Why do you hate her so much lol? The album is fantastic, way over 80 on Metacritic. It exactly what an ambitious pop album should be like!

That argument is like me saying "why don't you listen to Captain Beefheart's "Trout Mask Replica"? its widely considered one of the best albums ever, therefore you should enjoy it"

 

 

See my point?

That argument is like me saying "why don't you listen to Captain Beefheart's "Trout Mask Replica"? its widely considered one of the best albums ever, therefore you should enjoy it"

Yeah, I honestly think there's merit to critical reception as a way of spotlighting something you might otherwise not give the time of day to (because 24 hours in a day isn't enough), but stan wars always distort them and only bring them up when they can be used to validate their opinion (see also: chart positions, sales, streams, views, followers, post engagements, everything). Ariana's metacritic score is very impressive sure, but how many people boasting that will also listen to Architects' album from just 3 months ago which has a slightly higher metacritic score. If metal core isn't your scene, too bad, the meta-score dictates it's essential listening. It's all just a symptom of musical opinions being highly subjective and based on emotions & pre-conceptions. All these metrics are the only manner of objective fact that can be used to dispel the haters. There's also a weird misconception that people believe telling someone their opinion is wrong, and directing them to the 'right' opinion will ever sway them. I have never, ever seen someone say they got into a band because someone told them that the band they like sucks and that they should listen to this band instead. Doing something like that just makes people revel in going against you.

 

(Note: I like Ariana and wish her the best, I haven't quite taken to the album but I'll inevitably give it much more time soon as I expect it to flood my national chart next week.)

Ariana's metacritic score is very impressive sure, but how many people boasting that will also listen to Architects' album from just 3 months ago which has a slightly higher metacritic score.

I really like both albums :o

I am happy for Ariana but disappointed by the material. Weakest album so far for me. Time will tell if the streams hold up.

I just used that score to highlight that it's usually generally lame music that gets trashed here (Ed Sheeran etc) when the success is questioned as I think most people think that Ariana puts out great and creative stuff. But quality is always subjective.

Edited February 9, 20196 yr by SKOB

I just used that score to highlight that it's usually generally lame music that gets trashed here (Ed Sheeran etc) when the success is questioned as I think most people think that Ariana puts out great and creative stuff. But quality is always subjective.

 

A metacritic score is just someones opinion if someone reviewing it liles that genre there is bound to be bias

141 NEW

Handmade Heaven by MARINA

 

:) :) :)

Lets talk about this some more

dunno if i'm late to the party but why did marina drop the diamonds..?

A metacritic score is just someones opinion if someone reviewing it liles that genre there is bound to be bias

 

But if the genre is pop and 12 people who review it like pop music and give it 4-5/5, isn't it a good or even great pop album? I don't see why I couldn't refer to that then in discussion. Obviously metal fans, for instance, might think differently, but I also know a metal fan that was pleasantly surprised (but he checks out new music quite a lot in general).

Edited February 10, 20196 yr by SKOB

I just used that score to highlight that it's usually generally lame music that gets trashed here (Ed Sheeran etc) when the success is questioned as I think most people think that Ariana puts out great and creative stuff. But quality is always subjective.

 

Great creative stuff, are we talking about the same Ariana? Sure she can release a decent pop song now and again but she isnt exactly pushing the envelope with creativity.

Great creative stuff, are we talking about the same Ariana? Sure she can release a decent pop song now and again but she isnt exactly pushing the envelope with creativity.

 

Well if people think Ariana's music is creative they need to expand their musical horizon.

Ooh we love a patronising Polly!

 

I think she is creative as far as current pop music goes. I haven't heard songs like 'Break Up With Your Girlfriend...' and 'Ghostin' by other artists.

I do think Ari is a lot more talented than the new album suggests. A lot of the songs are a bit samey. But maybe they take a few plays to click? I thought TUN the song was a major comedown at first from the previous 3 singles but I really love it now.

All Ari tracks still top 20, TUN back up to 3 ❤️

Yes, Ari still has all of the top four, with three more in the top ten.

 

And after the news broke yesterday morning, Advice gets a new peak at #21.

Edited February 10, 20196 yr by coi

Spotify Daily Chart Update (09/02)

01 [01] Ariana Grande – 7 rings 824,649

02 [02] Ariana Grande – break up with your girlfriend, I'm bored 763,068

03 [06] Ariana Grande – thank u, next 468,588

04 [03] Ariana Grande – needy 409,397

05 [10] Post Malone – Wow. 403,284

06 [05] Ariana Grande – bloodline 401,939

07 [04] Ariana Grande – NASA 394,483

08 [13] Ava Max – Sweet but Psycho 383,799

09 [08] Ariana Grande – bad idea 380,349

10 [14] Mabel – Don't Call Me Up 371,967

 

11 [07] Ariana Grande – fake smile

12 [16] Sam Smith & Normani – Dancing With A Stranger

13 [09] Ariana Grande – ghostin

14 [18] Lewis Capaldi – Someone You Loved

15 [19] Calvin Harris & Rag'n'Bone Man – Giant

16 [12] Ariana Grande – imagine

17 [17] Billie Eilish – bury a friend

18 [11] Ariana Grande – make up

19 [15] Ariana Grande – in my head

20 [20] NSG – Options (feat. Tion Wayne)

 

21 [73] Cadet & Deno Driz – Advice [*NEW PEAK*]

22 [21] Post Malone & Swae Lee – Sunflower (Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse)

23 [23] Marshmello – Happier (feat. Bastille)

24 [22] Mark Ronson – Nothing Breaks Like a Heart (feat. Miley Cyrus)

25 [24] Halsey – Without Me

26 [25] Meek Mill – Going Bad (feat. Drake)

27 [27] Travis Scott – SICKO MODE

28 [26] J. Cole – MIDDLE CHILD

29 [29] Jax Jones & Years & Years – Play

30 [32] Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper – Shallow

 

31 [41] George Ezra – Shotgun

32 [34] Billie Eilish – when the party's over

33 [33] Kodak Black – ZEZE (feat. Travis Scott & Offset)

34 [38] Ellie Goulding & Diplo – Close To Me (feat. Swae Lee)

35 [40] benny blanco – Eastside (with Halsey & Khalid)

36 [37] 21 Savage – a lot

37 [39] Panic! At The Disco – High Hopes

38 [44] Dua Lipa – Swan Song (From the Motion Picture "Alita: Battle Angel")

39 [31] AJ Tracey - Psych Out!

40 [30] Khalid – Talk

 

41 [48] Chris Brown – Undecided

43 [42] Khalid – Saturday Nights

46 [54] Lauv & Troye Sivan – I'm so tired…

49 [28] AJ Tracey – Country Star

50 [58] Flipp Dinero – Leave Me Alone

52 [190] Da Beatfreakz – Pumpy (feat. AJ x Deno, Swarmz & Cadet) [*NEW PEAK*]

54 [60] Kehlani – Nights Like This (feat. Ty Dolla $ign)

57 [75] Blueface – Thotiana

58 [59] Gesaffelstein – Lost in the Fire (feat. The Weeknd)

60 [71] Russ splash – Gun Lean {remix at #197, #33 combined}

62 [62] A Boogie Wit da Hoodie – Look Back At It

63 [67] A Boogie Wit da Hoodie – Swervin (feat. 6ix9ine)

64 [63] Headie One – 18HUNNA (feat. Dave)

66 [35] AJ Tracey – Wifey Riddim 3

72 [117] Marshmello – Alone

84 [86] Swarmz – Bally (feat. Tion Wayne)

85 [92] Lewis Capaldi – Grace

91 [111] Westlife – Hello My Love

 

101 [70] The Chainsmokers & 5 Seconds of Summer – Who Do You Love

105 [130] Picture This – One Drink [*NEW PEAK*]

112 [110] CamelPhat & Cristoph – Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)

116 [107] Catfish and the Bottlemen – Longshot

122 [128] Alec Benjamin – Let Me Down Slowly

129 [121] Yungen – Comfortable (feat. Dappy)

130 [137] Sub Focus & Dimension – Desire

131 [NE] Cadet – Closure [*NEW PEAK*]

145 [NE] Cadet – Trendy (feat. Ay Em & Tion Wayne) [*NEW PEAK*]

153 [152] Lewis Capaldi – Bruises

160 [166] Tom Walker – Just You and I

173 [181] Wiley, Sean Paul & Stefflon Don – Boasty (feat. Idris Elba)

178 [150] The Chainsmokers – Hope (feat. Winona Oak)

181 [RE] FISHER – Losing It

182 [RE] Galantis – Bones (feat. OneRepublic)

190 [154] Fredo – All I Ever Wanted (feat. Dave)

194 [RE] Hozier – Almost (Sweet Music)

 

OUT [141] MARINA – Handmade Heaven

OUT [176] David Guetta, Brooks & Loote – Better When You're Gone

OUT [182] Mustard & Migos – Pure Water

OUT [184] Dermot Kennedy – Lost

OUT [189] Logic – Keanu Reeves

OUT [191] Bring Me The Horizon – medicine

OUT [200] Fredo – Survival of the Fittest

OUT [OUT] Seeb & Bastille – Grip

OUT [OUT] ZieZie – Sensei

OUT [OUT] JAY1 – Becky

OUT [OUT] NOTD & Felix Jaehn – So Close (feat. Captain Cuts & Georgia Ku)

 

Ariana Grande - thank u, next

1 7 rings

2 break up with your girlfriend, I'm bored

3 thank u, next

4 needy

6 bloodline

7 NASA

9 bad idea

11 fake smile

13 ghostin

16 imagine

18 make up

19 in my head

 

61 no tears left to cry

89 breathin

108 God is a woman

158 One Last Time

168 Into You

 

AJ Tracey - AJ Tracey

39 Psych Out!

49 Country Star

51 Butterflies (feat. Not3s)

66 Wifey Riddim 3

67 Nothing But Net (feat. Giggs)

79 Ladbroke Grove

97 Plan B

103 Double C's

117 Rina

134 Doing It

144 Jackpot

191 Necklace (feat. Jay Critch)

192 Triple S

so at this rate Ariana will have easily the top 2 in singles come Friday

Ooh we love a patronising Polly!

 

I think she is creative as far as current pop music goes. I haven't heard songs like 'Break Up With Your Girlfriend...' and 'Ghostin' by other artists.

 

Break up is basically Needed Me and Bitch better have my money spliced together. Maybe you haven't heard Anti.

I actually think Rihanna could sue :D