Like this one.

 

I want to know what his "four letter warning" was. :unsure:

 

Like this one.

 

I want to know what his "four letter warning" was. :unsure:

 

 

Edit: I've only just noticed the little naked dancing "Robbie". :lol:

 

 

His social media is always so funny. :lol:

What would you guys consider as stadium suitable songs on the record, will we ever hear any of them live :unsure:

 

 

I am thinking 'I Just Want People|To like Me '

 

 

 

 

I think Vol.3 is a good release and it's on the same level as Vol.2.

About 4 songs could be and must be on a straight album.

For me these songs are: Indestructible, IJWPTLM, Gold, The Impossible + the Anthem.

 

But it's not the Vol.1 level. It was absolutely amazing release, solid like ordinary RW LP. Plus I still remember what a surprise this album was. That news on his website came from nowhere

Edited February 22, 20196 yr by Better Man

I think Vol.3 is a good release and it's on the same level as Vol.2.

About 4 songs could be and must be on a straight album.

For me these songs are: Indestructible, IJWPTLM, Gold, The Impossible + the Anthem.

 

But it's not the Vol.1 level. It was absolutely amazing release, solid like ordinary RW LP. Plus I still remember what a surprise this album was. That news on his website came from nowhere

 

 

Agree.

 

I think I'm enjoying 3 more than 2 but 1 is a masterpiece. One of my favourite Robbie albums ever.

 

But 3 is solid and full of great lyrics. Also I think his voice is sounding really good on 3.

 

My only criticism is I'm not so interested in hearing various versions of the same song. I would rather hear fresh songs rather than using up valuable places on an album with re-mixes.

 

As well as those Alex listed I'm enjoying Dirty Rotten, No F**ks and Reality Killed the Video Star.

We would never hear these songs if Robbie had not decided to do the UTR project so i hope he keeps doing it & that we get lots more , I agree we could do without the remixes

 

I do like reading all the lyrics though , Robbie is very good at songwriting, great at getting it down on paper ,

 

I found this old article about Robbie & Guy & the songwriting process which I thought was interesting

 

 

Behind the music: What's the secret to writing a hit !!

 

Guy Chambers co-wrote many chart-topping singles with Robbie Williams. He offers some advice to budding songwriters

Thu 7 Oct 2010 15.00

 

How do you write a hit song !!, Many authors have claimed to know the secret, and software developers have tried to come up with a formula by running thousands of chart-toppers through computer programs. Of course, no one has a definitive answer. But Guy Chambers, a songwriter who has had his fair share of hits, tried to shed some light on the issue at a recent songwriters masterclass at the British Academy of Composers and Authors (BASCA).

 

Chambers, like most successful songwriters, started out by playing in bands. He was a member of World Party before forming the Lemon Trees, but as they struggled to gain notable success he turned his attention to writing for other artists, including Bryan Adams and Cathy Dennis. Yet, he felt depressed. "The business was really wearing me down," says Chambers. But when he was on the verge of giving it all up to become a music teacher, his publisher introduced him to Robbie Williams, and he knew straight away they had something special. "We'd sit down together. He'd sing at me while I was playing, and I'd suggest the next bit, then we'd go through the lines one by one and edit," says Chambers. "He was such a determined pop star that I had to be as ambitious as he was and raise my game."

 

The first song they wrote together was Angels. "I got a migraine from overexcitement," says Chambers. "I knew it was a winner." Robbie had the melody for the verse in his head for a while, and the rest of it came together in half an hour. His co-writer attributes part of the song's success to its economy with words, saying it's easy to remember and sing along to. Quite a few people did, and eventually it was voted best single of the past 25 Years at the Brit awards in 2005.

 

Apart from Angels, some of Chambers's favourite "babies" are Feel and Millennium. "Using the sample of John Barry's James Bond theme from You Only Live Twice was Robbie's idea," he says. This meant they had to give 50% of the publishing/credit to Barry and the theme's lyricist Leslie Bricusse, despite no lyrics from the original being featured in Millennium. Yet Chambers doesn't feel hard done by, citing the case of Bittersweet Symphony, in which the Verve had to give all the publishing to Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, as much worse. "Jagger and Richards didn't even write the bit they'd sampled – it was part of the arrangement of a cover of the Stones' The Last Time."

Initially, Robbie didn't want to sing Rock DJ, as he thought it was cheesy. "We had the hook, chorus and the title, but he hated my melody for the verse," says Chambers. "So, as a compromise, he prayed to Ian Dury and made a rap. 'No head, no backstage passes' – I can't believe he was allowed to say that on the radio."

 

The pair never had any real creative disputes until the end of their partnership. Chambers says Robbie moving to LA was a factor in their "breakup", adding that there's no truth to the rumour Robbie didn't like him writing with others. "We simply didn't write enough (once he did), and so quality went down. You have to write 10 songs to get one good one. There's a high wastage to being a songwriter."

 

What other advice does Chambers have for budding songwriters? "First of all: people will normally say no to you, so get used to that and just move on to the next song." Demos are dead, so only play an A&R person tracks that sound like they can go straight on the radio. Make sure it's loud. Have a good title (one A&R will only listen to a track if he likes the title). If you have trouble getting songs to established artists, find a great budding artist with a good backstory, such as James Blunt's soldier credentials, to be your partner.

 

Chambers also talks about the importance of finding the right key for an artist, using his Tina Turner song as an example: "She always wants to sing in the highest pitch possible, so I had to rerecord each instrument at the same time as we recorded her vocals." The wrong key may also have been the reason we didn't see Robbie fronting Queen, according to Chambers. "The band approached him after he did a cover of We Are the Champions. I said, 'Robbie can't sing in those keys (that Freddie Mercury sang in)'. But Brian May said Queen songs should only be played in their original key."

 

Of course, the Robbie split did not spell the end of Chambers's career. He's written for artists including Beverley Knight and Will Young. He recently wrote with Katie Melua ("a fearless lyricist and great singer") for her latest album, and will soon be writing with Rufus Wainwright ("he's dying to have a hit"). But what he's really excited about is a TV project he's doing with Goldie, in which the pair are mentoring 12 children from "challenging backgrounds" to perform their own music.

 

Some people say that Guy Chambers made Robbie Williams's solo career, others say that Robbie made Guy Chambers. I'd say that they made each other. No books or computer programs can recreate the magic that happens when two perfectly suited songwriters come together. Claiming you have that formula would be to say you have the formula for a perfect marriage. And, as Chambers can testify, even perfect musical marriages hardly ever last.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog...ret-writing-hit

 

 

 

Thanks, Tess, I will read this later.

 

The Impossible

(Robbie Williams, Léo Ferré, Guy Chambers)

 

Gold

(Robbie Williams, Karl Brazil, Benjamin Roy)

 

Dirty Rotten

(Robbie Williams, Karl Brazil, Benjamin Roy)

 

Good People

(Robbie Williams, Vera Hall, Stuart Price, Ruby Pickens Tartt, John A. Lomax, Alan Lomax)

 

Indestructible

(Robbie Williams, Neal Brian Conway, Guy Chambers, Crystal Waters)

 

Indestructible (Project Money Remix)

(Robbie Williams, Neal Brian Conway, Guy Chambers, Crystal Waters)

 

No F**ks

(Robbie Williams, Guy Chambers)

 

Underkill

(Robbie Williams, Scott Ralph, Richard Scott, Kelvin Andrews)

 

Bye Bye

(Robbie Williams, Karl Brazil, Benjamin Roy)

 

Reality Killed The Video Star

(Robbie Williams)

 

I Just Want People To Like Me

(Robbie Williams, Timothy Metcalfe, Flynn Francis)

 

Hunting For You (Acoustic)

(Robbie Williams, Timothy Metcalfe, Flynn Francis)

 

Into The Silence (Ambient)

(Robbie Williams, Timothy Metcalfe, Flynn Francis)

 

The National Anthem Of Robbie (feat. Crouch End Festival Chorus)

(Robbie Williams, Guy Chambers, Edward Elgar)

"Reality Killed The Video Star"

 

You won't get over me it's impossible to do

I'll be on the tv again and on the radio soon

My face will be 30 foot high on the back of that bus

And on my poster they'll spray knob head at the back of Toys'R'Us

 

Inside it hurts cause you know it's true

Only a fool wouldn't fall in love with you

And I wrote this song not to mess with your head

But to get you out of mine

Cause I remember what you says in that hotel room

 

And babe I took these songs and started singing them to people

Some folks hate them and others think I'm evil

But some of them quite like me they've taken me to heart

Radio and television is keeping us apart

 

Reality killed the video star

Cause you're getting married and I'm not involved

Where ever you are

With whoever he is

You'll be in my heart

Spend this life in bliss

 

Remember when I came round and I ruined your mothers carpet

Cause I was always dancing and she didn't have the heart to stop it

Cause she could see you smiling at the boy who came to play

And if that doesn't break your heart then there's nothing I can say

 

I'm sorry baby if I've taken this too far

Look at the tears falling down my guitar

I apologise to him but you know I've always been

A selfish bast*rd

 

My mother always loved you cause she could see what I saw

She always wanted you to be her daughter-in-law

I'm sorry

 

 

https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/robbiewilli...evideostar.html

 

 

 

Who is this about !!

I like this song ..

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Reality Killed The Video Star"

 

 

My mother always loved you cause she could see what I saw

She always wanted you to be her daughter-in-law

I'm sorry

https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/robbiewilli...evideostar.html

Who is this about !!

 

My favourite song from the album and love these lyrics in particular.

 

She must have been a very, very early girlfriend.

My favourite song from the album and love these lyrics in particular.

 

She must have been a very, very early girlfriend.

 

 

They must have been together for quite a while & if Mother was talking 'daughter-in-law '.... would it have been Nicole A, were they not engaged at one stage ... I think Mother liked her :unsure:

They must have been together for quite a while & if Mother was talking 'daughter-in-law '.... would it have been Nicole A, were they not engaged at one stage ... I think Mother liked her :unsure:

 

I think it's one of the girlfriends he had just at the start of TT.

 

Prior to Ayda he was very nostalgic about those times 1991/1992.

 

Do you remember he flew one of his previous girlfriends before he was famous out from Stoke to LA 2005? Trying to recapture something that had gone and was missing from his life?

 

It was reported in the papers at the time and I remember I was very sceptical but then I think he confirmed it was true. Something like that.

 

Then recently he said on Upfront that song was written in 2005. I think it's a part of that period. Just before re-hab and Ayda.

 

 

Edited February 24, 20196 yr by Laura130262

 

This is another good song B-)

 

This is another good song B-)

 

 

 

Best song on the album for me , I love it the more I hear it :wub:

 

 

:music:

I love this version of Into The Silence , beautiful song

 

 

I think the versions of Into The Silence and Hunting for You on UTR3 are both better than on TTC.

 

There's more Robbie and less production. B-)