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Paperback version of Spice Girls by Sean Smith has a different cover:

 

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Released 6th August 2020

It’s better to read Wannabe: How The Spice Girls Reinvented Pop Fame by David Sinclair . Basically the pop bible

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Paperback version of Spice Girls by Sean Smith has a different cover:

 

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Released 6th August 2020

 

Much nicer cover than the hardback

This has all come about because Geri came back on board they booked Australia again (for December 2020) and an announcement was coming in April. It inevitably got pushed back and it now lands on their 25th anniversary year. More offers came in as tour promoters are desperate to make up for this year next and it has grown into a world tour. They are confident they can do the UK again and Asia stadiums with Australia.

 

Brazil and the US are up in the air.

 

If all goes to plan you will get the announcement in September if not by November latest. If you want a look at what a spice girls stadium tour in Australia will look like check Queen and Adam Lambert stadium tour their February this year.

 

Obviously you don't have to believe me but coronavirus dependant we are a couple of months off an announcement.

 

I know it seems hard to believe but Ellie Goulding tickets went on sale this morning and Lady Gaga tickets for her stadium shows next year are on sale too.

 

Asia stadiums? :blink: Is this legit?

I can imagine they can play dome(s) in Japan which is considered indoor stadium but other than that where? Singapore?

It is very hard for female western artists to play stadiums here. Madonna's done it all outdoor stadiums, domes, indoor arenas in Asia. The last western female artist who could do stadiums is probably Lady Gaga and it was 2012, she came during one of her peak years, yet could only do Seoul and Bangkok other than that they're all arenas. If the girls could do stadiums here at this stage of their career it will be very very impressive.

 

Everyone doubted they could do stadiums in the UK. I remember chatting with Jay when the 6 stadiums were announced and hadn't gone on sale yet and we thought that was ambitious.

Sammy, can I just ask where you are getting this information in relation to booking stadiums in Asia? Unless I am missing something (and please point me in the right direction if I am) you seem to be the only one that is firmly sure this is happening.

 

Also, just because they sold out stadiums in the UK doesnt mean that they can do the same in the US, Europe, Asia. I think Australia and Brazil could work because they have been so successful there and there's obviously a growing apetite. But Asia and Europe im not sure. They didnt sell that well in Europe in 2007/2008 and they have never ever toured Asia.

 

Of course they could sell the UK stadiums, because they have built a touring legacy there. They have always toured the UK really successfully, with every single tour. So that audience is there, which is great. Similar could be said with USA to a certain extent as they did two tours there during their career so far.

 

But uncharted territory that doesnt necessarily scream 'COME PLAY HERE' like Brazil and Aus are.........

What about: Canada, New Zealand and South Africa?

The UK and USA have already been visited and toured a lot.

(2020 is fitting for Australia being unchartered territory, being the 250th anniversary of Captain Cook's visit.)

 

The girls sold 6 x platinum here with their first 2 albums.

+ have 16 ARIA certifications. And Aus is the only country where their Greatest Hits reached number 1 on the charts.

 

Anyway, here's a way of determining how many other fans you would be competing with to buy a ticket to see a group or band at a venue.

 

You will need to know:

- The total number of recordings sold in your country, for the group/band.

- The percentage of your country's population (recent years) who live in the region (county/state/territory/province) a venue is located in.

(And add those fans from bordering regions, if there's no concerts in their area.)

- The maximum capacity of the venue.

 

To calculate:

- Enter the total number of recordings sold.

- Divide by 100

- Multiply by the percentage of your country's population, that your selected area - county/province/state/territory (venue located in), is a percentage of.

- If necessary, add the percentage of adjacent and bordering regions in your country, that don't have any venues and tour dates included. (In case fans from there travel).

- Divide by the maximum capacity for your considered venue.

 

From a few cities and possible venues spread across Aus,

I can ascertain that I would be competing with anything ranging from: 1.17, 1.46, 1.84, 2.02, 2.07, 2.59, 3.89, 4.86, to 6.72 other fans for every ticket available at particular venues/locations.

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Playing arenas here in Asia isn't bad though. Japan is the second biggest market in the music industry behind the US. Their physical market is still the biggest and main market, they buy records and go to concerts. One dome or one arena in Japan could make around one stadium in Europe, 5-6 million, others are small but they'll pay you a good price like Hong Kong, Taipei, Singapore. And there is also the kind of behavior that won't buy records but love concerts very much that would be today Bangkok and The Philippines. But back in the day, we did buy those albums, the 80-90s kids. The girls came from the era we did that we collected the money, went to store and bought the albums. The girls sold millions here in Asia, over one million in Japan alone, physicals. And if they decided to play, that means the promoters probably agreed to give the money they asked for and I'm sure it's not small.

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Taking the 4 and 5 piece out of the equation for a minute, the Spice Girls were and are a global phenomenon.

 

The group may not have toured South America, Asia and Australia back in the 90s and the 2000s but they did sell A LOT of albums and singles and all during the physical era.

 

They sold 1.4 million albums in Japan (excluding singles)

Spice/Spiceworld sold over 13 million across Europe

In Australia they had multi platinum selling albums.

 

I can't image them not being able to sell out stadiums in most countries around the world.

 

If it was all five then yes I could see a stadium tour happening, but some of the territories that never got a SG concert would jump at the chance of seeing the four of them live, I'm sure.

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It couldn't be our: spiders, snakes, crocodiles, sharks and jellyfish scaring them from coming here? Heck, koalas are at risk of extinction. Wouldn't they like to see and hold one of those?

Don't forget: platypus', echidnas, possums, wombats, kangaroos, wallabies and kookaburras.

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They wont be trying Europe as far as I know bar the UK. Australia wont be a problem to fill stadiums, they were hugely popular there, it was the one place the GH went to number 1 and a lot of artists ignore Australia. So when artists do finally go to oz they tend to do very well as Australians are so happy to actually get big name artists there. Same for Brazil.

 

Asia who knows, they love their k-pop girl and boyband type acts there though and again it would be the girls first time.

 

I'm dubious they could sell out stadiums in Europe and the US though. Maybe a very few stadiums in US with 1 or 2 in Canada too.

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Australia (6th largest country), with a population of 25 million, has an arid interior in many areas. (Unlike: Europe, Canada and most of the USA.) Most of our population lives on the coast. With the mainland east coast the most populated.

 

How many months between a tour announcement and tour dates/schedule would you reckon there would be?

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I could see them doing a few (like 5) stadium dates across the US and one or two in Canada. They sold really well last time over there too - I think completley sold out right?

 

Europe I think they will struggle with Stadiums. Maybe if they are strategic with it they can get away with that. I can imagine a date in Paris and one in Italy/Greece to cover north and south, and that would be it, I think.

 

Alternatively, if they are clever, they can downside the show for arenas in Europe and do a few. I think they would stand a better chance this time across the continent, but they wont recreate the 98 levels of success nowadays...

Downsizing the show costs money and effort and then you need 3 or 4 shows to cover the same crowd and cost as a stadium. I doubt they will go anywhere in Europe. They will just hope the Europeans travel to the UK again.

It's like a soccer world cup.

There's 32 or 48 places to fill, and continents and regions get allocated a particular number.

 

Try dividing that pie up with smaller and larger pieces.

And do any cities get more than one concert?

(Apart from: London, Birmingham, Manchester, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Toronto)

 

With last year's tour, Brazilians and New Zealanders travelled to the UK to see some of their concerts.

 

Proposed Spice World Tour - 2021

Region/Number of concerts:

UK: 10 to 13

Europe: 7 to 15 (Ireland: 1 or 2)

Asia: 3 to 6

Australia/New Zealand: 5 to 7

North America: 20 to 25 (United States: 15 to 18, Canada: 5 to 7)

Africa: 2 to 3

South America: 2 to 6

 

Total number of concerts

minimum: 49, maximum: 75

 

Save the best for last, with the last concert of an international tour at ANZ Stadium in Sydney (capacity 83,500), or at the Melbourne Cricket Ground (capacity 100,024), with fireworks at the end, to rival a concert at Wembley Stadium.

(Both grounds were used for the 1956 and 2000 Summer Olympic Games.)

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I met so many fans in the circle from Brazil, Argentina, Colombia and Chile. They could easily sell out stadiums in South America. Also a lot of fans from the USA and the Middle East too

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They wont be trying Europe as far as I know bar the UK. Australia wont be a problem to fill stadiums, they were hugely popular there, it was the one place the GH went to number 1 and a lot of artists ignore Australia. So when artists do finally go to oz they tend to do very well as Australians are so happy to actually get big name artists there. Same for Brazil.

 

Asia who knows, they love their k-pop girl and boyband type acts there though and again it would be the girls first time.

 

I'm dubious they could sell out stadiums in Europe and the US though. Maybe a very few stadiums in US with 1 or 2 in Canada too.

 

 

Yes, the first time is quite exciting, k-pop pretty much takes over now in Asia and a lot of girl or even boy groups get influenced by the spice girls more or less. If you mention the biggest girl group of all time, the spice girls would be the first name you think of. But it's been over twenty years and we lost contact with them since 2000 but their name is sure still here so I don't know. Anyway, are you sure they're gonna play stadiums here?

An article about Mel B leaving Celebrity Juice due to a jam packed 2021, is reporting only: America, Europe and Australia.

Why not add Asia though?

 

An alliance of tour promoters has pitched a road map to their government to allow international tours to resume in 2021, if:

- There are only essential band members, two support staff and they are tested for COVID-19 before leaving and again on arrival.

- The bands being quarantined at a compound, with a rehearsing studio for 14 days.

- Hiring tour staff and crew (who reside in the toured country) to replace the band's usual tour team.

- Punters must download the government's COVID-Safe app to attend the show.

- Crowds to be capped at 70 per cent of total capacity and social distancing measures to be in place.

 

Even if a tour or leg can proceed, would bands and groups consider adding more concerts, if others are likely to sell out due to a venues capped capacity?

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