October 21, 20186 yr :manson: IT. DOES. NOT. MATTER. WHAT. RACE. THEY. ARE. UNLESS. YOU'RE. A. RACIST.
October 22, 20186 yr :manson: IT. DOES. NOT. MATTER. WHAT. RACE. THEY. ARE. UNLESS. YOU'RE. A. RACIST Chill out - high blood pressure can be a very bad thing, as I know only too well! ;) Seriously though, I don't believe it is wrong to name the perpetrators of crime, especially when some groups commit it more than others.
October 22, 20186 yr How many headlines along the lines of “White doctor murders hundreds of patients” or “White Cheltenham couple murder dozens of women” have you ever seen?
October 22, 20186 yr How many headlines along the lines of “White doctor murders hundreds of patients” or “White Cheltenham couple murder dozens of women” have you ever seen? Err, Dr Harold Shipman? ;) But my point is, I don't regard it as politically incorrect to give out such details about crimes, when it is important to know who the perpetrators are, whatever their group affiliation. Before they go to court is another matter, information should be concealed then, to ensure they get a fair trial.
October 22, 20186 yr Err, Dr Harold Shipman? ;) But my point is, I don't regard it as politically incorrect to give out such details about crimes, when it is important to know who the perpetrators are, whatever their group affiliation. Before they go to court is another matter, information should be concealed then, to ensure they get a fair trial. You missed the point (as ever). None of the headlines of the time referred to Shipman's race. Similarly, none of the headlines referred to Fred and Rosemary West's race.
October 23, 20186 yr You missed the point (as ever). None of the headlines of the time referred to Shipman's race. Similarly, none of the headlines referred to Fred and Rosemary West's race. Because in a less PC era, the default assumption was they were white, unless stated otherwise? Face it, we will always be fighting crime with one hand behind our backs, if we don't release as much information about suspects as possible. Correctly identifying suspects is far more important than upsetting a few PC leftists! Edited October 23, 20186 yr by vidcapper
October 23, 20186 yr Because in a less PC era, the default assumption was they were white, unless stated otherwise? Face it, we will always be fighting crime with one hand behind our backs, if we don't release as much information about suspects as possible. Correctly identifying suspects is far more important than upsetting a few PC leftists! You're still muddying the waters. Javid's comments weren't about suspects, they were about convicted criminals. Back in the 1970s and '80s, it was quite common to be told that a suspect was black with no more information given. That was hardly likely to lead to anyone being arrested. By contrast, if the only information about a suspect was that they were white, the police gave no information at all. If the colour of a suspect (i.e. somebody the police wish to talk to) is the only thing they know, they might as well say nothing. If they also have information about approximate height, age, etc., all information is relevant.
October 24, 20186 yr You're still muddying the waters. Javid's comments weren't about suspects, they were about convicted criminals. Back in the 1970s and '80s, it was quite common to be told that a suspect was black with no more information given. That was hardly likely to lead to anyone being arrested. By contrast, if the only information about a suspect was that they were white, the police gave no information at all. If the colour of a suspect (i.e. somebody the police wish to talk to) is the only thing they know, they might as well say nothing. If they also have information about approximate height, age, etc., all information is relevant. I could hardly muddy the waters more than they already are. :rolleyes: Nowadays there's likely to be more info about suspects - DNA for example, and CCTV footage.
October 24, 20186 yr I could hardly muddy the waters more than they already are. :rolleyes: Nowadays there's likely to be more info about suspects - DNA for example, and CCTV footage. Ah yes, I can just see the BBC announcing that the police have released a DNA profile of the suspect and showing a picture of said profile. I'm sure that will really help.
October 24, 20186 yr Ah yes, I can just see the BBC announcing that the police have released a DNA profile of the suspect and showing a picture of said profile. I'm sure that will really help. Well they can't release a picture a picture of the suspect, that'd be racist... :rolleyes:
October 24, 20186 yr Well they can't release a picture a picture of the suspect, that'd be racist... :rolleyes: Can you provide a single example to back up that bizarre assertion?
October 25, 20186 yr Can you provide a single example to back up that bizarre assertion? Don't you recognise a wry comment, based on the more extreme examples of PC? :)
November 3, 20186 yr https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-63...-claims-30.html 'How is there a THIRTY-year-old man in our maths class?' 'Asylum seeker' pupil is removed from school and reported to the Home Office after parents and classmates claimed he was 'lying about being 15 to get GCSEs' The schoolboy, from the Middle East, started at Stoke High in Ipswich this year He is alleged to told another GCSE student he is not 15 and is much older Pupil posted Snapchat picture saying: 'How's there a 30-year-old man in maths?' Parents have complained to the school who have now called in the Home Office The boy is claimed to have a bearded selfie on a now deleted Facebook profile
November 7, 20186 yr More nannying? https://theconversation.com/meat-tax-why-ta...ery-year-106399 I may have had to cut down on red meat because of my stroke, but i'll be damned if this suggestion ever comes to pass!
November 7, 20186 yr More nannying? https://theconversation.com/meat-tax-why-ta...ery-year-106399 I may have had to cut down on red meat because of my stroke, but i'll be damned if this suggestion ever comes to pass! It's an idea floated by someone who, as far as I know, has no direct influence on any party's policies. The idea has its merits, but I'd be surprised if any party adopts it as a policy any time soon. As a general principle, there is nothing wrong with governments using tax policy to try and change behaviour. In particular, there is nothing wrong with a government trying, at the same time, to raise money and reduce demand on the NHS.
November 8, 20186 yr As a general principle, there is nothing wrong with governments using tax policy to try and change behaviour. In particular, there is nothing wrong with a government trying, at the same time, to raise money and reduce demand on the NHS. But I hope they would be sensible enough to recognise fringe suggestions like this...
November 8, 20186 yr Why not? Meat destroys the environment and is cruel. Why not reduce demand in any way possible?
November 8, 20186 yr Why not? Meat destroys the environment and is cruel. Why not reduce demand in any way possible? The one thing vegans/veggies don't seem to realize is that, if everyone give up meat, countless millions of livestock would end being put down, as it would no longer be economical to support them - and they could not be released into the wild, as we've bred them to be docile, and therefore would be at the mercy of any predator... On a personal level, I have reduced my meat intake on doctor's orders, but no way would I do so just on the say of a bunch of lefty environmentalists!
November 8, 20186 yr Dutchman, 69, brings lawsuit to lower his age 20 years https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46133262
November 8, 20186 yr The one thing vegans/veggies don't seem to realize is that, if everyone give up meat, countless millions of livestock would end being put down, as it would no longer be economical to support them - and they could not be released into the wild, as we've bred them to be docile, and therefore would be at the mercy of any predator... On a personal level, I have reduced my meat intake on doctor's orders, but no way would I do so just on the say of a bunch of lefty environmentalists! Orrr with higher tax, meat demand gradually decreases? :lol:
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