People should not be assessing the whole song, we’re only claiming the chorus is Steps-esque!

 

Exactly this!! It makes it even worse because the chorus is so jarring and so at odds with the verses!! Imagine Steps with the whole song, maybe not, although they performed all of it and belnded the lot oops, but imagine them with the chorus, 100%.

3 pages about the chorus of Judas, love you all! :heart:

Edited August 7, 20195 yr by SKOB

Thanks for actually providing receipts for once x

 

But nah. I feel 'Judas' chorus is a lot more polished and less Steps friendly than people think. Them performing it on tour was cute and so many artists do that with songs but doesn't necessarily mean the songs they blend them in with are necessarily "*insert artist here*-lite cheese"

 

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The chorus to Judas is SO poppy, no denying that. But I feel that's what makes it stick out. Especially after the verses! (And I still can't hear Steps releasing/recording a song like this)

 

They were comfortable enough to blend it with one of their cheesy 90s songs!

 

The verses are edgy pop and thrn it descends into a Stop/ Tragedy/ Better the Devil/ etc style chorus!!

 

Oh really? Then why do Spices sing the covers they were gonna release on the third album - Sisters, Celebration, and We Are Family? As they are on brand! Steps aren't gonna suddenly cover Metallica. They know Steps and they hear it in Judas, so they are just reclaiming their sound!

 

Look at Madonna and Born This Way. She could hear her brand:

 

 

(But ignore her bitter saltiness.)

 

She also blended her song with an identical GaGa one. That's what Steps were channelling with theirs too. They know their brand. They just couldn't be AS obviously shady as Madonna, and honestly probably felt pleased that GaGa carried on their sound. They will have liked the homage. It also gives them a new song and a stupid dance to do on tour.

I adore Steps and I actually did enjoy that Better the Devil You Know/Judas mash-up during the tour! As a Gaga fan who loves Judas, I appreciated hearing it. I think they did a nice enough job.

 

I found an article from October 2011 where Lee from Steps mentions Judas: https://www.digitalspy.com/music/a344000/la...n-a-steps-song/

 

Lee Latchford-Evans added: "H said GaGa's 'Judas' could have been a Steps song - if you take away the imagery and just listen to the chorus."

 

Scott-Lee continued: "Also 'Edge of Glory' could have been one. We're not saying we influenced GaGa, but I think that's where we would see ourselves musically if we released a song today."

 

Fans definitely mentioned Judas in relation to Steps earlier than then, on Popjustice for example, so I think Steps/their management noticed the suggestion and evidently ran with it. Apparently they talk about Judas in one of their documentaries, so I'll have to try and find a clip!

 

I can certainly see why some people would think the Judas chorus sounds poppy in a Steps way, although Steps didn't spring to mind for me when I first heard Judas, I have to admit. So on that basis I've voted no.

 

Personally I think it's a great compliment if a song is compared to Steps choruses, in my opinion they have some of the catchiest pop songs ever! I think a lot of their songs have a depth to them that people may overlook, because they don't listen past the uptempo/happy/"cheesy" production. Some of their lyrics are really sad/tragic (proper definition of that word)! They're fantastic at happy/sad pop songs. They followed ABBA'S musical blueprint to great success.

I do wonder why people don't think TEOG isn't Steps lite cheese because that is as much, if not even more!

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Lee Latchford-Evans added: "H said GaGa's 'Judas' could have been a Steps song - if you take away the imagery and just listen to the chorus."

 

Scott-Lee continued: "Also 'Edge of Glory' could have been one. We're not saying we influenced GaGa, but I think that's where we would see ourselves musically if we released a song today."

 

 

 

Fans definitely mentioned Judas in relation to Steps earlier than then, on Popjustice for example, so I think Steps/their management noticed the suggestion and evidently ran with it. Apparently they talk about Judas in one of their documentaries, so I'll have to try and find a clip!

 

Oh my GOD!!! So everyone who voted no after all this evidence just has their heads in the sand!! Steps KNOW Steps. They hear their brand. Judas could so so soooo easily be a Steps song, he's right!!! Steps-lite CHEESE. One of her worst ever songs.

Are Steps being legit suggesting they could ever produce something which would come close to the quality of The Edge of Glory? How embarrassing :mellow:

Steps-lite CHEESE. One of her worst ever songs.

 

No x

Steps spilling the TEA

 

They influenced GaGa

Jay always bringing the RECEIPTS!

Steps spilling the TEA

 

They influenced GaGa

 

You can stop trolling now

Not trolling! Everyone who voted no should now feel embarrassed aboot jumpin on the fanwagon!

Not trolling! Everyone who voted no should now feel embarrassed aboot jumpin on the fanwagon!

 

You suggesting that Steps influenced Lady Gaga is embarrassing hen x

Jay always bringing the RECEIPTS!

Omg, this!!!

 

Are Steps being legit suggesting they could ever produce something which would come close to the quality of The Edge of Glory? How embarrassing :mellow:

Who knows if the others agreed with Lisa, but nevertheless she was entitled to her opinion that The Edge of Glory is evocative of a sound Steps could have done themselves. In essence I see where she may have been coming from. Edge has an upbeat/euphoric production, combined with a female power vocal. That was often Steps’ remit... Claire can certainly belt it out. I can imagine her doing the song justice in a live setting!

 

Perceived quality is obviously subjective, but as far as I’m concerned Steps have released a large number of high quality songs, and their very best efforts aren’t exactly a million miles away from some of Gaga’s best. I don’t expect people to agree and I’m not looking for people to scorn me for saying so, that’s just my personal feeling.

 

If we apply some context, when Lisa said that, Gaga had only been a huge successful name for a couple of years, she was incredibly fresh and current - but she hadn’t quite cemented herself as being an all-time great that early on. Judas and The Edge of Glory were extremely new songs. So it might not have seemed quite as outlandish back in 2011 for Lisa to dare say that Steps could tackle those songs, that were chart hits, not yet classics. I’d say Edge is now something of a 10s classic and it’s by somebody who could now easily be described of the biggest stars of all time, so maybe it seems funnier in the here and now that Lisa said what she said~

but as far as I’m concerned Steps have released a large number of high quality songs, and their very best efforts aren’t exactly a million miles away from some of Gaga’s best.

 

Yeah we'll agree to disagree :lol: