Precisely. The count is indeed complicated, but that isn't the individual voter's problem. Besides, other countries use it. Are people saying that British voters are less intelligent than those of other countries?

Yes.

With STV you have constituencies and you have a list of candidates.

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Yes.

 

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT

Under a list system of PR there are still a lot of people who are guaranteed to be elected simply by being at the top of the party list. STV gives voters the power to decide which of a party's candidates are elected. Therefore, any MP whose seat can be considered "safe" is only safe because of their own efforts.

Tbh my support for STV is at least partially due to the assumption that it would be the most likely system to get rid of Kate Hoey.

Voting systems should be judged by how likely they are to unseat Philip Davies and Kate Hoey.

Tbh my support for STV is at least partially due to the assumption that it would be the most likely system to get rid of Kate Hoey.

That's fair enough :lol:

Voting systems should be judged by how likely they are to unseat Philip Davies and Kate Hoey.

They are both good reasons why I support STV. Why should a person who wants a Tory government but whose views are on the left of the party have to vote for someone like Philip Davies?

Would Philip Davies and Kate Hoey likely be that high up a party list? I'm sceptical they wouldn't win anyway in a several member seat.

Would Philip Davies and Kate Hoey likely be that high up a party list? I'm sceptical they wouldn't win anyway in a several member seat.

I suppose it depends on 1. how open the selection for the list was under AMS, and 2. what the constituencies were like under STV.

 

I could see a way that the West Yorkshire seats could be done under STV that the Tories would only get one MP elected in the one covering Shipley and Davies could be pushed out. In an "inner South London" one I suppose we'd do well enough that Hoey might survive.