I find Joel Adams an interesting case because it's literally the only song he has on Spotify, it hasn't been relevant in close to 2 years and yet he still has an impressive 1.9 million monthly listeners. I imagine a lot of it comes from soft/chill playlists & recommendation loops from similar stuff, but I'd love to know how many people are still seeking it out or hearing it for the first time. It'd also be interesting if we had the same raw stats with Apple's streaming service because I find that an interesting comparison point when Spotify seem to be forcing a hit, whether or not there's any traction on there as well.

Drake at 26, of course, no support no nothing on Spotify and it's not a single for sure. I hope it's a buzz single.

What a hideous collaboration, can they kick Ari off?

Can we kick you... off the site? *.*

Massive climb for Shotgun 35

great that's a fantastic top 50 effect x shotgun

 

disappointing entry for drake but it's another disappointing song so alas

Drake's song was insta-added as track #1 on rap caviar, the most important and influential rap/urban playlist in the world with 10 million followers, so no excuses

Edited May 28, 20187 yr by Bjork

You're going to pretend that Upset is not climbing A LOT tomorrow, aren't you? :P

Edited May 28, 20187 yr by SKOB

Spotify Chart Update [27/05]

 

01 [01] Calvin Harris & Dua Lipa - One Kiss [549,418]

02 [02] Drake - Nice For What [478,716]

03 [03] Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry [368,880]

04 [04] Anne-Marie - 2002 [356,057]

05 [05] Lil Dicky - Freaky Friday (feat. Chris Brown) [341,601]

06 [06] Post Malone - Better Now [335,106]

07 [08] Drake - God's Plan [283,508]

08 [07] Banx & Ranx - Answerphone (feat. Ella Eyre & Yxng Bane) [280,918]

09 [09] Jess Glynne - I'll Be There [264,493]

10 [10] Khalid & Normani - Love Lies [258,216]

 

11 [13] Marshmello & Anne-Marie - FRIENDS

12 [12] M.O - Bad Vibe (feat. Lotto Boyzz & Mr Eazi)

13 [15] George Ezra - Paradise

14 [17] Rudimental - These Days (feat. Jess Glynne, Macklemore & Dan Caplen)

15 [14] EO - German

16 [11] Childish Gambino - This Is America

17 [16] Zedd, Maren Morris & Grey - The Middle

18 [18] Sigala & Paloma Faith - Lullaby

19 [19] Post Malone - Psycho (feat. Ty Dolla $ign)

20 [20] Shawn Mendes - In My Blood

 

21 [21] Cardi B - I Like It (feat. Bad Bunny & J Balvin)

22 [22] Clean Bandit - Solo (feat. Demi Lovato)

23 [23] David Guetta & Sia - Flames

26 [NE] Drake - I'm Upset [NEW PEAK]

27 [26] Liam Payne & J Balvin - Familiar

28 [27] Shakka - Man Down (feat. AlunaGeorge)

30 [28] Selena Gomez - Back To You

32 [30] David Guetta, Martin Garrix & Brooks - Like I Do

35 [49] George Ezra - Shotgun

37 [33] A$AP Rocky - Praise The Lord (Da Shine) (feat. Skepta)

39 [37] Ramz - Family Tree

42 [40] Rita Ora - Girls (feat. Cardi B, Bebe Rexha & Charli XCX)

43 [43] Dennis Lloyd - Nevermind

46 [41] Yxng Bane - Vroom

47 [42] Years & Years - If You're Over Me

49 [50] Shawn Mendes - Youth (feat. Khalid)

 

51 [48] Dappy - Oh My (feat. Ay Em)

54 [53] Lil Baby - Yes Indeed (feat. Drake)

58 [55] Shawn Mendes - Nervous

59 [61] KYLE - Playinwitme (feat. Kehlani)

60 [60] 5 Seconds Of Summer - Youngblood

63 [67] Billie Eilish - lovely (feat. Khalid)

67 [66] M-22 - First Time (feat. Medina)

70 [71] AJ x Deno - London (feat. EO)

73 [82] Juice WRLD - Lucid Dreams [NEW PEAK]

78 [77] NOTD - I Wanna Know (feat. Bea Miller)

81 [85] Khalid - OTW (feat. 6LACK & Ty Dolla $ign)

85 [76] Cardi B - Be Careful

88 [84] Swarmz - Lyca

92 [88] Charlie Puth - Done For Me (feat. Kehlani)

96 [90] Not3s - Sit Back Down (feat. Maleek Berry)

100 [92] Nicki Minaj - Chun-Li

 

109 [107] ZieZie - Fine Girl

112 [108] Tyga - Taste (feat. Offset)

118 [111] RAYE - Cigarette (feat. Mabel & Stefflon Don)

130 [121] Arctic Monkeys - Four Out Of Five

141 [144] Tiësto & Dzeko - Jackie Chan (feat. Preme & Post Malone)

142 [136] BTS - FAKE LOVE

146 [130] Alice Merton - No Roots

148 [137] Loud Luxury - Body (feat. brando)

150 [149] Arlissa & Jonas Blue - Hearts Ain't Gonna Lie

156 [165] Loski - Forrest Gump

167 [178] King Princess - 1950

171 [174] Belly Squad - Missing (feat. Headie One)

176 [RE] Tom Walker - Leave a Light On

190 [183] Florence + The Machine - Hunger

 

OUT [189] Panic! At The Disco - High Hopes

I find Joel Adams an interesting case because it's literally the only song he has on Spotify, it hasn't been relevant in close to 2 years and yet he still has an impressive 1.9 million monthly listeners. I imagine a lot of it comes from soft/chill playlists & recommendation loops from similar stuff, but I'd love to know how many people are still seeking it out or hearing it for the first time. It'd also be interesting if we had the same raw stats with Apple's streaming service because I find that an interesting comparison point when Spotify seem to be forcing a hit, whether or not there's any traction on there as well.

It's funny cause he played a gig in London 2 years ago, a bit before Please Don't Go started taking off I believe and he had plenty of new material, and it sounded great too! Weirdly, none of it ever saw the light of day (except one song on YouTube only). I had no idea he still had so many monthly listeners, I guess you're right about the chill playlists! I don't think Please Don't Go ever saw much traction elsewhere, it always seemed notably lower on the OCC's streaming chart than the Spotify chart alone suggested (whereas songs like Call On Me, Pretty Girl, Let You Down, etc all started out similarly but the effect levelled out as they peaked).

Hope Clean bandit haven’t stalled

Hope Clean bandit haven’t stalled

There’s only an 80k difference between 22 (Solo) and 7 (God’s Plan).

Solo deserves to smash, it is such an incredible song!

What a hideous collaboration, can they kick Ari off?

Ari is the only good part of the collab :lol:

It's funny cause he played a gig in London 2 years ago, a bit before Please Don't Go started taking off I believe and he had plenty of new material, and it sounded great too! Weirdly, none of it ever saw the light of day (except one song on YouTube only). I had no idea he still had so many monthly listeners, I guess you're right about the chill playlists! I don't think Please Don't Go ever saw much traction elsewhere, it always seemed notably lower on the OCC's streaming chart than the Spotify chart alone suggested (whereas songs like Call On Me, Pretty Girl, Let You Down, etc all started out similarly but the effect levelled out as they peaked).

 

Apparently it was a Top 10 hit in Sweden :blink: Interesting you should mention that though, here's a bit of a chart review for the song which I found quite interesting (from August 2016)

 

Everything about this whole rollout is interesting, unusual or suspicious except for the song. That's just run-of-the-mill Sam Smith with the big 3 words replaced by another 3 words that mean the same thing.

 

What's odd is the way this song has been promoted. From what I know, Joel was a prettyboy teenager who auditioned for the Australian X Factor in 2012, and despite a fair amount of hype in his promo package + overwhelming judge support, didn't even make it past bootcamp. As is often the case there, he managed to amass about 1 million fans on Facebook before he even released his debut single because that's how that works. This debut single was released late last year and got a bit of a push on Australian radio becoming a minor chart hit, held back by the fact that as is often the case with radio-pushed songs, hardly anyone was streaming it.

 

Now, Joel is not signed to a major label, but by some sheer force of demand, found himself on pretty much all the top Spotify playlists that fit the bill (ie, not hip hop/dance). It is through this that the song has stormed to huge 'popularity', receiving more than 1 million streams a day for the last 2 months, reaching the top 50 in places like the US, the UK & Germany. This all kickstarted shortly after he did a quick promo tour in Sweden which of course is where Spotify was founded.

 

This success is bizarrely isolated. "Please Don't Go" has been played over 110 million times on Spotify, but only 32 million times on YouTube. That deficit is actually not very out of the ordinary, but 2 months ago according to his own social media post, it was 25 million on YouTube and 31 million on Spotify. Not only have the Spotify plays increased 10 times as fast in that period, but given the release date, the video has actually slowed down in gaining views, that's despite having subsequently charted in several countries since then. To add to this tale, a month ago he tweeted a poll suggesting that more people have discovered him from YouTube than Spotify https://twitter.com/JoelAdamsMusic/status/759082302047555584 Probably not true, but shows who is actually making an impact and isn't just a number. Funnily enough, his tweets in the last couple of months have been averaging less likes/RTs than before the song was 'a hit', though that's possibly because he retweets all praise currently.

 

What strikes me as odd about the whole thing is the general tone & attitude on display. It's not far off stuff I've seen before, artists getting their first hit are generally pretty excited about it and often do watch the way they climb up the ladder. I can't say I've seen anyone as attentative and blunt as Joel though. All his chart related social media posts have a weird tone about them, almost robotic. For someone who wrote and composed a song on his own, he sure uses 'we' a lot. I think what makes it more weird is the nature of the popularity. While not necessarily obscure otherwise, the success does feel contrived by way of being stuck on popular playlists and letting disengaged playlist shufflers do the work. It seems as if he knows this because he never tweeted asking people to stream the song at all between February and April, but did in May a few days before debuting in the Spotify top 200 in Sweden (it went straight in the top 120, as you do). Since then it's been a barrage of telling everyone to interact with the song in any way that pushes it up the charts, even if it's mostly disengaged people doing most of the legwork. A brief selection of things here http://i.imgur.com/9FIaHTr.png (side note: I really can't understand why anyone would market themselves as 'blue-eyed soul', which literally means a white person making soul music. I suppose it sounds more sophisticated).

 

What I get from the posts is that this is a weird example of trying to be popular, not by force of personality, but by way of artificial popularity. Because in a way, everyone has a trough, where they will not listen to anything unless it's at least a certain level of popular...or it's by their friends, whatever. If you don't think that's true, look at what you're listening to and I'm fairly certain that hundreds, if not thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of other people have listened to it, likely before you even did. Getting "Please Don't Go" up the charts is a way of making it reach people who won't reach themselves. Whether or not it's a success depends on how you look at it. Would you be happy if for every 500,000 people that listen to your song, about 100 pay money for it? Even the most recent winner of The Voice had a better ratio than that.

 

If you're reading this Joel or representatives (I wouldn't put it past them), know that you better have an ace up your sleeves. People don't come to shows to see the guy who tweets market research polls and chart updates for their equally personality-free song. You have an audience, so rather than just trying to slowly bolster it through whatever means necessary, cherish it and let it fluorish on word of mouth. Otherwise a dead-end will hit very soon when all the stats don't line up with demand. I still do not think very highly of the song.

Haha that's me who wrote that. Haven't thought about it in a while. It's kind of interesting to see a snapshot of those numbers, now it's 59 million on YouTube & 360 million on Spotify.

What is the difference between paying for heavy radio play and paying for favourable Spotify playlists?

 

There is no difference IMO - the latter is just a lot more obvious.

 

Because like I said, there is at least an element of choice and a decision making process there. A large chunk of streams being based on placings on a curated playlist isn't quite the same. It's like a chart rules by zombies at the command and direction of Spotify.

29. George Ezra - Shotgun

You're going to pretend that Upset is not climbing A LOT tomorrow, aren't you? :P

No need to pretend, he's down to 28.

Spotify Chart Update [28/05]

 

01 [01] Calvin Harris & Dua Lipa - One Kiss [529,678]

02 [02] Drake - Nice For What [473,379]

03 [03] Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry [369,625]

04 [04] Anne-Marie - 2002 [369,147]

05 [06] Post Malone - Better Now [340,542]

06 [05] Lil Dicky - Freaky Friday (feat. Chris Brown) [329,192]

07 [08] Banx & Ranx - Answerphone (feat. Ella Eyre & Yxng Bane) [286,150]

08 [09] Jess Glynne - I'll Be There [281,214] [NEW PEAK]

09 [07] Drake - God's Plan [275,544]

10 [10] Khalid & Normani - Love Lies [263,266]

 

11 [11] Marshmello & Anne-Marie - FRIENDS

12 [12] M.O - Bad Vibe (feat. Lotto Boyzz & Mr Eazi)

13 [13] George Ezra - Paradise

14 [14] Rudimental - These Days (feat. Jess Glynne, Macklemore & Dan Caplen)

15 [15] EO - German

16 [16] Childish Gambino - This Is America

17 [17] Zedd, Maren Morris & Grey - The Middle

18 [18] Sigala & Paloma Faith - Lullaby

19 [22] Clean Bandit - Solo (feat. Demi Lovato)

20 [19] Post Malone - Psycho (feat. Ty Dolla $ign)

 

21 [20] Shawn Mendes - In My Blood

22 [21] Cardi B - I Like It (feat. Bad Bunny & J Balvin)

23 [23] David Guetta & Sia - Flames

26 [27] Liam Payne & J Balvin - Familiar

27 [30] Selena Gomez - Back To You

28 [26] Drake - I'm Upset

29 [35] George Ezra - Shotgun [NEW PEAK]

30 [28] Shakka - Man Down (feat. AlunaGeorge)

35 [32] David Guetta, Martin Garrix & Brooks - Like I Do

37 [47] Years & Years - If You're Over Me

38 [42] Rita Ora - Girls (feat. Cardi B, Bebe Rexha & Charli XCX)

40 [39] Ramz - Family Tree

41 [37] A$AP Rocky - Praise The Lord (Da Shine) (feat. Skepta)

42 [43] Dennis Lloyd - Nevermind

48 [49] Shawn Mendes - Youth (feat. Khalid)

49 [46] Yxng Bane - Vroom

 

51 [51] Dappy - Oh My (feat. Ay Em)

56 [60] 5 Seconds Of Summer - Youngblood

57 [63] Billie Eilish - lovely (feat. Khalid)

59 [58] Shawn Mendes - Nervous

60 [59] KYLE - Playinwitme (feat. Kehlani)

61 [54] Lil Baby - Yes Indeed (feat. Drake)

62 [67] M-22 - First Time (feat. Medina) [NEW PEAK]

68 [73] Juice WRLD - Lucid Dreams [NEW PEAK]

70 [70] AJ x Deno - London (feat. EO)

74 [78] NOTD - I Wanna Know (feat. Bea Miller)

79 [81] Khalid - OTW (feat. 6LACK & Ty Dolla $ign)

84 [92] Charlie Puth - Done For Me (feat. Kehlani)

85 [88] Swarmz - Lyca

86 [85] Cardi B - Be Careful

94 [96] Not3s - Sit Back Down (feat. Maleek Berry)

100 [NE] 6ix9ine - TATI [NEW PEAK]

 

101 [100] Nicki Minaj - Chun-Li

104 [112] Tyga - Taste (feat. Offset) [NEW PEAK]

110 [109] ZieZie - Fine Girl

113 [190] Florence + The Machine - Hunger

116 [150] Arlissa & Jonas Blue - Hearts Ain't Gonna Lie [NEW PEAK]

118 [148] Loud Luxury - Body (feat. brando) [NEW PEAK]

119 [141] Tiësto & Dzeko - Jackie Chan (feat. Preme & Post Malone)

121 [118] RAYE - Cigarette (feat. Mabel & Stefflon Don)

126 [146] Alice Merton - No Roots [NEW PEAK]

128 [130] Arctic Monkeys - Four Out Of Five

134 [142] BTS - FAKE LOVE

153 [156] Loski - Forrest Gump

156 [167] King Princess - 1950

166 [176] Tom Walker - Leave a Light On

170 [171] Belly Squad - Missing (feat. Headie One)

182 [RE] LSD - Genius (feat. Sia, Diplo & Labrinth)

187 [RE] Sofia Reyes - 1, 2, 3 (feat. Jason Derulo & De La Ghetto)

George Ezra to re-enter above his previous peak with Shotgun? :o

You're going to pretend that Upset is not climbing A LOT tomorrow, aren't you? :P

 

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