You have to remember that her foreign fans could order through her website too. So why wouldn't they have ordered the bundles with cassettes etc in the same ratio as they did they vinyl?

 

I'm fairly certain she sold more WW than in the UK. She charted in a few places WW and they would have been based on sales in stores, iTunes and streaming, as BMG is a UK label so wouldn't have counted their over seas sales to each country bar the UK.

LOL, the album probably hasn't even sold 15k in the UK yet... 50k worldwide without any more promotion? Riiiight.

 

It'll be lucky to reach 20k in the UK.

You have to remember that her foreign fans could order through her website too. So why wouldn't they have ordered the bundles with cassettes etc in the same ratio as they did they vinyl?

 

I'm fairly certain she sold more WW than in the UK. She charted in a few places WW and they would have been based on sales in stores, iTunes and streaming, as BMG is a UK label so wouldn't have counted their over seas sales to each country bar the UK.

 

 

It charted:

#92 Australia

#88 Ireland

#55 Spain

 

Let's be honest that's a few hundred sales (if that) not 20k+

 

With time for this album I've taken 4 songs I love out of it:

 

1. Baby please don't stop

2. I wish I could have loved you more

3. Teardrops

4. I only want to be with you (with Will Young)

 

The rest are ok (Emotion is a nice cover) or naff :lol: (2 become 1 I actually hate, such a contrast to the original).

It charted:

#92 Australia

#88 Ireland

#55 Spain

 

Let's be honest that's a few hundred sales (if that) not 20k+

 

Exactly. I see 5k max internationally in total. I think people are waaaay overestimating things here.

With time for this album I've taken 4 songs I love out of it:

 

1. Baby please don't stop

2. I wish I could have loved you more

3. Teardrops

4. I only want to be with you (with Will Young)

 

The rest are ok (Emotion is a nice cover) or naff :lol: (2 become 1 I actually hate, such a contrast to the original).

 

I still would've liked some Don't Call Me Baby club mixes to be honest. A properly retro Almighty mix would've been trashtastic.

Some My Happy Place info:

 

Monday 15th April midweeks:

2,439 CDs (Amazon sales missing from Sunday)

610 Downloads

704 Cassettes

402 Vinyl

72 Streaming (Amazon/Apple/Spotify missing from Sunday)

 

Thursday 18th April midweeks:

3,958 CDs (Amazon sales missing from Wednesday)

742 Downloads

736 Cassettes

425 Vinyl

156 Streaming (Amazon missing from Tuesday & Wednesday | Apple/Spotify missing from Wednesday)

 

In 3 days, the album added:

+1,519 CDs

+132 Downloads

+32 Cassettes

+23 Vinyl

+84 Streaming

 

Unfortunately I never found out the final sales on Friday for it.

 

What we do know is the signed version of the vinyl was supposedly a 1,000 copy run. Then an unsigned version of an unknown quantity was up for preorder. So we know there were over 1,000 copies. I assume that she ended up selling 430-ish vinyl in the UK that week, and that’s a mixed of signed and unsigned, although I assume most of the copies would have been signed purchased. It potentially could mean that over 600 copies of the vinyl were sent to fans outside of the UK.

 

I assume 750-ish cassettes were sold in the UK in week 1. We don’t know how many cassettes were printed overall, although the blue version did sell out. It might be safe to assume that a lot of the cassette purchases were bought within the vinyl/cd/cassette bundle. There’s potential for 1,100+ cassettes to have been sold abroad, if we got with the 40% UK / 60% outside of the UK divide that the vinyl seemingly had.

 

Both vinyl and cassette were official store exclusive, whereas the CD was more widely available... so it’s hard to predict how many fans outside of the UK would have ordered a copy. I doubt the 40/60 split will be the case of the CDs, I reckon the UK would have had a higher percentage of CD sales due to supermarket & HMV availability.

 

I do feel that 30,000 outside of the UK is an overestimate. I could feasibly imagine somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000 copies shipping abroad though. I would imagine that overall worldwide sales could stand at 25,000 to 30,000.

But any CDs sold through her website, like vinyls (which we know an absolute minimum of 600 copies were sold first week WW) and cassettes were essentially lost sales. As in the were sold but BMG doesn't report sales to each individual country bar the UK.

 

When all is said and done 50k WW sold/shipped is not unreasonable. It was stocked in record stores WW. Has evidently plenty of stock still in UK HMVs being in the 2 for £10 offer.

 

From following denden through the release, all the international fans ordersd through her website as the vinyls and cassettes were exclusive to her store. BMG dont care if a bundle of 2 cassettes and a CD counts towards icelands chart, or Canadas chart it is just another 3 sales.

I just can't see the worldwide numbers adding up to be that much! :(

 

Sales in most worldwide charts are pitifully low and Emma either charted very low or didn't chart at all!

 

Indeed there will have been some effectively "lost sales" (which I touched upon in my previous post re: vinyl / cassette / CD sales that were bought via her official store from fans outside of the UK), but I don't think these sales are likely to be more than a few thousand. Maybe over 5,000 but probably not close to 10,000.

 

The last UK sales figure we had was 9,913 on 17th May and I estimated by 21st June that it would have grown to between 11,000 to 12,000 sales.

 

The album has had no presence in the physicals chart in the past 10 weeks, and it's currently taking less than than 250 physicals sold to be Top 100 in the physical chart, and less than 300 pure sales to be Top 100 in the sales chart. I think the most generous we could be about the past 10 weeks is that it's maybe sold between 1,000 to 2,000 copies (in the UK) at a push.

 

I would currently predict total sales in the 13,000 to 14,000 region for My Happy Place currently (in the UK), I would be pleasantly surprised if it's more. Hopefully we'll find out soon with AJ's sales update.

 

I don't really see it feasibly being possible that an additional 36,000+ copies were either sold or shipped outside of the UK. We'll never find out either way to be able to say for sure, but personally I don't see this being realistic! If anything I think my 25,000 to 30,000 WW estimate is probably highly generous, now that I've thought more deeply about it. Maybe 20,000+!

20k worldwide shipping is the maximum number .

 

30k - 50k ! You are insane !!!

 

There is now way

Not Emma doing a gig for xmas to prove my predictions right. I said 50k shipped WW when all is said and done.

I don't see the correlation between her announcing this one-off gig and what it's supposedly sold worldwide? :thinking:

I don't see the correlation between her announcing this one-off gig and what it's supposedly sold worldwide? :thinking:

 

:lol: I love Sammy but yup me neither!

Same! At best, some of the publicity around the show might get her some extra sales from HMV or Amazon (both have promotions going on, could work!) but 50k WW is quiiiiite the reach ^_^

I don't see the correlation between her announcing this one-off gig and what it's supposedly sold worldwide? :thinking:

 

Especially as this was likely booked months ago, probably when they announced the album. :lol:

Bunton will flog the album more over the next few months, it will be on sale at the show (like it was at the Wembley gigs that were again essentially lost sales as they wont have been recorded for the OCC). Her record label would be dumb to not try and take advantage in some way too, roll on limited edition Christmas cassette.

It's not going to make it sell ~30k more copies though...

It's not going to make it sell ~30k more copies though...

 

*~35k.

*~35k.

The point remains :lol:

WW guys, WW.