Will you stop going on about teleportation? No series is ever perfect with timings and the more time you spend moaning it the less you'll enjoy the series :drama:

 

Our text colour the same??? :o

 

Thank you being a fan of Beaver Feaver :wub:

 

w WS the gold teleported?

At the beginning they load it up.

A small contingent of troops escorts it on horseback to Kings Landing as they can move faster than an army can march.

They then return to their unit. Standard procedure for an Imporant prize or asset.

 

 

It seems like you're really stretching to criticise for the sake of it and not thinking it through

w WS the gold teleported?

At the beginning they load it up.

A small contingent of troops escorts it on horseback to Kings Landing as they can move faster than an army can march.

They then return to their unit. Standard procedure for an Imporant prize or asset.

 

 

It seems like you're really stretching to criticise for the sake of it and not thinking it through

 

 

 

It just reads as complete coincidence that she arrived AFTER when in the scene before they were JUST getting it/ organising the corn. They would have protected it with the army. They just keep buffing and buffing the Lannisters to drag it out. They need to return the favour and give Danaerys armour for her dragons, especially as I am convinced at least ONE will die vs the White Walkers for it to come back breathing ice - songs of fire and ice. Debuffing the dragons just saves on special effects budgets and shows they favour the Lannisters.

 

 

It just reads as complete coincidence that she arrived AFTER when in the scene before they were JUST getting it/ organising the corn. They would have protected it with the army. They just keep buffing and buffing the Lannisters to drag it out. They need to return the favour and give Danaerys armour for her dragons, especially as I am convinced at least ONE will die vs the White Walkers for it to come back breathing ice - songs of fire and ice. Debuffing the dragons just saves on special effects budgets and shows they favour the Lannisters.

 

The Lannister army has not been buffed. From day one it was the 2nd largest and best trained and equipped army in the realm.

Also no. Keeping the gold with a large number of troops like we saw with Jaimie would be a military no-no. Large numbers of troops take too much time to maneoeuvre and are too large and obvious a target for an attack. They are easily spotted and have to make many more frequent stops. When they do stop it's a very slow process to pitch wagons, tie horses, feed men etc.

 

By contrast a small squad of 10-20 riders with a wagon or two of gold can move much faster and secure their new spoils as quickly as possible. Because they are much more mobile than can evade detection much better and do not need to stop anywhere near as often or for as long. This would be standard military practice for the time. These days it would be airlifted out immediately. Number one priority is secure the asset.

 

If you think about it, The Lannisters took Highgarden relatively quickly. A raven or rider was probably sent during the battle to inform Danearys. That information would not reach Danearys for some time. The Lannister army immediately splits its ranks, some staying with Jaimie others head elsewhere. The gold is then immediately sent to Kings Landing with an escort. Bronn heads to encourage some farmers to pay up and has time to do so before rejoining Jaime.

The episode make it clear that this is the rearguard of stragglers. Tarly even suggest whipping them as they need to cross the Blackwater Rush by nightfall. This is the major river just west of King's Landing so even if they did keep the gold with the main force it would still be in King's Landing by the time Danearys arrives.It is news of Casterly Rock that spurs Danearys into action and that would take longer to arrive than news from Highgarden, so it makes sense that she knows where to look for the army. She still has ships for the Dothraki and they're a horse nation so can move with pace. Drogon can locate the army from high and lead the Dothraki to a good attack position.

 

It also make sense to keep Rhaegal and Viserion at home for defense in case of attack from elsewhere. Also they have no rider to best co-ordinate attacks and she has a better understanding with Drogon.

 

I agree that Dany needs armour for those dragons but she's probably lacking in a skilled blacksmith right now. I wonder when he'll show up...

 

Hmm.

 

Speaking of blacksmiths, WHERE IS THE KING'S SON WHO ESCAPED WITH ARYA BACK IN S2 AND WHERE IS THE CASTLE BLACKSMITH OF WINTERFELL??

 

Could we be seeing a return?

Please stop saying "magic" and "teleportation" and other crap like that. There's time-skips and fast horses, get over it.

 

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HOLY SHIT WHAT AN EPISODE THOUGH. I literally had to pause after the dragon came in because I was in complete shock and awe. I've seen Dany use dragons to burn people alive before, sure, but now this is in Westeros and is against her 'true' enemies there's just so much more depth and power in it. It's also super f***ing badass.

 

I'm glad Bronn's bolt didn't kill the dragon because that whole scenario would have just been a joke: Bronn being the first person to ever kill a dragon in the show. Bronn should've died, if not when the "dragon killer" was burned, but when he pushed Jamie out of harms way at the end. It seems like I hate Bronn but he's actually one of my favourites in the entire series (aside from the main players anyway). I just think his time is over and his death will have more of an effect on how Jamie views the war. Although everything that happened this episode could have a similar effect on him, so what do I know?

 

Bran is such a c**t these days. I get he's been through a lot but that's no reason to a) talk to Sansa about her rape, b) tell everyone about Arya's list, or c) re-gift a present from Littlefinger. He was cruel to that other girl who's brother died too, but I forget her name.

 

In regards to the dragons...

 

 

 

 

I think, armour or not, it's unrealistic to think she'll have all 3 to the end. But really, for the final battle she only needs one.

 

 

 

Please stop saying "magic" and "teleportation" and other crap like that. There's time-skips and fast horses, get over it.

 

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HOLY SHIT WHAT AN EPISODE THOUGH. I literally had to pause after the dragon came in because I was in complete shock and awe. I've seen Dany use dragons to burn people alive before, sure, but now this is in Westeros and is against her 'true' enemies there's just so much more depth and power in it. It's also super f***ing badass.

 

I'm glad Bronn's bolt didn't kill the dragon because that whole scenario would have just been a joke: Bronn being the first person to ever kill a dragon in the show. Bronn should've died, if not when the "dragon killer" was burned, but when he pushed Jamie out of harms way at the end. It seems like I hate Bronn but he's actually one of my favourites in the entire series (aside from the main players anyway). I just think his time is over and his death will have more of an effect on how Jamie views the war. Although everything that happened this episode could have a similar effect on him, so what do I know?

 

Bran is such a c**t these days. I get he's been through a lot but that's no reason to a) talk to Sansa about her rape, b) tell everyone about Arya's list, or c) re-gift a present from Littlefinger. He was cruel to that other girl who's brother died too, but I forget her name.

 

I'm glad you dislike

Bran as I've always found the Starks grating personally. Totally agree he was an idiot in this episode so so boring to watch and all valid reasons you've listed too.

 

 

Bran is not helped by his AWFUL ACTING.

 

I just read a couple comments that episode FIVE just leaked?

Not sure why I'm putting this in spoiler tags as it's nothing more than my own thoughts but anyone else think that Arya will eventually die while in disguise? I can see her being killed by a family member whilst she has the face of one of their enemies.

I believe she will, but not in disguise - I think she will die vs the white walkers with Needle in hand.

 

In the books, Jon says run away or you will be found dead as winter thaws and the snow melts. You will be found with a needle in your frozen hands.

I hope not, I don't feel like Arya's story to date entwines itself particularly well with the White Walkers. I feel it would be a better story if she somehow met her demise via her quest.

 

Looking through the remaining characters, it's astonishing just how many of them feel completely surplus to requirements when it comes to the story of the throne. And that's something that this series is making me feel, it's like anyone who doesn't really have a chance at the throne is basically waiting for their death scene.

I don't think Arya will die, not at least until the final battle. I feel as though her and Brianne might take on The Mountain together.

It would more likely be her and the Hound vs the Mountain together.

So that episode... wow.

I'm still kinda reeling...I don't know where to begin (idk if I should spoiler this, but you shouldn't be looking in the thread rlly) :lol: Soooo glad that the proper dragon action came at last, that last twenty minutes was just incredible. I feel like Bronn should've definitely died there (I do really like him as a character, but I agree he doesn't feel necessary at this stage), and a bit worrying that the dragon could already be hurt by that, it's certainly foreshadowing she's gonna lose at least one of them soon (as sad as that will be :(). For all her power in that scene, she must have lost a lot of respect from her advisors for that reckless move so it's interesting how much it will cost her! Jamie clearly isn't dead so idk why they bothered with the ending, but I still loved that cutting between him, Tyrion and Daenerys.

 

Lovely as it is to see all the Stark children together, I do wonder what will happen now as they are clearly all want completely different things. Also, I need to know what Littlefinger's intentions are, he's becoming almost creepy and surely he knows the Stark children will kill him on the spot when they find out his involvement in their father's death...

Edited August 7, 20177 yr by Chez Wombat

I'm still reeling at tonight's episode, the battle scenes were awesome, probably the best episode of the season, especially with the Dragon practically annihilating a whole army.

Making the dragons so weak - and making it so DISGUSTING CLIPPY NAIL BRONN!! damaged the dragon to appease the alpha male types - was vile and a joke. The alpha male sexists are now raging at Danaerys for beating Jamie and that gross man and saying the LANNISTERS are the good guys!!

 

Don't they remember um ANY OF THIS?

 

1. red wedding

2. JEOFFERY

3. Jamie Lannister is Jeoffery's dad and would have killed to protect the vile beast

4. He is in an incestous relationship with his sister!!

5. His sister used wildfire on half of King's landing - including innocents. This is fine but Danaery using dragon fire vs alpha males is not ok as, as one DELIGHTFUL YT commentator put it, 'Danaerys shouldn't have dragons, should be --redacted, aggressive sexual desire-- as men are superior in every way'. :/ :/ :/ VILE.

 

Empowering those alpha male characters is emboldening the Pepe Trumpanzees and sexists. They should be killed off immediately. Their mind views are so warped that they see the Lannisters as good because they represent a challenge to a woman with dragons and real power. Bronn and Jamie are beige as anything too, especially Bronn. This is Stannis all over again!

 

Jamie and that gross man interestingly SHOULD have died, as the extra armour creates so much drag, especially in a deep body o water, that it makes it impossible for them to swim, much like Virginia Wolfe using stones in her pockets. It is physics.

Where is the proof that "alpha male sexists" are raging? I'd legit love to see it... :lol:

All over youtube!

 

I'm not sure how to link to specific comment threads though?