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I mentioned on this thread yesterday it was around #190 or so

 

Today it's at #121 - like you say, I wonder why it's so high.

 

Spiceworld has been hoovering all week on the UK and U.S. iTunes charts.

 

 

Maybe Melanie's performance on James Cordon is translating more towards Spice Girls sales than her solo sales...

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Maybe Melanie's performance on James Cordon is translating more towards Spice Girls sales than her solo sales...

 

I guess so.

 

Which is why some more activity as a group in America would be welcomed, along with a tour ☺️ It would make a much better impact as a group

It might be advertised or on sale on the itunes front page. I doubt Mel C performance of a solo song got people downloading Spice.
It might be advertised or on sale on the itunes front page. I doubt Mel C performance of a solo song got people downloading Spice.

 

Why not? People will most immediately react to Mel C through the lens of her being a Spice Girl in the first place, because that's what they remember her for. Some people might watch it and then remember fondly 'Oh I loved the Spice Girls' and go remenisce after.

 

And maybe Who I Am's performance didnt resonate with people as much as the memory of her being a Spice Girl.

 

It makes sense to me. We're all here first and foremost because she is a Spice Girl. At least I am...

Why not? People will most immediately react to Mel C through the lens of her being a Spice Girl in the first place, because that's what they remember her for. Some people might watch it and then remember fondly 'Oh I loved the Spice Girls' and go remenisce after.

 

And maybe Who I Am's performance didnt resonate with people as much as the memory of her being a Spice Girl.

 

It makes sense to me. We're all here first and foremost because she is a Spice Girl. At least I am...

 

 

Basically THIS :yahoo:

Mainly I don't think it is that as it didnt rise until Friday which is the start of a new chart week and when iTunes would update their front page.

 

Mel C performed Tuesday and it would be odd for an effect to be delayed by 3 days.

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I’m doing another ‘Stop’ streaming party this week so please do take part if you can

 

I thought it would be good to start this Friday as it’s May 1st and it’s an easy date to remember

 

 

Coool. What does it mean?

 

10 streams on each platform (Youtube, Spotify, etc) per person per day?

 

Can we do more of those for Holler too? It deserves so much better than the meager 260k it has sold....

Coool. What does it mean?

 

10 streams on each platform (Youtube, Spotify, etc) per person per day?

 

Can we do more of those for Holler too? It deserves so much better than the meager 260k it has sold....

 

It all depends on whether you have a free or premium account but I know it’s over the 500k mark so it would be great to get Stop to Platinum (600k)

It all depends on whether you have a free or premium account but I know it’s over the 500k mark so it would be great to get Stop to Platinum (600k)

 

I have a paid spotify account, so how many listens will do per day?

 

I think Stop will eventually get to 600k but it might take a few years eh

Stop needs to become platinum and Goodbye a millionaire and Holler Gold (fat chance) before I'm happy! :cry:

 

Let's be honest every one of their songs needs to become a millionaire!!!

The system is so unfair to the older fans lol, who would have the time and energy to stream all the time. And I bet spice fans had played spice contents billions of times alltogether during their heyday after we bought them, it's just there was no technology to count those back in the day.
The system is so unfair to the older fans lol, who would have the time and energy to stream all the time. And I bet spice fans had played spice contents billions of times alltogether during their heyday after we bought them, it's just there was no technology to count those back in the day.

 

 

The same can be said for any act pre-streaming tbf. Also the same can be said for the likes of Sugababes and Girls Aloud who had massive hits back then but their sales don't reflect their impact at the time because overall sales were in a slump. It's just one of those things.

The same can be said for any act pre-streaming tbf. Also the same can be said for the likes of Sugababes and Girls Aloud who had massive hits back then but their sales don't reflect their impact at the time because overall sales were in a slump. It's just one of those things.

 

That's not true. I, myself, bought tons of cassettes when I was a teen. Some never been played because you know that's what teens do we bought and left them there. Only very few that been played till you had to buy the new ones. You listened, learned the lyrics and dance routines. You remember all the members and care about them. You played and watched time and time again, these things happened all over the world for the spice girls. Sales and the hits don't reflect how deep the artist had impacted on you, time do. I find it strange that many Brits always compare the Spice Girls to their other girl groups, no other uk girl group could come near to their level. I did love Sugababes by the way (couldn't care less about Girl Aloud sorry) but any other girl group who came after the spice girls didn't hit you hard like them. Just wait and see those reunion concert scales, PCD as well.

That's not true. I, myself, bought tons of cassettes when I was a teen. Some never been played because you know that's what teens do we bought and left them there. Only very few that been played till you had to buy the new ones. You listened, learned the lyrics and dance routines. You remember all the members and care about them. You played and watched time and time again, these things happened all over the world for the spice girls. Sales and the hits don't reflect how deep the artist had impacted on you, time do. I find it strange that many Brits always compare the Spice Girls to their other girl groups, no other uk girl group could come near to their level. I did love Sugababes by the way (couldn't care less about Girl Aloud sorry) but any other girl group who came after the spice girls didn't hit you hard like them. Just wait and see those reunion concert scales, PCD as well.

 

 

Just because you bought cassettes and didn't play them doesn't mean there weren't hundred or thousands, or millions of other people playing them over and over and over, just like people will have bought Spice and played it once then never played it again...

 

Also I wasn't comparing GA or Sugas to the Spice Girls I just used them as examples as they both had big #1 hits at the time which only went like silver or didn't even certify, yet were massive hits for the time. Their sales don't reflect their impact.

Just because you bought cassettes and didn't play them doesn't mean there weren't hundred or thousands, or millions of other people playing them over and over and over, just like people will have bought Spice and played it once then never played it again...

 

Also I wasn't comparing GA or Sugas to the Spice Girls I just used them as examples as they both had big #1 hits at the time which only went like silver or didn't even certify, yet were massive hits for the time. Their sales don't reflect their impact.

 

That's why I said time reflects the real impact not sales or views/plays. So for that reason, you can't say the same to any act pre-stream era. There were a lot of hits in the nineties but already forgotten today, no one cares. Spice was not one of those since it has proved many times that millions still remember and ready to jam even 20+ years later. Out of curiosity, their #1 hits were huge as the SG's?

 

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The point Spiceboy was making is that in certain years, the sales didn't truly reflect how big the songs actually were!

 

In the 90s, Spice Girls singles sales were concentrated into a few weeks of the CDs and cassettes being widely available, but then the sales would die off completely as stock declined. Physical sales were very healthy in the late 90s though, which allowed Spice Girls to achieve some very respectable totals.

 

Whereas in the 00s, physical sales dropped off and people were fairly slow to adapt fully to downloads. In those years, there were obviously countless popular songs that had a big impact with the public, but the actual sales didn't come close to reflecting that impact.

 

In the late 2010s and 2020, streaming is fully established. Sales can accumulate forever, and the total sales figures are therefore relatively much bigger than the 00s, and even the 90s. It doesn't mean that the hits from now are much more loved than hits from 15 years ago though.

 

The lasting legacy of a song 20+ years after release is a totally different discussion! As is "Spice Girls vs other girl groups". Spiceboy is specifically talking about 'impact at the time'. The impact of a song while it's new and current is when their hit status is actually established. Sugababes selling 200,000-ish of a #1 hit in 2002 is probably equivalent to a platinum or million selling hit nowadays. Wannabe with today's conditions would probably have sold UK sales of 5 million lol, but 90s sales + catalogue sales and streams = 1,800,000 [of which under 1,200,000 was physicals].

 

Sound of the Underground and The Promise were two massive #1 hits for Girls Aloud. Push the Button and About You Now for Sugababes. In terms of pop classics, these are definitely remembered songs in the UK.

There were charts I posted somewhere in this thread. The illegal downloads didn't enter the market until mid 2000s, it started to effect the sales significantly from 04 or 05. Acts in the early 2000s still sold millions some even bigger than the 90s such as Linkin Park, Eminem, Norah Jones, Usher even Westlife or Madonna. Not sure who dominated the UK market during that time though.
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