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Maybe he'd never thought about it in those terms before? Maybe he needed time to consider it? It is not a crime to refuse to be goaded into insta-answers or decisions.
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I bet if Tim Farron wasn't an MP for the Liberal Democrat party, he probably would have voted against any equality for gay people. The voting demographic for the Lib Dems would never forgive him, just look at what happened after the Lib Dem lies about the tuition fees.

The Lib Dem manifesto in 2010 opposed tuition fees, However, the Lib Dems did not win that election - they came third. That left them unable to implement every dot and comma of their manifesto. The Tories, on the other hand, enthusiastically backed an increase in tuition fees with nary a blink.

The Lib Dem manifesto in 2010 opposed tuition fees, However, the Lib Dems did not win that election - they came third. That left them unable to implement every dot and comma of their manifesto. The Tories, on the other hand, enthusiastically backed an increase in tuition fees with nary a blink.

The Liberal Democrats were in a coalition government, are you telling me that the first opportunity they had of actual governing power in decades and they just rolled over and let the Conservatives do what they wanted.

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Then why didn't Tim Farron just immediately say no he does not think gay sex is a sin. It's taken a general election coming up for him to backtrack on what he really believes.

Look back at my earlier replies. At worst, Farron is guilty of underestimating the dishonesty of the press.

Then why didn't Tim Farron just immediately say no he does not think gay sex is a sin. It's taken a general election coming up for him to backtrack on what he really believes.
You missed all the articles babe. x

 

His record speaks for itself. That interview was taken from a couple of years ago when he became leader and it was specifically an interviewer trying to trip him up by questioning about theological doctrine (just because he's a Christian) rather than talking about his politics.

The Liberal Democrats were in a coalition government, are you telling me that the first opportunity they had of actual governing power in decades and they just rolled over and let the Conservatives do what they wanted.

What are you blathering on about? Do you seriously think that a junior partner in a coalition government would succeed in saying "Implement everything in our manifesto and nothing else or we're not interested"?

Lib Dems watered down the nasty Tories and kept the Nasty Party in check for the most part. The big damage comes from full-on majority Tory parties.

 

(The Tories won the last one by making English people terrified of Scottish rule in Parliament in a Labour coalition. The question is, if Scottish influence on Parliament is so terrible, then why is Union influence and rule in Scotland so acceptable??)

 

Lib Dems couldn't go into partnership with Labour following the credit crisis and the HAMMERING from the right wing press. They couldn't NOT go into coalition with Tories as it would cause ANOTHER election and floating Lib voters would retreat to Labour to block the Tory government...

Why can Tories get away with corruption and backwards morality all the live-long day but if a Lib Dem leader hesitates once, he's dragged over the coals? Why are we not having this discussion over the Tory MPs due to be charged with election fraud? Why isn't the media?

 

You're (PeaceMob) not holding two parties to the same standards and you're accepting the Tories are amoral dinosaurs who can do what they want no matter what they do, latching onto miniscule things that other parties might have done as excuses not to vote for them.

The Establishment is firmly conservative (small c) and therefore wants the Conservatives in power at all cost.

 

It is the same as Penis Pig Gate vs Corbyn's tie.

 

The media HARANGUED Corbyn over a messy tie and the right wing commentators defended Pigeron. Why? Because to the right wing press, sex with dead pigs, etc, is okay for the conservatives and the upper classes because 'wut a lad'. Corbyn, etc, and the other parties are not from the upper classes and, therefore, are above their station. Therefore, the press will rip them for anything, but allow the upper classes to rule with impunity. This is one of the many reasons I will NEVER vote for that Eton lot.

Why can Tories get away with corruption and backwards morality all the live-long day but if a Lib Dem leader hesitates once, he's dragged over the coals? Why are we not having this discussion over the Tory MPs due to be charged with election fraud? Why isn't the media?

 

You're (PeaceMob) not holding two parties to the same standards and you're accepting the Tories are amoral dinosaurs who can do what they want no matter what they do, latching onto miniscule things that other parties might have done as excuses not to vote for them.

Sadly, that is the way things work.

 

Earlier this week Boris Johnson said in a radio interview that the UK would support whatever the Americans did in opposition to Assad in Syria. Some senior Tories, including Theresa May, made it clear that they did not agree.

 

Any disagreement along those lines within the Labour party would be greeted with headlines about chaos and disarray. When it happens in the Tory party, not a dickie bird.

Why can Tories get away with corruption and backwards morality all the live-long day but if a Lib Dem leader hesitates once, he's dragged over the coals? Why are we not having this discussion over the Tory MPs due to be charged with election fraud? Why isn't the media?

 

You're (PeaceMob) not holding two parties to the same standards and you're accepting the Tories are amoral dinosaurs who can do what they want no matter what they do, latching onto miniscule things that other parties might have done as excuses not to vote for them.

 

You sound like Donald Trump. How ironic. :lol:

I fail to see how, unless calling the establishment corrupt and complicit in illicit activity is now completely associated with that fool - it was done before he came along and it will be done when he's a distant memory.

 

There are so many examples of this that it took nothing for Suede to pull out a recent one from this week, yet people still go along with this farce, it's frustrating and borderline dictatorial.

Absolutely, Iz!! The monied elite is basically nearly all Tory, ao we end up in this quasi-dictatorial setting with the media lambaating anyone not Tory.
This is a secular country, though the Conservative lot - big C - would have you NOT believe that in a desperate attempt to continue controlling us.

 

Nope - the UK is officially a Christian country. Anglicanism is its official religion, the Head of State is also the head of the established church. You may not like that it's the case, but it is.

Unlike Scottish nationalists, I live in the present not the past. Tim Farron in 2017 failed to give a clear answer on whether he thought gay sex is a sin, if he was the leader of the BNP party then I wouldn't expect anything different but as the leader of the Liberal Democrats, that is seriously shocking.

 

You will the same opportunity to hear Theresa May answer the same question on Sunday when she gets asked it (hot off the HIGNFY show), and hopefully questioned about her lack of support for same.....

 

Farron BTW is a perfectly decent man with a good record, and good intentions. Of all the English party leaders he stands head and shoulders over the others. I would trust him to run the UK. I wouldn't trust the other 3 rubbish contenders with organising a roof repair 2 years in advance of a forthcoming hurricane (though I also like Caroline Lucas). Like 3 bad farts in a spacesuit.

You sound like Donald Trump. How ironic. :lol:
.... Articles. Please answer this question or I'll assume you can't.
If these articles don't clarify his position (since his voting record apparently doesn't) what grounds do you have for believing he's anti LGBT?
Nope - the UK is officially a Christian country. Anglicanism is its official religion, the Head of State is also the head of the established church. You may not like that it's the case, but it is.

 

Exactly.

 

Officially.

 

The elite is not in step with the people.

 

No one goes to church anymore.

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I bet if Tim Farron wasn't an MP for the Liberal Democrat party, he probably would have voted against any equality for gay people. The voting demographic for the Lib Dems would never forgive him, just look at what happened after the Lib Dem lies about the tuition fees.

 

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He chose to be a Liberal Democrat MP knowing its values, your comment makes zero sense. It's not like he was forced into it, it's the party whose values he believes in.

 

It's like saying if Nigel Farage wasn't leader of UKIP he would've voted to remain. :rolleyes:

 

The Liberal Democrats were in a coalition government, are you telling me that the first opportunity they had of actual governing power in decades and they just rolled over and let the Conservatives do what they wanted.

 

Well yes, they were the junior coalition partner and the alternative of not forming a coalition would've been chaos at a time when we needed political stability. When you enter into a coalition, both sides have to make concessions. The Tories would have never introduced the Fixed Term Parliament Act or given an Alternative Vote Referendum if they weren't in coalition with the Lib Dems. Similarly, Lib Dems had to do the same.

Tory lead cut by SEVEN POINTS!!

 

If this momentum continues, ironically thanks to Momentum and the social media campaigns, real grassroots stuff, as the mwdia is so pro Tory it's like living in a One Party State, then we could be looking at 33% Labour, which would be a RESULT. Combined with SNP and Lib Dems, we could win with a left-leaning coalition, representinf a plurality of voters!!!

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