is just a perfectly justifiable lifestyle choice......

 

Or, the White House is a fan of Nazis.

 

One or the other.

I see the USA is one of 3 countries (Hi Ukraine!) voting to condemn nazism in a UN resolution on the grounds that it might inhibit freedom of expression.

 

Oh, if only FDR had seen the light and realised that Hitler was just expressing his opinion that exterminating millions of human beings is just a perfectly justifiable lifestyle choice......

 

Or, the White House is a fan of Nazis.

 

One or the other.

I assume you mean "not voting" :unsure:

I assume you mean "not voting" :unsure:

 

I certainly hope so!

Yes not a not in there not-ably :lol:

I see the USA is one of 3 countries (Hi Ukraine!) voting to condemn nazism in a UN resolution on the grounds that it might inhibit freedom of expression.

 

Oh, if only FDR had seen the light and realised that Hitler was just expressing his opinion that exterminating millions of human beings is just a perfectly justifiable lifestyle choice......

 

Or, the White House is a fan of Nazis.

 

One or the other.

 

The same resolution comes up every year in the UN, and every year the USA votes against it (including several times under President Obama when he was in office) on free speech grounds. The only reason it's even got attention this time around is because of the confirmation bias it maintains amongst those who want to view Trump as Hitler. PBS have an interesting article about this, and linking it to another UN article that the US voted against earlier this year that caused a similar fuss.

The same resolution comes up every year in the UN, and every year the USA votes against it (including several times under President Obama when he was in office) on free speech grounds. The only reason it's even got attention this time around is because of the confirmation bias it maintains amongst those who want to view Trump as Hitler. PBS have an interesting article about this, and linking it to another UN article that the US voted against earlier this year that caused a similar fuss.

Just to be clear. I don't view trump as Hitler. I view him as a confirmed fan of Hitler: source his ex wife and consistent support of Nazis. Racist. Sexist. Sexual predator accusations. Anti gay legislation. Anti poor legislation. Pro billionaire legislation. Pro Russian investigation ongoing. But not Hitler. He's far too thick dumbass moronic to be Hitler. That takes organisational skills.

The same resolution comes up every year in the UN, and every year the USA votes against it (including several times under President Obama when he was in office) on free speech grounds. The only reason it's even got attention this time around is because of the confirmation bias it maintains amongst those who want to view Trump as Hitler. PBS have an interesting article about this, and linking it to another UN article that the US voted against earlier this year that caused a similar fuss.

 

It's true that this isn't a new thing exclusive to Trump but it's not like we haven't already seen Trump refusing to condemn Nazis *cough* Charlottesville *cough*.

He also took rather a long time to comment on his endorsement by a former Grand Master of the KKK.

He also took rather a long time to comment on his endorsement by a former Grand Master of the KKK.

 

It depends if you consider two days to be a long time. Nonetheless, it led to one of the most bizarre episodes of an already bizarre campaign, especially given that 4 days after he disavowed him, he claimed to have never heard of him, despite leaving the Reform Party back in 2000 because the same fellow had infiltrated that party.